GreenWhite Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I feel bad for the guy at this point. Christopher Johnson reminds me of Candy in Of Mice and Men https://youtu.be/XRGOhLyLS9Q Your browser does not support the audio element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The Jets should do right by Todd Bowles and fire him now By Mike Vaccaro December 3, 2018 | 6:11pm Modal Trigger Todd BowlesBill Kostroun Todd Bowles deserves better than this. OK, Jets fans, look: Before you grab the pitchforks and the torches and ask if I’ve lost my mind, this has nothing to do with his ultimate fate. Bowles will be fired, and he deserves to be fired. His team remains a self-sabotaging mess and every week we hear the same laments and the same excuses. Bowles will lose his job, and he will lose it on merit. There is no debating that. But he deserves better than what he’s going to get across the next four weeks. Bowles has been brutal as the Jets head coach, but he has been nothing but dignified in the job. He has suffered and bled in the name of building something here; the fact he’s failed at it takes none of that away. So why put him through the next four weeks? Why put his team through this? Working a losing locker room is never a fun thing, but the Jets’ room has become increasingly excruciating as this season has progressed because Bowles’ players — to their credit and to his — fall over themselves trying to take the burden of blunders off his shoulders and lug it onto theirs. The Jets lack many things. Accountability is not one of them. Now, we can be cynical about this and say, with a laugh, “Well, they’ve had a lot of practice at it, they should be good at it” and, well, that is true. It is also true that this is the flip side of the very thing for which David Fizdale has been praised with the Knicks — in this column and elsewhere. Fizdale’s greatest strength, as we have discussed, is that he clearly and thoroughly connects with his players. In turn, they play hard for him. To date, they have willingly fulfilled their roles for him. And we have seen the great affection the Knicks have for him. Now, in Year 1 of a massive rebuild, when every victory is treated as a parade-worthy accomplishment, a coach can survive — thrive even — on those splendid relationships. In Year 4, however, after a stretch of 45 games in which his team is 13-32, that isn’t nearly enough. The evidence that his players really do like Bowles, and like playing for him, is overwhelmed by the fact that their affinity doesn’t travel. It doesn’t translate. It may kill the Jets to their souls that they haven’t performed for Bowles, but the numbers, and the results, don’t lie. And so up and down the room goes the question, every week, in some form or fashion: “Are the coaches doing enough to help you guys win?” And up and down, to a man, comes the answer: “It’s on us, not them.” Kudos for their loyalty, but it’s not going to change anything. Bowles is going to be fired as soon as the season is over. So what is the value in letting him twist in the wind this way? Especially since the Packers — a team with a lot better track record than the Jets over the past, oh, quarter-century or so — had no problem firing Mike McCarthy after their latest flameout at home Sunday against woeful Arizona. The Packers, at least, still had a ghost of a chance of making the playoffs until the Cardinals celebrated their third win of the year on the Lambeau Field turf and forced them to give up that ghost. The instant the Packers went from trouble to nowhere, McCarthy was gone. Why string this out? His time had ended, his course was run. Move on and move out. A popular theory is that there’s nobody competent enough on Bowles’ staff to take over the interim duties. And look, if it’s clear that this isn’t the Parcells-Belichick-Coughlin Giants staff of the early-’90s, there has to be someone who can give it a go for a month. The Packers picked Joe Philbin, who suggested on HBO’s “Hard Knocks” he was a goofball lightweight before he ever coached a game in Miami and proved he was a goofball lightweight. McCarthy was spared a month of misery. And, yes, he is an accomplished coach with a Super Bowl on his résumé, far more successful than Bowles. But is that a good enough reason for the Jets to let Bowles twist in the wind — and force his players to stand up and take his shots week after week for the next four weeks? Bowles deserves better than that. Jeez, everyone deserves better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Todd Blowes should do right by Jets fans and step down now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 There are no assistants good enough to step in. I think that's part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Hire an Uber HC or find a HC on Amazon who cares anyone can do a better job than TB I will be the HC of this team and you will see a better quality product. No excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 If bowles gets canned now, mac has to start the search for a qb. But what if they plan on firing mac as well? Do GMs get fired during the season like coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, jetscrazey said: There are no assistants good enough to step in. I think that's part of the problem. Asst head coach Mike Caldwell is interim head coach Dline coach Robert Nunn coordinates the defense. He's been in the league 19 years I hope he can call 4 games lol Fire bates and let Dennison run the offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 If I got to watch this crap, so does Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I post an article follow the rules and my post gets bumped for a link to a YouTube video nothing to do with the article from the NY Post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: I post an article follow the rules and my post gets bumped for a link to a YouTube video? LOOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afjetsfan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 My thought is wait till black Monday and fire both Macc and Bowles. Firing Bowles now might mean we are stuck with Macc. He sucks just as much as Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: LOOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afjetsfan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Todd Blowes should do right by Jets fans and step down now... Why? Keeping him on actually helps the team get a higher draft pick. He is actually doing this team a favor by staying on. Let's be realistic, after the season, the whole coaching team is gone. Many of the players are gone. The goal now should be to try and get the highest draft pick. We need weapons that Sam can throw to and an O-line that can keep him upright. Make no mistake, Bowles needs to go, but Macc needs to go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, afjetsfan said: Why? Keeping him on actually helps the team get a higher draft pick. He is actually doing this team a favor by staying on. Let's be realistic, after the season, the whole coaching team is gone. Many of the players are gone. The goal now should be to try and get the highest draft pick. We need weapons and a ******* O-line that can protect Sam If they were leaving McCown in for the remainder... I would agree with you. But the plan seems to be to reinsert Darnold this week. Thus... get Blowes and his gutless brand of ball, and his "white flag" 4th quarter punting away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 If your dog got run over by a car and is laying in the street half dead and dying for sure you don’t keep him alive for another day so all the kids can come and say goodbye. You do the right thing - shoot him in the head with your 38 and tell the kids he ran away. In other words - put Bowles out of his misery now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: There are no assistants good enough to step in. I think that's part of the problem. And who's fault would that be? Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Coaching staff gets fired and we win 4 straight. Oh s***! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afjetsfan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, RoadFan said: If they were leaving McCown in for the remainder... I would agree with you. But the plan seems to be to reinsert Darnold this week. Thus... get Blowes and his gutless brand of ball, and his "white flag" 4th quarter punting away from him. True, but you learn the most from the bad bosses, or in this case the bad coaches, that you have. Sam is learning a great deal by being on this dysfunctional team (he is learning what wrong looks like). It's easy to be on a winning team, but to lose like the Jets do will help Darnold build a resiliency that will help him down the road. A couple of years from now he will be able to draw even greater strength from having gone through this, assuming the Johnson's hire a competent replacement for both Bowles and Macc. If of course the Johnson's don't hire competent replacements, disregard everything I said, because at that point Sam is screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: If bowles gets canned now, mac has to start the search for a qb. But what if they plan on firing mac as well? Do GMs get fired during the season like coaches? Why? You think Sam will quit football out of loyalty to his coach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Nixhead said: If your dog got run over by a car and is laying in the street half dead and dying for sure you don’t keep him alive for another day so all the kids can come and say goodbye. You do the right thing - shoot him in the head with your 38 and tell the kids he ran away. In other words - put Bowles out of his misery now! I have no idea what the hell your trying to say but I’m happy we dont live in same neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I have no idea what the hell your trying to say but I’m happy we dont live in same neighborhood. Lol. Maybe we do? Do u have a dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, RoadFan said: If they were leaving McCown in for the remainder... I would agree with you. But the plan seems to be to reinsert Darnold this week. Thus... get Blowes and his gutless brand of ball, and his "white flag" 4th quarter punting away from him. Where are you getting that? Bowles has refused to say he will start. It is clear he does not want Darnold to start. A decent performance by Darnold seals Bowles fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think I agree with the sentiment that keeping Bowles on the payroll is bad news for Mike Maccagnan because there is no way Chris Johnson could pull Todd into an office and fire him today without knowing what he was going to do with Macc. The classy thing to do would be to take Todd to the side, tell him you’re going to make the change, and give him a choice between leaving now or at the end of the year. But, how do you do that and justify keeping Maccagnan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Nixhead said: Lol. Maybe we do? Do u have a dog? Not anymore. He had the sniffles so I offed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mark78 said: Coaching staff gets fired and we win 4 straight. Oh s***! This is exactly what I am afraid of. Todd Bowles is the perfect coach to ensure that we lose the remaining 4 games and get a top pick, maybe even first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This is exactly what I am afraid of. Todd Bowles is the perfect coach to ensure that we lose the remaining 4 games and get a top pick, maybe even first overall. Someone else made a good point in another thread. They said three out of the passed 4 years we drafted in the top 10 2 just outside of top 5 and 1 at 3. These high picks did not equate to wins because the draft is a crapshoot and often the guy picked number 1 overall doesn't become the best playerSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Not anymore. He had the sniffles so I offed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Good move bro. Mine peed in the house so I taught Mutley a lesson he will never forget. Neither will my wife and kids so now I’m divorced. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Someone else made a good point in another thread. They said three out of the passed 4 years we drafted in the top 10 2 just outside of top 5 and 1 at 3. These high picks did not equate to wins because the draft is a crapshoot and often the guy picked number 1 overall doesn't become the best player Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app When you have a top 3 pick chances are you are going to find a very good player. Last year we got Darnold with the 3rd pick. There is a big difference between picking top 3 and picking 6 to 10. It also means picking at the top of every other round also. It matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 When you have a top 3 pick chances are you are going to find a very good player. Last year we got Darnold with the 3rd pick. There is a big difference between picking top 3 and picking 6 to 10. It also means picking at the top of every other round also. It matters. Than how do teams who constantly draft at the back end of the draft manage to continue to be successful and vice versa?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Than how do teams who constantly draft at the back end of the draft manage to continue to be successful and vice versa? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Because they have better owners, better management, better scouts and better coaching. They are able to overcome picking at the back end. The Jets are challenged in every one of those categories and It's still better for them to be picking top 3 to have a chance to field a better roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Nixhead said: If your dog got run over by a car and is laying in the street half dead and dying for sure you don’t keep him alive for another day so all the kids can come and say goodbye. You do the right thing - shoot him in the head with your 38 and tell the kids he ran away. In other words - put Bowles out of his misery now! Mike Vick approves this post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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