Sarge4Tide Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2019 Jets Roster Needs HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS Wide Receiver (High Starting Caliber) Center / Guard (High Starting Caliber) Edge Rusher / OLB (High Starting Caliber) Cornerback (Starting Caliber) MEDIUM PRIORITY NEEDS Offensive Tackle (Starting Caliber/Solid Back Up Caliber) Defensive Tackle ( AT LEAST Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Tight End (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Wide Receiver (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) LOW PRIORITY NEEDS QB (Veteran Back Up) Center / Guard (Back Up Caliber) Running Back (Back Up/3rd Down Back) Wide Receiver (Back Up/Special Teamer) Cornerback (Back Up/Special Teamer) Safety (Back Up/Special Teamer) 2019 ROSTER WITH RETURNING PLAYERS LIKELY TO BE ON THE TEAM Offense - 23 Quarterback - 3 14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221 USC 5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal NEW Running Back - 3 20 - Isaiah Crowell 5'11" 225 Alabama State OR 29 - Bilal Powell 5'11" 207 Louisville 25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette 40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185 Virginia State OR NEW Tight End - 3 89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami 86 - Jordan Leggett 6'5" 258 Clemson NEW Wide Receiver - 6 81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska 11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple 19 - Andre Roberts 5'11" 195 Marshall (KR) NEW NEW NEW Offensive Line - 8 68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303 SMU (T) 72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T/G) 67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G) 61 - Spencer Long 6'5" 318 Nebraska (C/G) 79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T) NEW NEW NEW Defense - 21 Defensive Line - 6 92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT) 96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300 Stanford (DE) 98 - Mike Pennel 6'4" 332 CSU-Pueblo (DT) 97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT) 99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) OR NEW 94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT) OR NEW Linebacker - 8 48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB) 58 - Darron Lee 6'1" 235 Ohio State (ILB) 54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB) 51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) 46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) 56 - Kevin Pierre-Lewis 6'1" 225 Boston College (ILB) 50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB) OR NEW NEW Cornerback - 6 22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana 21 - Morris Claiborne 5'11" 192 LSU 43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane 31 - Derrick Jones 6'2" 188 Mississippi (or Re-Sign Skrine) NEW NEW Safety - 4 33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU 26 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida 45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) OR NEW 36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State OR NEW Special Teams - 3 Punter - 1 4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State Kicker - 1 2 - Jason Myers 5'10" 190 Marist Long Snapper - 1 42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 “Mike Maccagnan’s job is safe.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Powell and Mclendon likely retire. Crowell and Long get released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 “Re-sign Skrine”?!?! How dare you? Are you insane?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I would flip flop OT and CB. Defense has taken a back seat in today's NFL last night not withstanding. Seattle put on a clinic as did the Bears on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Nice work Sarge4Tide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, dbatesman said: “Mike Maccagnan’s job is safe.” It's unreal. It's legit ridiculous to think we're going to fill all these holes in one offseason. So even with all the cap space and draft picks, the Jets will still go into 2020 with a ton of holes. But yes, let's keep the guy around who is responsible for putting us squarely in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So you’ve signed Powell, Qvale, Andersen, Enunwa and Roberts in free agency and still need to find 7 more legit players on offense who could make the 53 man roster. $100 million isn’t going to go very far. Going to be an off-season full of JAG free agent signings just to fill out a roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This looks about right but I think we're set at guard. Winters is solid and Long has proven to be a good starting LG. So I'd set our OL needs at Center (big need) and LT (a little less of a major need because Beachum is serviceable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, JiF said: It's unreal. It's legit ridiculous to think we're going to fill all these holes in one offseason. So even with all the cap space and draft picks, the Jets will still go into 2020 with a ton of holes. But yes, let's keep the guy around who is responsible for putting us squarely in this position. Exactly and we aren’t. It’s completely ridiculous that we have these many holes after 4 years. Talk about complete failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The real measure here isn't the total amount of players turned over, rather the percentage of snaps lost. For a Jets breakdown from last year...see this link....hint - it was not pretty in 2017. https://overthecap.com/roster-turnover-2017-number-32-21/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 A bunch of the proposed returning players are not under contract. But I do agree that we should give a bunch of them a chance under a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Powell and Mclendon likely retire. Crowell and Long get released agree on powell and mclendon. not so much on long. he's proving to be a decent guard. not so sure about crowell either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, JiF said: It's unreal. It's legit ridiculous to think we're going to fill all these holes in one offseason. So even with all the cap space and draft picks, the Jets will still go into 2020 with a ton of holes. But yes, let's keep the guy around who is responsible for putting us squarely in this position. they were probably going to need around 10 players just because of attrition. they won't be able to fill all the hoes with blue chips but they can upgrade many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Considering that C is such a critical need, it is remarkable the number of potential prospects that the Jets have squandered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I was thinking more in the number of 30 to 40 new players, but I guess they can start with 14 and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I would put TE as low on the priority list, I think Hendon looks legit and Leggett has even showed promise. Neil Sterling could be that #3 if he can stay healthy but def. low on priority list IMO. I'm also intrigued by Nickerson as our nickel corner and would love to see him get some playing time down the stretch. Of course with Bowles knowing he's fired he'll try to get that extra win or two over playing the younger guys so I doubt we'll see him or Deontey Burnett or even more Rishard Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: 2019 Jets Roster Needs HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS Wide Receiver (High Starting Caliber) Center / Guard (High Starting Caliber) Edge Rusher / OLB (High Starting Caliber) -- Spend whatever we need to to get Anthony Barr Cornerback (Starting Caliber) MEDIUM PRIORITY NEEDS Offensive Tackle (Starting Caliber/Solid Back Up Caliber) Defensive Tackle ( AT LEAST Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Tight End (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Wide Receiver (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) LOW PRIORITY NEEDS QB (Veteran Back Up) Center / Guard (Back Up Caliber) Running Back (Back Up/3rd Down Back) Wide Receiver (Back Up/Special Teamer) Cornerback (Back Up/Special Teamer) Safety (Back Up/Special Teamer) Nice work Sarge! From a free agency perspective, these are the guys I think we need to go after. I left blank the positions where there are just no options currently that fit the need at the moment or just weren't important enough to warrant listing any names. Obviously we can't/won't sign all of them, and several might never hit free agency, but a few of these would make a nice haul: HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS Wide Receiver (High Starting Caliber) -- Golden Tate Center / Guard (High Starting Caliber) -- G: Quinton Spain; C : Matt Paradis or Brett Jones (can also play G) Edge Rusher / OLB (High Starting Caliber) -- Spend whatever we need to to get Anthony Barr or 2nd choice Demarcus Lawrence. Supplement this addition by also landing Ziggy Ansah or Jadeveon Clowney Cornerback (Starting Caliber) -- Ronald Darby, Kareem Jackson, Bryce Callahan, or Bradley Roby MEDIUM PRIORITY NEEDS Offensive Tackle (Starting Caliber/Solid Back Up Caliber) Defensive Tackle ( AT LEAST Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Tight End (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) -- Jesse James or Lance Kendricks Wide Receiver (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) -- Cole Beasley LOW PRIORITY NEEDS QB (Veteran Back Up) -- Tyrod Taylor, Teddy Bridgewater, or bring back McCown Center / Guard (Back Up Caliber) Running Back (Back Up/3rd Down Back) -- Ty Montgomery or Tevin Coleman Wide Receiver (Back Up/Special Teamer) Cornerback (Back Up/Special Teamer) Safety (Back Up/Special Teamer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, JiF said: It's unreal. It's legit ridiculous to think we're going to fill all these holes in one offseason. So even with all the cap space and draft picks, the Jets will still go into 2020 with a ton of holes. But yes, let's keep the guy around who is responsible for putting us squarely in this position. It's okay because the rebuild is just beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: QB (Veteran Back Up) -- Tyrod Taylor, Teddy Bridgewater, or bring back McCown Teddy Bridgewater will be starting in the NFL next season. DO NOT bring back Josh McCown unless its as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Powell and Mclendon likely retire. Crowell and Long get released Long isn't going anywhere. Carpenter's contract is up, and they won't be re-signing him, while Long has been an upgrade at the position anyway. They have enough issues along the OL, that they won't create themselves another. Long will stick around as a guard while they look for a center and at least one OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Teddy Bridgewater will be starting in the NFL next season. DO NOT bring back Josh McCown unless its as a coach. There's not a dearth of options out there in free agency. So unless someone decent gets cut OR you're advocating using a middle round draft pick on a QB, McCown is one of the better options provided he doesn't retire. At least he knows he'll be the backup and is comfortable in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: There's not a dearth of options out there in free agency. So unless someone decent gets cut OR you're advocating using a middle round draft pick on a QB, McCown is one of the better options provided he doesn't retire. At least he knows he'll be the backup and is comfortable in that role. I hate to agree but a new HC wont treat him like he's a starter anymore in this league and hopefully he comes cheap if we do re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 McCown would be fine, for $2.5mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: I hate to agree but a new HC wont treat him like he's a starter anymore in this league and hopefully he comes cheap if we do re-sign him. Yep. Here are some of the other names. Ugly, for sure: Matt Schaub Brett Hundley Trevor Siemian Ryan Fitzpatrick Matt Cassel RG3 Geno Smith Mark Sanchez Brock Osweiler Matt Barkley Brandon Weeden Tom Savage The only name remotely interesting to me is not on the list above: Taylor Heinicke from the Panthers. Small school guy who would be dirt cheap and performed well in preseason games this year (24-36, 323 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 102.0 QB Rating in 4 appearances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: There's not a dearth of options out there in free agency. So unless someone decent gets cut OR you're advocating using a middle round draft pick on a QB, McCown is one of the better options provided he doesn't retire. At least he knows he'll be the backup and is comfortable in that role. When you're talking backup QB, that's the kind of position that could be easily influenced by who they end up bringing in as HC. If it's an offensive coach, any available veteran he has experience with would likely be the target. Of course you could make the argument at any other position, but at QB it would ideally be a guy who knows the offense around and would be helping out Darnold. It would be similar if they end up bringing in a veteran OC. We saw that first hand, considering Gailey's hire was what led to the trade for Fitzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: When you're talking backup QB, that's the kind of position that could be easily influenced by who they end up bringing in as HC. If it's an offensive coach, any available veteran he has experience with would likely be the target. Of course you could make the argument at any other position, but at QB it would ideally be a guy who knows the offense around and would be helping out Darnold. It would be similar if they end up bringing in a veteran OC. We saw that first hand, considering Gailey's hire was what led to the trade for Fitzy. John Harbaugh - RG3 Jim Harbaugh - Colin Kaepernick The latter would make this board sooooo much fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yep. Here are some of the other names. Ugly, for sure: Matt Schaub Brett Hundley Trevor Siemian Ryan Fitzpatrick Matt Cassel RG3 Geno Smith Mark Sanchez Brock Osweiler Matt Barkley Brandon Weeden Tom Savage The only name remotely interesting to me is not on the list above: Taylor Heinicke from the Panthers. Small school guy who would be dirt cheap and performed well in preseason games this year (24-36, 323 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 102.0 QB Rating in 4 appearances). This list right here is exactly why you trade 3 2nd rounders to get Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: John Harbaugh - RG3 Jim Harbaugh - Colin Kaepernick The latter would make this board sooooo much fun! Oh man, I could only freakin' imagine. Although the more likely scenario would be that Jim Harbaugh would come in, then bring up the point of signing Kap, the Johnsons would veto that idea, Harbaugh would quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, IndianaJet said: This list right here is exactly why you trade 3 2nd rounders to get Darnold. I would have preferred tanking properly to begin with, but yes, I'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Bleedin Green said: Oh man, I could only freakin' imagine. Although the more likely scenario would be that Jim Harbaugh would come in, then bring up the point of signing Kap, the Johnsons would veto that idea, Harbaugh would quit. Jim Harbaugh has worked with Josh Johnson before (also a UFA), so that would be a nice safe backup backup plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, TeddEY said: It's okay because the rebuild is just beginning. 2019 - The Real Rebuild sign up to buy your teeshirts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, JiF said: 2019 - The Real Rebuild sign up to buy your teeshirts! No thanks rumor has it the new Jets colors will be green, white,blue and gray. @johnnysd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds1029 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: 2019 Jets Roster Needs HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS Wide Receiver (High Starting Caliber) Center / Guard (High Starting Caliber) Edge Rusher / OLB (High Starting Caliber) Cornerback (Starting Caliber) MEDIUM PRIORITY NEEDS Offensive Tackle (Starting Caliber/Solid Back Up Caliber) Defensive Tackle ( AT LEAST Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Tight End (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) Wide Receiver (Contributor/Solid Back Up Caliber) LOW PRIORITY NEEDS QB (Veteran Back Up) Center / Guard (Back Up Caliber) Running Back (Back Up/3rd Down Back) Wide Receiver (Back Up/Special Teamer) Cornerback (Back Up/Special Teamer) Safety (Back Up/Special Teamer) 2019 ROSTER WITH RETURNING PLAYERS LIKELY TO BE ON THE TEAM Offense - 23 Quarterback - 3 14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221 USC 5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal NEW Running Back - 3 20 - Isaiah Crowell 5'11" 225 Alabama State OR 29 - Bilal Powell 5'11" 207 Louisville 25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette 40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185 Virginia State OR NEW Tight End - 3 89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami 86 - Jordan Leggett 6'5" 258 Clemson NEW Wide Receiver - 6 81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska 11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple 19 - Andre Roberts 5'11" 195 Marshall (KR) NEW NEW NEW Offensive Line - 8 68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303 SMU (T) 72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T/G) 67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G) 61 - Spencer Long 6'5" 318 Nebraska (C/G) 79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T) NEW NEW NEW Defense - 21 Defensive Line - 6 92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT) 96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300 Stanford (DE) 98 - Mike Pennel 6'4" 332 CSU-Pueblo (DT) 97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT) 99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) OR NEW 94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT) OR NEW Linebacker - 8 48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB) 58 - Darron Lee 6'1" 235 Ohio State (ILB) 54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB) 51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) 46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) 56 - Kevin Pierre-Lewis 6'1" 225 Boston College (ILB) 50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB) OR NEW NEW Cornerback - 6 22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana 21 - Morris Claiborne 5'11" 192 LSU 43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane 31 - Derrick Jones 6'2" 188 Mississippi (or Re-Sign Skrine) NEW NEW Safety - 4 33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU 26 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida 45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) OR NEW 36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State OR NEW Special Teams - 3 Punter - 1 4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State Kicker - 1 2 - Jason Myers 5'10" 190 Marist Long Snapper - 1 42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke I don't think we need corners. I feel Trumaine and Mo will get it together with an actual NFL head coach. I would like an upgrade but there are bigger fish to fry here. Wide Receiver and Offensive line in general are priority number 1. I don't care if no one is drafted or picked up in free agency on defense. The offense for Sam's sake takes priority over everything else and Sam needs a true #1 receiver. I feel Herndon will develop into a top 15 tight end by this time next year. But some depth would be nice, overall not a huge need. Edge rusher is a big need. I'm all for keeping this defense in tact the way it is except just adding a couple of Edge guys. I think this defense is talented enough to help Sam win games. We just need to focus on building the offense for Sam. That's it. All Mac (or whoever replaces him) has to do is fill the offense with talent and this team is a legit contender. This roster isn't as bad as Todd Bowles tries to make it look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No thanks rumor has it the new Jets colors will be green, white,blue and gray. @johnnysd Whatever man, I dont need your business. My teeshirts are selling like hotcakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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