nico002 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Don’t let the completion percentage fool you. This is the one thing that really has jumped out at me this year. It not just good- the guy is one of the most accurate throwers Ive seen, especially on the move. three throws jump out at me from an accuracy standpoint: 1) pass to the right sideline to Herndon- he put it where only he could catch with with the defender all over the receiver 2) scramble TD pass 3) deep pass to Robby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, nico002 said: Don’t let the completion percentage fool you. This is the one thing that really has jumped out at me this year. It not just good- the guy is one of the most accurate throwers Ive seen, especially on the move. three throws jump out at me from an accuracy standpoint: 1) pass to the right sideline to Herndon- he put it where only he could catch with with the defender all over the receiver 2) scramble TD pass 3) deep pass to Robby Agreed and not in a weak arm Pennington way (no I’m not hating, I love Chad). But Sammy can let it rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 So when is @HelenOfTroy coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: So when is @HelenOfTroy coming back? Who cares. She left for a childish reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, nico002 said: Don’t let the completion percentage fool you. This is the one thing that really has jumped out at me this year. It not just good- the guy is one of the most accurate throwers Ive seen, especially on the move. three throws jump out at me from an accuracy standpoint: 1) pass to the right sideline to Herndon- he put it where only he could catch with with the defender all over the receiver 2) scramble TD pass 3) deep pass to Robby The pass to Herndon against the Jaguars was amazing. Pass to Herndon against the colts. His ball placment looks sharp and effortless sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Who cares. She left for a childish reason. I care. I miss seeing her USC flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Sam gets more accurate the more under duress he is. That td pass yesterday I won’t shut up about it it was phenomenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Darnold definitely has excellent accuracy when he's on the move. He needs to work on his decision making and learn how to eat the ball or throw it away instead of trying to force it into coverage. Once he figures that out, look out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I care. I miss seeing her USC flag. She’ll be back eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, nico002 said: Don’t let the completion percentage fool you. You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Darnold is legit. If he gets a high end coordinator and a couple of more weapons he could make that Jared Goff type jump heading into year 2. And I am not comparing him to Goff, i think he is significantly more talented than Goff who is merely a product of a great system with great weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Darnold is legit. If he gets a high end coordinator and a couple of more weapons he could make that Jared Goff type jump heading into year 2. And I am not comparing him to Goff, i think he is significantly more talented than Goff who is merely a product of a great system with great weapons. I can confidently say that Goff is no system quarterback. McVay ran the same system in Washington and the results were no as explosive for Cousins. Having said that, I do believe Darnold has elite talent and potential, superior to Goff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... I’m guilty lol this is more than a fair point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Warfish said: You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... lol, seriously... ‘elite’ = “from what I’ve seen” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... No it’s not bro. Is Fitzpatrick a top 10 QB? Cause he’s 10th in passer rating. Is Tannehill the 6th best QB? Cause he’s 6th in rating. Eli is having the best statistical year of his career. I guess Dak is a more accurate thrower than Brady, since he’s 10 spots higher than him in terms of comp percentage. Do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, nico002 said: Blah blah blah apples.....Darnold is so dreamy.....blah blah blah oranges...... If you want to live the dream, live the dream my friend. But why stop at "elite", why not just go full bore and call it "Hall of Fame level accuracy". If you're going to go all in, go all in. 12 TD vs. 15 INT's, 55.9%, that's like so ELITE man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Warfish said: If you want to live the dream, live the dream my friend. Go take a shower, it’s Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Warfish said: You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... okay. darnold has 4 of the jets 4 wins this season and 7 of the losses. it is possible that he gets to 7 wins. that's not bad for a rookie qb on a weak team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: I can confidently say that Goff is no system quarterback. McVay ran the same system in Washington and the results were no as explosive for Cousins. Having said that, I do believe Darnold has elite talent and potential, superior to Goff. I must have missed that year Mcvay had Todd Gurley, Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp to go along with a really good offensive line. You put Goff on this Jets team and he is a train wreck. Same with Trubisky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 In the category, "compared to the qb history of this franchise", then yes. Elite. ?♂️? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Time will tell. Considering everything that has not gone well with the offense this year, and McCown coming in for a couple weeks to solidify the fact that our offense’s failures are not the Jets rookie QB, Darnold needs time like every other QB in this league. Some start slow, some look great their first year. Think about when RGIII came into the league, Kaep, Carr even Dak. Many thought they would be the next Montana or Brady. Others with a not so great rookie season like Payton Manning panned out pretty well. I think years 3 and 4 is the make or break years as to whether a QB is truly going to be a career standout or just another flash in the pan. Progress is the key. Just getting better as a whole. He’s got good bounce back which I like. He doesn’t seem to rattle during heavy pressure, recovers well after int’s, extends plays. All pluses in my book. He could be the One. Tighten up the O-line, give him a couple more WR’s with good talent and mix it up with a solid ground game and he might be great. If he had an Amari Cooper, or an Antonio Brown to throw to it could hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, rangerous said: okay. darnold has 4 of the jets 4 wins this season and 7 of the losses. it is possible that he gets to 7 wins. Is it? 7 minutes ago, rangerous said: that's not bad for a rookie qb on a weak team. Are the only two options "elite" and "bad"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I must have missed that year Mcvay had Todd Gurley, Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp to go along with a really good offensive line. You put Goff on this Jets team and he is a train wreck. Same with Trubisky. Yeah I agree our team is trash and will make anyone look bad. But Goff in my opinion is not a system QB. He enhances that system, and not any QB could go in there and produce what he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Is it? Are the only two options "elite" and "bad"? elite and bad? imo he's better than ELIte right now. give him a line and get the receivers open and we'll see some good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I don't think he has elite accuracy yet. Needs to be more consistent for it to be elite status. However he's shown flashes and potential of elite accuracy which I fully believe he'll grow into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, nico002 said: Don’t let the completion percentage fool you. This is the one thing that really has jumped out at me this year. It not just good- the guy is one of the most accurate throwers Ive seen, especially on the move. three throws jump out at me from an accuracy standpoint: 1) pass to the right sideline to Herndon- he put it where only he could catch with with the defender all over the receiver 2) scramble TD pass 3) deep pass to Robby Did you go take a pee during the pass he threw directly to the defender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, nico002 said: Go take a shower, it’s Monday. If I'm Sam Darnold, I have a restraining order against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Did you go take a pee during the pass he threw directly to the defender? DIRECTLY to the defender. Accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, Warfish said: You are what your record says you are. "Elite", lol. It's almost like some Jets Fans see one or two good plays, and suddenly it's like we're reading "Teen Beat" the way folks gush with unquestioning enthusiastic homerism...... You have no idea how badly I want to change his screename to Homer Samson . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: DIRECTLY to the defender. Accurate. Hard to argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Can we pump the brakes on the "elite" crap and the "turnover machine" crap. Let this guy develop over the next three years and then we can come to a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, rangerous said: elite and bad? imo he's better than ELIte right now. give him a line and get the receivers open and we'll see some good things. Hang on, I want to get an answer, do you REALLY think it's possible Sam Darnold leads us via his skill to wins the next three games and we finish 7-9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffhand Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Hang on, I want to get an answer, do you REALLY think it's possible Sam Darnold leads us via his skill to wins the next three games and we finish 7-9? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I think elite takes consistency and we've havent seen consistency yet from Sam. His ball placement is excellent though. This offense is garbage and it seems like anytime he's throwing the ball downfield, it's a high level of difficulty throw ie; 3rd and long to the sideline on a corner or out route. It's like they never give him some easy read/safe throws. The only thing I think that is elite with Sam is his pocket presence. It's natural and very few can escape the way he can and then deliver the ball on point. That TD to Robby, that's the mark of a very special player. You cant teach that and very few QB's on this planet can make that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, Grandy said: I don't think he has elite accuracy yet. Needs to be more consistent for it to be elite status. However he's shown flashes and potential of elite accuracy which I fully believe he'll grow into. Agreed his accuracy is still inconsistent but man does he flash with some incredible throws at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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