RobR Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: So they are adding a 9th QB to the SB? How are they supposed to get reps when none of them will even see a quarter of play? Unless someone dropped out I'm not getting it because we normally we see three QB's per squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: He’s an awkward looking QB. Watched him a few times this year to see An1thony Johnson. Not sure he belongs here to be honest. Should have stayed in school as well, can’t see him being drafted before the middle of the 6th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, RobR said: So they are adding a 9th QB to the SB? How are they supposed to get reps when none of them will even see a quarter of play? Unless someone dropped out I'm not getting it because we normally we see three QB's per squad. Agreed. It even splits up the practice reps too much. Plus, it’s not like he’s Kyler Murray, Jackson isn’t even a legit prospect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Agreed. It even splits up the practice reps too much. Plus, it’s not like he’s Kyler Murray, Jackson isn’t even a legit prospect IMO. I never question what the Senior Bowl does regarding personnel because they have always done a fantastic job over the years. This one is a complete head scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, RobR said: I never question what the Senior Bowl does regarding personnel because they have always done a fantastic job over the years. This one is a complete head scratcher. Agreed. This years group as a whole is exceptional. Can’t wait to see the complete roster breakdowns so we can see who is going up against each other in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: He’s an awkward looking QB. Watched him a few times this year to see An1thony Johnson. Not sure he belongs here to be honest. Should have stayed in school as well, can’t see him being drafted before the middle of the 6th round. So that was Jim's big announcement?.... Figured it was going to be a QB. I'm sorry, but T. Jackson is B-version of Paxton Lynch.... and, well, we all know how that worked out. Me, more so than anyone on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 That's a great TE group btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Practices start tomorrow at 1pm on NFLN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 8:15 PM, sec101row23 said: He’s an awkward looking QB. Watched him a few times this year to see An1thony Johnson. Not sure he belongs here to be honest. Should have stayed in school as well, can’t see him being drafted before the middle of the 6th round. That's what they said about Hack, too.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Practices start tomorrow at 1pm on NFLN. Already got the DVR fired up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Practices start tomorrow at 1pm on NFLN. Must see TV, the practices tell you more than the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, KRL said: Must see TV, the practices tell you more than the game Absolutely. Wish they could do this with more prospects, maybe expand the Shrine Game to include some underclassmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, RobR said: Already got the DVR fired up. Rob, turning your attention to a hornet by the name of Tytus Howard. OT with (IMO) LT projection... the way Andre D is heating up, my hopes for 3rd round LT are dwindling... I think i brought him up to you before- but youtube footage is limited to full games. Be interested to hear your thoughts on him in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Rob, turning your attention to a hornet by the name of Tytus Howard. OT with (IMO) LT projection... the way Andre D is heating up, my hopes for 3rd round LT are dwindling... I think i brought him up to you before- but youtube footage is limited to full games. Be interested to hear your thoughts on him in practice. I’d add Garrett Bradbury C from N.C. State as well. He looked like a nice 4th or 5th round guy and all of a sudden Ledyard throws him in the middle of the first round in his latest mock...Lol. We’ll see how this plays out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: I’d add Garrett Bradbury C from N.C. State as well. He looked like a nice 4th or 5th round guy and all of a sudden Ledyard throws him in the middle of the first round in his latest mock...Lol. We’ll see how this plays out though. He also has Harmon as the 15th best player in the draft. I actually like/enjoy the diversity and blatant neglect of popular opinion that site brings, but it comes with flip side of also blatantly ignoring other players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Paradis said: He also has Harmon as the 15th best player in the draft. I actually like/enjoy the diversity and blatant neglect of popular opinion that site brings, but it comes with flip side of also blatantly ignoring other players True, I like that they try to be ahead of the curve on projecting these guys though, I like diving in beyond what is the “consensus”. It counteracts the volumes of chalk mocks and discussing the same 5 guys at the top of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: True, I like that they try to be ahead of the curve on projecting these guys though, I like diving in beyond what is the “consensus”. It counteracts the volumes of chalk mocks and discussing the same 5 guys at the top of the draft. That's why I have Ed Oliver number one on my board and now I see him being mocked in the teens. Just wait until he blows up the combine and starts getting mocked in the top three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, RobR said: That's why I have Ed Oliver number one on my board and now I see him being mocked in the teens. Just wait until he blows up the combine and starts getting mocked in the top three. You have certainly been consistent -- you have been driving the Oliver train for 3 seasons. No need to get off of it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Paradis said: Rob, turning your attention to a hornet by the name of Tytus Howard. OT with (IMO) LT projection... the way Andre D is heating up, my hopes for 3rd round LT are dwindling... I think i brought him up to you before- but youtube footage is limited to full games. Be interested to hear your thoughts on him in practice. What is with your love for Alabama St players? Anyway I'll be checking out all of the lineman like usual. Measurements are coming out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F00tballGuy69 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Even though we don't have a need, there are some intriguing guys on that quarterback list. I like Finley. He strikes me as the type of guy the Pats will target. Several O-Lineman I'll be keeping an eye on: Dieter, Benszhawel(?), McGary, Risner, Erik Mccoy, E Jenkins Foster Moreau (TE, LSU) is another guy I like. Excellent blocker. He would be a good replacement for Tomlinson with a bit more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 8 hours ago, F00tballGuy69 said: Even though we don't have a need, there are some intriguing guys on that quarterback list. I like Finley. He strikes me as the type of guy the Pats will target. Several O-Lineman I'll be keeping an eye on: Dieter, Benszhawel(?), McGary, Risner, Erik Mccoy, E Jenkins Foster Moreau (TE, LSU) is another guy I like. Excellent blocker. He would be a good replacement for Tomlinson with a bit more upside. Dieter is an interesting guy. Played all over the line at Wisconsin - has had seasons as starting center, left tackle and guard. Probably more suited to an interior OL as a pro; but it would sure be nice to have a guy with that kind of versatility on our OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paradis Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Some interesting results this year from the weigh ins... Watched some clips of lotta linemen, both sides of the ball, showing up and measurements are way off from listings.. Wes Hill measured in a 6' 209... which looks about right and not the 6'2 that was floating around. I think his is a lot more compact that ppl realized. Dillard check Dexter check Anthony J check Doss 6'2, not 6'3 which i'm fine with. Wasn't a jump ball only artist Howard beast Wesley check Hurd 6'4 225.... FCK YEA Ferguson 6'4 256 check Josh Oliver, 6'4 245 beautiful. Samuel 5'11 217... looks about right, though i bet plays at closer 220-225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 @sec101row23 Since your a Clemson guy, what do you think Hunter Renfrow's ceiling is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 12/7/2018 at 11:35 PM, RobR said: For the first time in decades I could care less about the QB's. The Senior Bowl is the greatest tool for evaluating senior prospects....bar none. Off the top of my head I can't remember one player that struggled during the senior bowl that turned into anything worthwhile. The Senior Bowl practices are the time to either sink or swim IMO. I get that this is true and all, but it probably means more if you actually get to watch it. I read a ton about these guys, as opposed to getting to watch everybody, and there are plenty where I read that that "struggle" and "shine" at the same senior bowl. Gabe Jackson comes to mind, but I think I remember the phenomena as far back as Faneca. It means less with raw guys that flash - for instance, Marcus Davenport had a nice enough rookie season and I read that he supposedly struggled plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I get that this is true and all, but it probably means more if you actually get to watch it. I read a ton about these guys, as opposed to getting to watch everybody, and there are plenty where I read that that "struggle" and "shine" at the same senior bowl. Gabe Jackson comes to mind, but I think I remember the phenomena as far back as Faneca. It means less with raw guys that flash - for instance, Marcus Davenport had a nice enough rookie season and I read that he supposedly struggled plenty. I think of guys like TJ Clemmings who at the time was considered a first round pick. He had a lousy SB, fell to the fourth round and last I checked has just been floating around the league. Also iirc Davenport did pretty well at the SB last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, RobR said: I think of guys like TJ Clemmings who at the time was considered a first round pick. He had a lousy SB, fell to the fourth round and last I checked has just been floating around the league. Also iirc Davenport did pretty well at the SB last year. That's my point. You recall Davenport doing pretty well at the senior bowl, but I read that he struggled. When you rely on press reports, instead of actually watching, (which I tend to be forced to do) it is very uneven. Too much of the play-by-play tweets instantly downplaying or propping guys up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 YESSSSSSSSSS Ok, i've established how i feel about him, so i won't get carried away. Pauline's already all over him as well. I didn't see it, but i guess he stone walled M. Sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Anthony Johnson is turning heads early as well. Maybe after the SB he'll recapture the day 2 grade that seemed to inexplicably disappear in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinemanCT Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Sweat looks good on one on one drills and that OG Powers from Okla. also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinemanCT Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, LinemanCT said: Sweat looks good on one on one drills and that OG Powers from Okla. also Oklahoma OG Dru Samia not Powers... my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, KRL said: @sec101row23 Since your a Clemson guy, what do you think Hunter Renfrow's ceiling is? Not directed at me but did you see that his hands measured 7 3/4". I don't ever recall seeing someone with hands that small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Finally getting some time to look through these practices and the first person that jumps out is Deebo Samuel. He's smooth, quick and can gain separation. @Paradis So far I've watched two bad reps from your guy Howard but I like him. QB>TE>LT and now he's huge and measured great. I need to watch some more of him during the week but he looks like someone a good staff could develop. He needs coaching but the feet are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, RobR said: Finally getting some time to look through these practices and the first person that jumps out is Deebo Samuel. He's smooth, quick and can gain separation. @Paradis So far I've watched two bad reps from your guy Howard but I like him. QB>TE>LT and now he's huge and measured great. I need to watch some more of him during the week but he looks like someone a good staff could develop. He needs coaching but the feet are there. Deebo Samuel is very nasty!!! Stocky build but fast with smooth routes and good "late" hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 First impression is the OLine class may not be top heavy but it appears deep. Should be able to get starter type talent in rounds 2-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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