Boomer this morning...

[munchmemory]

Almost 1:30.  Well......

[southtown24th]

just make it happen today.  we need something to rally around and get behind here...we can't take this sh*t anymore.

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

So if you keep repeating this, do you hope one day Vernon Gholston will magically disappear from existence?  The entire argument of baselessly crediting Mangini for the work of others is dependent on dismissing him being here for the drafting of one of the NFL's all-time biggest busts.

The work of who? If you think Tannenbaum should get the lions share of the credit for the roster construction for the title runs that's fine. But between the solid FA signings and their drafts, it's tough to ignore Manginis at least slight influence. Gholston was a horrible pick in a horrible all around first round.

[flgreen]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Because the NFL doesn't look kindly on obvious circumvention of the Rooney Rule.

So you talk to Stump for 2 minutes, no more Rooney Rule problem

[slimjasi]

If they were firing him today, why wouldn't they have done it first thing this morning?

 

I suspect we will be starting at this guy for another month

[munchmemory]

Just now, slimjasi said:

If they were firing him today, why wouldn't they have done it first thing this morning?

 

I suspect we will be starting at this guy for another month

I'll deal with that as long as Bowles and Mcc go out the door together on Black Monday/Black Sunday Night.

[joewilly12]

Just now, munchmemory said:

I'll deal with that as long as Bowles and Mcc go out the door together on Black Monday/Black Sunday Night.

Same here. 

[nyjunc]

10 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

If you're arguing Tannenbaum was probably better than Idzik and the current GM, I wont argue back. But Mangini was here while the core was buil(to say he wasnt involved in the draft isnt true as he ran the pre draft interviews) for the 09/10 teams and the roster drastically fell apart by 2012 because the Jets drafted terribly. That trend has continued till the present.

I didn't say he wasn't involved, I said he wasn't the GM and he had zero success without tannenbaum while tannenbaum had a lot of success without him.

The Jets went for it from 2008-2011, they came close but didn't finish. Tannenbaum knew he had to retool the roster post 2012 but his first losing season in 5 years resulted in his firing which set the franchise back and we have never recovered

[FidelioJet]

3 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Couldn’t win?  He’s won a super bowl, been to three NFCGs and his regular season record is 50 wins above .500

and 3-8 without Rodgers

[MaxAF]

3 hours ago, RVAJet815 said:

Do it. Now. I frankly don't care if the beer guy coaches the rest of the way. 

My vote for HC is that guy that fills the footballs up with air before the games. I heard he’s a precision ball filler. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

I didn't say he wasn't involved, I said he wasn't the GM and he had zero success without tannenbaum while tannenbaum had a lot of success without him.

The Jets went for it from 2008-2011, they came close but didn't finish. Tannenbaum knew he had to retool the roster post 2012 but his first losing season in 5 years resulted in his firing which set the franchise back and we have never recovered

Tannenbaum towards the end was making nutso personnel decisions e.g. Plaxico, Tebow along with giving Holmes and Sanchez contracts they werent worth. His time was up and they were never getting back. He's done a below average job in Miami as well.

[jeremy2020]

14 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Almost 1:30.  Well......

yeah, I think the dream is dead boys

[TheGreenGhost]

3 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

the right time was the bye week but if it happens, at least we can start to believe that bowles will not be back next year

Would not put it past the Jets to fire him this year and re-hire him in the offseason. 

"We saw Todd was having a difficult time, so we gave him a few months off to relax and gather himself.  We're proud to announce he's back to lead this organization."

[southtown24th]

1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said:

yeah, I think the dream is dead boys

how?

[Reynolds1029]

3 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

honestly i think a lot of it is that he thought he would be winning games with mccown instead of darnold.  he's completely baffled why running crowell into the line 3 times and then punting doesn't win.

Most accurate statement on this forum ???

[Jetsbb]

Tweets coming in from a Bowles conference call they aren't firng him. Esiason talked out of his ass

[southtown24th]

2 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

Tweets coming in from a Bowles conference call they aren't firng him. Esiason talked out of his ass

what?

[southtown24th]

WTF

[Jetsbb]

3 minutes ago, southtown24th said:

what?

 

[varjet]

1 hour ago, Barkus said:

Make Dennison HC/OC. Either demote Bates back to qb coach or fire him too. Rodgers should go too obviously, maybe Green can be DC? Can't fire all the coaches now I guess. Although the local high school staff could do a better job than this sad bunch. 

This is where Bowles showed that this job was too much for him-his Coordinators.  

[JoJoTownsell1]

33 minutes ago, choon328 said:

I get this argument but then you'd also be saying that you wouldn't hire Belichick. 

Belichick has consistently won a division every year with Brady. Mccarthy struggles to make the playoffs most years with Rodgers. Quite a big difference in coaching records. 

No one is saying you should never hire a HC that only succeeded with a HOF QB, just that you EXPECT them to win and when they repeatedly fail to do so and their own time fires that coach mid-season it should tell you something. 

How many great HCs that won super bowls were canned mid-season? 

[nyjunc]

19 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Tannenbaum towards the end was making nutso personnel decisions e.g. Plaxico, Tebow along with giving Holmes and Sanchez contracts they werent worth. His time was up and they were never getting back. He's done a below average job in Miami as well.

He was but we have to remember what was going on in the league as far as the labor deal. Remember there were special rules for final 4/final 8 teams that handcuffed them.  

He made mistakes and helped ruin Sanchez but he still did a lot more good than bad and the franchise hasn't recovered since his firing.

Miami made one playoff app from 2002-2015 and that was because Tom brady was hurt, they made one in the few years mike has been there.  I wouldn't say he's done a great job but he's done better than we have since he left and he's done better than Mangini has without him.

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

Browns fired their head coach a month ago and played better afterwards/

Most relevant example to mention is the pre-Jets Bowles HC experience with the Dolphins. 

Sitting at 4-9 the Dolphins fired Sparano with 3 games left, promoted Bowles as interim HC, and they went 2-1 the rest of the way, beating the 5-win Bills and the late-2011-meltdown Jets.

It happens when teams get a sudden change they crave. Don't know if that serves us well at this point or not.

[nyjunc]

1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Belichick has consistently won a division every year with Brady. Mccarthy struggles to make the playoffs most years with Rodgers. Quite a big difference in coaching records. 

No one is saying you should never hire a HC that only succeeded with a HOF QB, just that you EXPECT them to win and when they repeatedly fail to do so and their own time fires that coach mid-season it should tell you something. 

How many great HCs that won super bowls were canned mid-season? 

Rodgers is great but he's not Brady and McCarthy made the playoffs every year except Rodgers' first year starting, last year when Rodgers was hurt and this year.

[TheGreenGhost]

Screw Boomer for providing some false hope on this Monday. 

Get the FIRE BOOMER signs ready!

[The Crusher]

Just now, Sperm Edwards said:

Most relevant example to mention is the pre-Jets Bowles HC experience with the Dolphins. 

Sitting at 4-9 the Dolphins fired Sparano with 3 games left, promoted Bowles as interim HC, and they went 2-1 the rest of the way, beating the 5-win Bills and the late-2011-meltdown Jets.

It happens when teams get a sudden change they crave. Don't know if that serves us well at this point or not.

Whatever move makes it more likely that we fire Bowles and Macc is the right move. Firing Bowels today to feed the angry masses is just NY Jets half measures. Same thing.

[joewilly12]

20 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

Tweets coming in from a Bowles conference call they aren't firng him. Esiason talked out of his ass

[BigO]

4 hours ago, Stark said:

I don’t think it would change much but I would like to see if anything did change by firing Bowles. Would tell a lot for the next coach/regime. 

I just can’t stand seeing Bowles on the sidelines anymore. I was done with him a year ago and it’s only gotten humorous to me that he’s still here. Freaking joke. 

I was done after losing to the Bills that cost us making the playoffs in his 1st year. That was telling. It’s been a downward spiral since then. 

[southtown24th]

this franchise is a DISASTER.

[BigO]

4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Let Kevin Greene coach the last four games. Throw the fans a bone.

Ruff Ruff

[BigO]

20 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Whatever move makes it more likely that we fire Bowles and Macc is the right move. Firing Bowels today to feed the angry masses is just NY Jets half measures. Same thing.

At this point I’d take a statement by CJ saying the DC and OC have mononucleosis and will not return for the rest of the season.

[Gen X Jet]

Leave him in there.  Why would we want a shot in the arm at this point?

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said:

Of course it's the number of decisions that would need to be made that is the reason they are doing everything possible to avoid making a midseason move.  I mean, who do you really think among the folks running this team would actually make all of those decisions (or, in reality, just more than one of those)?

This is a good point. They’d have to sub out this kind of Machiavellian sh*t. Maybe bring in Isiah Thomas as a consultant?

[varjet]

Even for those who disdain Conspiracy Theories would have a field day with this one.  My theories are that:

• The Johnsons have told Bowles that he gets to save face and finish the year, but Darnold stays on the bench.
• The Johnsons have told the media that there is going to be a complete housecleaning, but out of respect for the people to not cover it.
• The relevant social equality forces have told the Jets that if they fire Bowles and keep Mac, it would not be a good look for them.  Mac has not be any better at his job than Bowles has.  Nathan Shepherd is not helping him.  Who did we pass over for him?

3	72	New York Jets	Nathan Shepherd	DT	Fort Hays State	MIAA (D-II)
	3	73	Miami Dolphins	Jerome Baker	LB	Ohio State	Big Ten
	3	74	Washington Redskins	Geron Christian	OT	Louisville	ACC	from San Francisco [R3 - 5]
	3	75	Kansas City Chiefs	Derrick Nnadi	DT	Florida State	ACC	from Oakland via Baltimore [R3 - 6]
	3	76	Pittsburgh Steelers	Mason Rudolph	QB	Oklahoma State	Big 12	from Green Bay via Seattle [R3 - 7]
	3	77	Cincinnati Bengals	Sam Hubbard	DE	Ohio State	Big Ten
	3	78	Cincinnati Bengals	Malik Jefferson	LB	Texas	Big 12	from Washington via Kansas City [R3 - 8]
	3	79	Seattle Seahawks	Rasheem Green	DE	USC	Pac-12	from Oakland via Arizona and Pittsburgh [R3 - 9]
	3	80	Houston Texans	Martinas Rankin	OT	Mississippi State	SEC	from Seattle [R3 - 10]
	3	81	Dallas Cowboys	Michael Gallup	WR	Colorado State	MW
	3	82	Detroit Lions	Tracy Walker	S	Louisiana	Sun Belt
	3	83	Baltimore Ravens	Orlando Brown	OT	Oklahoma	Big 12
	3	84	Los Angeles Chargers	Justin Jones	DT	NC State	ACC
	3	85	Carolina Panthers	Rashaan Gaulden	CB	Tennessee	SEC	from Buffalo [R3 - 11]

[Philc1]

And you thought Boomer sucked when he had a jersey shore version of Howard Stern as his sidekick