JiF Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 And he's on top of my wish list to help build around Sam Darnold. He's the next big play, crazy dynamic, give the ball and watch him go WR in the NFL. Here are some highlight reels that prove I'm an expert scout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Why do I like a Deebo? Besides his name and the thought of yelling Go Deebo, Go Deebo over and over again? I like him because he is a homerun threat no matter how he gets the ball. He's electric. 1 touch game changer. Strengths; elite athlete, break away speed, joystick type moves with ball in hand but also physical and will lower his shoulder, one of the best YAC guys in the country. He runs very crips routes, foot work is incredible, routinely gains separation even vs. press coverage, he knows how to get a CB on tilt. Great hands, goes and gets the ball at the high point, can make circus catches and jaw dropping plays. Weakness; injuries riddle his career in college, though he did play this entire season unscaved, it might knock him into the 2nd round. He might not be the highest rated WR on the board, a few might go ahead of him but IMO he'll be the best of the bunch. I could see Harry and Brown (who I liked a lot too) go early and before Deebo but Deebo ending up with best career. Think Evans, Watkins, Beckham Jr. I'm not saying he's OBJ but I think he posses similar game changing big play qualities. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I'll do a video analysis on Deebo later. P.S., my current favorite WR in the class is D.K. Metcalf. I think he has a little Al Toon to his game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, maury77 said: I'll do a video analysis on Deebo later. P.S., my current favorite WR in the class is D.K. Metcalf. I think he has a little Al Toon to his game. Kelvin Harmon is mine. Reminds me alot of Mike Thomas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 15 hours ago, King P said: Kelvin Harmon is mine. Reminds me alot of Mike Thomas Not a huge fan of Harmon. He played soft against Clemson and had some bad drops. Not saying his career is defined by that, but in his big spots he hasn’t produced well IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 hours ago, maury77 said: I'll do a video analysis on Deebo later. P.S., my current favorite WR in the class is D.K. Metcalf. I think he has a little Al Toon to his game. I like D.K as well. Can’t wait to see what he look likes during the pre draft process and make sure his neck injury is fully healed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 18 hours ago, JiF said: Why do I like a Deebo? Besides his name and the thought of yelling Go Deebo, Go Deebo over and over again? I like him because he is a homerun threat no matter how he gets the ball. He's electric. 1 touch game changer. Strengths; elite athlete, break away speed, joystick type moves with ball in hand but also physical and will lower his shoulder, one of the best YAC guys in the country. He runs very crips routes, foot work is incredible, routinely gains separation even vs. press coverage, he knows how to get a CB on tilt. Great hands, goes and gets the ball at the high point, can make circus catches and jaw dropping plays. Weakness; injuries riddle his career in college, though he did play this entire season unscaved, it might knock him into the 2nd round. He might not be the highest rated WR on the board, a few might go ahead of him but IMO he'll be the best of the bunch. I could see Harry and Brown (who I liked a lot too) go early and before Deebo but Deebo ending up with best career. Think Evans, Watkins, Beckham Jr. I'm not saying he's OBJ but I think he posses similar game changing big play qualities. I like Deebo, not sure he is as dynamic speed wise. For a sub 6’ receiver he is built great though, he’s like 210 pounds. He’ll probably go middle to end of the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Not a huge fan of Harmon. He played soft against Clemson and had some bad drops. Not saying his career is defined by that, but in his big spots he hasn’t produced well IMO. I thought for sure you'd give me a stamp of approval after what Deebo did to Clemson this year/career. He always showed up vs. you guys. This year? He looked like the best player on the field that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I like Deebo, not sure he is as dynamic speed wise. For a sub 6’ receiver he is built great though, he’s like 210 pounds. He’ll probably go middle to end of the 2nd round. There you are, lol. I keep reading that about his speed, which is bizarre. He runs away from people with ease. Maybe one of the situations where his game speed is better than how he clocks. ie Boldin type guy? because he looks like a flash when he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, JiF said: I thought for sure you'd give me a stamp of approval after what Deebo did to Clemson this year/career. He always showed up vs. you guys. This year? He looked like the best player on the field that day. I like him, don’t get me wrong. I just think he is more of a 4.5 speed guy, not a 4.38 or 4.40 guy. He’ll be productive in the NFL, kinda like a Stephon Diggs. Similar skill sets IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I like him, don’t get me wrong. I just think he is more of a 4.5 speed guy, not a 4.38 or 4.40 guy. He’ll be productive in the NFL, kinda like a Stephon Diggs. Similar skill sets IMO. That's a solid comparison. I keep making the Boldin comparison. Maybe even a little Enunwa too. Similar physical type runners with ball in hands who can take a screen or a slat the distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 hours ago, JiF said: That's a solid comparison. I keep making the Boldin comparison. Maybe even a little Enunwa too. Similar physical type runners with ball in hands who can take a screen or a slat the distance. Deebo is a little heavier than Diggs, but their skill sets are similar. My ideal draft would include getting two WRs, a Deebo Samuels and a Hakeem Butler would be nice. One big outside huge catch radius guy and a versatile slot/outside guy who can take a screen pass 80 yards for a TD. Those guys would compliment each other so well IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Deebo is a little heavier than Diggs, but their skill sets are similar. My ideal draft would include getting two WRs, a Deebo Samuels and a Hakeem Butler would be nice. One big outside huge catch radius guy and a versatile slot/outside guy who can take a screw pass 80 yards for a TD. Those guys would compliment each other so well IMO. Love it. Agreed 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Great post. This is the guy I want as well. Somehow he's a day 2 player? Runs away from guys, quickness, weight is more important than height as a receiver. Darnold's a get the ball in the hands of playmakers guy - here's a playmaker. Home run. Would love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Can I see a face lift in the WR core where we get Deebo Samuel AND DK Metcalf? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Can I see a face lift in the WR core where we get Deebo Samuel AND DK Metcalf? Maybe. I don’t think Deebo makes it to the 3rd round though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This kid to me has Devin Smith written all over him.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 hours ago, bealeb319 said: This kid to me has Devin Smith written all over him. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app I don't see the comparison at all. I think Samuel is a much better route runner, has better hands, and is more dangerous when the ball is in his hands after the catch. Smith was more of a one trick pony, Samuel, in my opinion, is a much more complete WR prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Sounds like we really need to find a way to get back into the second round this year. How do you draftniks think we should go about doing it? I don’t think trading a guy like Leo will net us a 2nd round pick, and I’m not sure we can get another 1 and a 2 by trading back from the 5ish spot this year because of the quality of the QB class. Am I wrong here? I’d love it if I am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I don't see the comparison at all. I think Samuel is a much better route runner, has better hands, and is more dangerous when the ball is in his hands after the catch. Smith was more of a one trick pony, Samuel, in my opinion, is a much more complete WR prospect.Smith coming out of college was known thought to be a track runner who had a decent set of hands tracked the ball well and ran decent routes that is why he was taken early in the second round.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: Smith coming out of college was known thought to be a track runner who had a decent set of hands tracked the ball well and ran decent routes that is why he was taken early in the second round. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app So how does that compare to a guy who's not a track runner, is more of a YAC guy, who has a great set of hands and runs incredible routes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Where's this thread been hiding. I'm unsettled on Deebo. High floor... but that ceiling. how tall is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, bealeb319 said: Smith coming out of college was known thought to be a track runner who had a decent set of hands tracked the ball well and ran decent routes that is why he was taken early in the second round. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Smith didn’t run anything well other than 9 routes. He was soft and had average at best hands. Deebo is vastly different than Smith. Other than both play football, they couldn’t be more different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Smith didn’t run anything well other than 9 routes. He was soft and had a weave at best hands. Deebo is vastly different than Smith. Other than both play football, they couldn’t be more different. Guess we will seeSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Where's this thread been hiding. I'm unsettled on Deebo. High floor... but that ceiling. how tall is it? The comparison I keep going to is Anquan Boldin. I know that's lofty but I think they're very similar. Diggs was good comparison too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 always got an enunwa vibe from this dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 His injury history is worrisome. A team as woeful as the Jets shouldn’t take that kind of risk with a high draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Yo JN draftnik's! My boy Deebo is straight ballin at the Senior Bowl. Crazy buzz about him right now. Check the moves in this article. That 2nd video, ridiculous. He's going to be really hard to cover. Could you imagine him breaking off people at line in green and white? What??? I really would hate to see those bastads up north get him. My gawd, in that system? https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/Article/South-Carolina-football-Gamecocks-Deebo-Samuel-video-Reeses-Senior-Bowl--128175942/ WATCH: Deebo blows by defenders at Senior Bowl practice ByJOHN DEL BIANCO Jan 22, 3:25 PM 5 (Photo: Ryan Bethea, 247Sports) Deebo Samuel is already showing out at the Reese's Senior Bowl week. After measuring at 5-11 and weighing 216 pounds on Tuesday morning, South Carolina's All-SEC and All-American all-purpose standout took to the practice field and blew by a defender in one-on-ones for a touchdown catch and then showed off his foot speed prior to another catch. Billy Marshall@BillyM_91 Deebo vs Rock Ya Sin. Oh man. Deebo is a baller 1,066 3:12 PM - Jan 22, 2019 315 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy Jake@SeedsofJake Deebo Samuel’s foot speed is disgusting... 2,918 3:19 PM - Jan 22, 2019 677 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy In 23 kickoff returns in 2018, Samuel averaged 24.8 yards per kick, including a 90-yard touchdown return against Ole Miss. He is the program's all-time leader in kick return average at 29.0 yards per return, and holds the school record and is tied for the SEC record with four career kickoff returns for touchdowns. Samuel was Carolina's leading receiver with 882 yards and his 11 receiving touchdowns ranked second in the conference. His 1,478 all-purpose yards, highlighted by those receiving numbers and 570 yards in kick returns, ranked second in the SEC trailing Texas A&M running back Trayveon Williams' 1802. All stats and rankings are prior to bowl stats. 5COMMENTS Since the conclusion of the 2018 regular season Samuel has earned first team All-SEC recognition as a wide receiver from Pro Football Focus and SEC coaches gave him first team honors as both an all-purpose performer and return specialist and was a second team selection at wide receiver, and the Associated Press named him to the All-SEC first team as an all-purpose player and the second team as a wide receiver. The Football Writers Association of America named him a second team All-American as a kick returner and the AFCA Coaches named him a first team All-American as an all-purpose performer. Prior to arriving in Mobile, Ala. for Senior Bowl week, Samuel had been training for NFL Draft preparation at Exos Training HQ in Phoenix, Ariz. He won't be the only player with a Gamecocks helmet on the field as left tackle Dennis Daley is participating as well. The Senior Bowl will be held at Ladd Peebles Stadium in Mobile, Ala. Kickoff is scheduled for 2:30 and the game will be televised on NFL Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JiF Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 12/5/2018 at 8:28 AM, sec101row23 said: I like him, don’t get me wrong. I just think he is more of a 4.5 speed guy, not a 4.38 or 4.40 guy. He’ll be productive in the NFL, kinda like a Stephon Diggs. Similar skill sets IMO. Top 5 Fastest Players Today for South: Isaiah Johnson (DB) - 21.7 Gary Jennings (WR) - 21.5 Deebo Samuel (WR) - 21.1 Travis Fulgham (WR) - 20.5 Rock Ya-Sin (DB) - 20.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 DEEEEEEBOOOO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 JiF, how do the Jets land him? Can't see him being there at the top of round 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, derp said: JiF, how do the Jets land him? Can't see him being there at the top of round 3. Yeah, agreed. If they can work a trade down scenario and acquire some 2nd rounds picks or they can trade up into the 2nd round which I think he'd more than likely be worth the value to move up. The likelihood is slim to none because we never draft the guy I want, well that not's true...I wanted Dbrick, Mo Wilk and Coples (shame) but other than that we never do...but a boy can dream!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F00tballGuy69 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Looks good from what little I've seen from the senior bowl practices so far. In 1 on 1's, you could tell his footwork was a step ahead of the other receivers there. He went up against Ya-Sin, regarded by some as the best CB in Mobile this week, and Deebo beat him 2/3 times by my count. He did drop one in 11 on 11's yesterday, but all in all looked good. If I had to compare him to a current player, he reminds me a lot of Golden Tate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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