Paradis Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Paradis said: This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley This was one of the plays that I questioned when I asked how Leo looked. I didn’t see the game but the clips shows horrible effort/technique on more than one play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Paradis said: This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley Damn....and that was a fumble too. If it bounced a different way we could have ended up with the ball (assuming our players actually tried to get near Allen). Williams sucked last game, he whiffed on at least two sacks/tackles of Allen, maybe he knew even if he ran he wouldn't be able to bring him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 He's been on a losing team his entire pro career. It's taken its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 There is no defending that garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: Damn....and that was a fumble too. If it bounced a different way we could have ended up with the ball (assuming our players actually tried to get near Allen). Williams sucked last game, he whiffed on at least two sacks/tackles of Allen, maybe he knew even if he ran he wouldn't be able to bring him down? There was a few replays where RBs and Allen simply out hustled Leo... terrible look for him. and this team. I hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 he got the roughing the passer out of frustration of not catching allen all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Paradis said: There was a few replays where RBs and Allen simply out hustled Leo... terrible look for him. and this team. I hate him. Any coach worth a damn would bench players who do this. Bowles will not punish Williams at all. Between the endless amount of penalties and stuff like this, there is no discipline or accountability whatsoever. Bowles is the problem. Who would have thought a former long time NFL safety could be so soft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Careful now...people point to MACC as a brilliant GM and we need Leo to play well to back up the MACC lovers here. All fairness, Leo is playing like a JET. Why get hurt in a 4-12 season? BUT that is Mo Wilkerson reincarnated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Any player that doesn't give 100% effort on every play doesn't deserve a roster spot. This is disgraceful, especially for a top 10 draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 meanwhile, on that same play anderson is busting his azz and diving to try and make the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: Any player that doesn't give 100% effort on every play doesn't deserve a roster spot. This is disgraceful, especially for a top 10 draft pick. Any player being paid the salaries these guys get paid, should be selling out each and every down. "...It's your job" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeangreenkillingmachine Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Williams knock coming out was his undeveloped frame. He was only 20 at the time so it was expected that he'd easily add some muscle to his framr. 300lb DL players with noodles for arms dont usually fare well in this league. Hes been here for 4 years and has probably added a 1/2 lb to his frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Williams almost got us Nick Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This is indefensible and inexcusable. A real HC would bench him for the next game. That kind of effort gets you cut if you don't have guaranteed money coming to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Paradis said: This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley pretty bad indictment of leo. and the thing is he was actually making some plays in this game. i guess he was also taking some plays off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This is more on the HC Todd Bowles but certainly also on the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, Paradis said: This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley I'd love for one of our crack news reporters to bring this up on a big screen during a press conference and ask Todd Bowles why this type of effort is acceptable on the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This is 90 % on todd bowles. Tough to blame Leo when he has watched slobs like mowilk and shle rich get away with everything, then there is revis and the other motley crew. This team has never had any accountability at all under fake tough guy bowles. The sooner we lose that clown the better. His coaching malaise started even in year one but even worse in year two when guys like mo and shel were given multiple away with permissions from off season works and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I think we can cross Leo off the list of Maccagnan’s “successful” first round draft picks. Everyone applauds that he didn’t screw up his 1st round selection, but it appears Leo is a dud as the 6th overall pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I don't understand how any athlete with pride could go out there and dog it like that.... so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Paradis said: This is disgusting... how does this team not bench people for this kind of effort?? WHAT IS HAPPENING?? #ToddGurley Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: This is 90 % on todd bowles. Tough to blame Leo when he has watched slobs like mowilk and shle rich get away with everything, then there is revis and the other motley crew. This team has never had any accountability at all under fake tough guy bowles. The sooner we lose that clown the better. His coaching malaise started even in year one but even worse in year two when guys like mo and shel were given multiple away with permissions from off season works and such. Disagree... that kind of lack of effort comes from the inside. If he can willingly dog it like that and be OK with it ESPECIALLY when he knows that he's on live TV being judged then there's nothing in the world anybody can do about it. That fire and passion has to be built into players. Look at Jamal Adams ... a rare breed and an upcoming all-pro but he plays every single down like it's his last. The Big Cat is on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Quick— we need Shane or Batesman to chime in with a sick Jamal Adams burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Guess what? The jets have all this fa money. Will not be able to sign any fas who will really help us and thus are going to have to spend it somehow. Get ready for us to sign a number of our own dog players to fat contracts just because we have the money and can't spend it. This really would be the perfect time to dump Mac with bowles as a new gm with no allegiances could make his roster, but instead Mccoffeenerd is going to hand out more brutal fat contracts for poor players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BigRy56 said: Disagree... that kind of lack of effort comes from the inside. If he can willingly dog it like that and be OK with it ESPECIALLY when he knows that he's on live TV being judged then there's nothing in the world anybody can do about it. That fire and passion has to be built into players. Look at Jamal Adams ... a rare breed and an upcoming all-pro but he plays every single down like it's his last. The Big Cat is on his way out. Give jamal another two years under bowles and see what happens. It is easy to motivate guys in there 1st or 2nd year in the league. After that the coach needs to keep the level of play up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Best Player In The Draft™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 This is more on the player than anything. Dogging it in essentially a contract year? Even Mo knew better than to do that. I mentioned this on gameday and thought maybe it was just me. That play is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Guess what? The jets have all this fa money. Will not be able to sign any fas who will really help us and thus are going to have to spend it somehow. Get ready for us to sign a number of our own dog players to fat contracts just because we have the money and can't spend it. This really would be the perfect time to dump Mac with bowles as a new gm with no allegiances could make his roster, but instead Mccoffeenerd is going to hand out more brutal fat contracts for poor players. Leo is the last man standing from Maccagnan’s 2015 draft. An entire draft class gone in just 4 seasons. Macc will give Leo an Aaron Donald type contract just to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, sec101row23 said: Leo is the last man standing from Maccagnan’s 2015 draft. An entire draft class gone in just 4 seasons. Macc will give Leo an Aaron Donald type contract just to save face. This is why I want an outsider with NO personal attachment to picks or a biased point of view when trying to justify keeping these bums. He has already started damage control and will continue by talking up Leo like he’s some great player (which is only fabricated from his draft slot). Mac will surely make the wrong moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Best Player In The Draft™ until you draft them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 In his defense it was sunny outside. Nice day for a stroll if you bundled up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On one hand, I wonder whether we could/should rescind his option year and also cut Lee, saving their cap money and starting over. On the other hand, maybe we keep both of them, who each will be highly motivated, and then move on and hope for trade value/comp picks. This allows the Jets to be competitive next year with players who are motivated for their next contract. Let another team write those second contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, varjet said: On one hand, I wonder whether we could/should rescind his option year and also cut Lee, saving their cap money and starting over. On the other hand, maybe we keep both of them, who each will be highly motivated, and then move on and hope for trade value/comp picks. This allows the Jets to be competitive next year with players who are motivated for their next contract. Let another team write those second contracts. They can still release Leo before the start of the league year. His contract isnt guaranteed unless he’s on the roster at the start of the league year. Since he was also a top 10 pick his 5th year option is more expensive. It’s the value of a player who would receive the transition tag at his position. No way I keep Leo around for that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 that's it, no more drafting defensive lineman early. First of all, they quit on you, secondly, it's a passing league anyway, and so it's not a premium position. I thought Mo, Sheldon, Snacks was the second coming of Klecko, Gasitineau, Salaam - boy, that went down the drain quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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