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1 hour ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I can't believe that I usually agree with you on most things.  This is troubling.  Not trying to insult you, because I don't want to fight with you, but REALLY?

This past weekend I had chicken wings in my fridge that spoiled. So I threw them out. Should I have  thrown out the good food in the fridge because of the spoiled chicken? Of course not.

Disagreeing on something today doesnt change what we saw eye to eye on on a different subject. 

There's alot that we probably agree and disagree on. Example, you probably celebrate birthdays and all holidays. I don't. Should we stop agreeing with one another on things we agree on because of that? I hope not. 

It's called a difference of opinion. We're not the borg. Folks believe alot of things that arent true. When I find problems with things I believe then I change them, just like with birthdays and holidays. 

I look at the world very differently, I know that. But that's a good thing...for me atleast. 

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2 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

This past weekend I had chicken wings in my fridge that spoiled. So I through them out. Should I have  thrown out the good food in the fridge because of the spoiled chicken? Of course not.

Disagreeing on something today doesnt change what we saw eye to eye on on a different subject. 

There's alot that we probably agree and disagree on. Example, you probably celebrate birthdays and all holidays. I don't. Should we stop agreeing with one another on things we agree on because of that? I hope not. 

It's called a difference of opinion. We're not the borg. Folks believe alot of things that arent true. When I find problems with things I believe then I change them, just like with birthdays and holidays. 

I look at the world very differently, I know that. But that's a good thing...for me atleast. 

YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY ******* BIRTHDAY!

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9 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

It happened or it didn't happen. Which one of these is counterfactual is, as ever, easily ascertained by looking to who's pretending it's a matter of opinion.

And since no one can provide definitive proof for either side then it must be categorized as an opinion one has. 

Either side can only provide supporting facts to show reasoning for their opinion on the matter. 

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7 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

And since no one can provide definitive proof for either side then it must be categorized as an opinion one has. 

Either side can only provide supporting facts to show reasoning for their opinion on the matter. 

No one has ever been attacked by a shark while I was in the ocean.  Thereby, I prevent shark attacks.  Prove me wrong.

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45 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

This past weekend I had chicken wings in my fridge that spoiled. So I threw them out. Should I have  thrown out the good food in the fridge because of the spoiled chicken? Of course not.

Disagreeing on something today doesnt change what we saw eye to eye on on a different subject. 

There's alot that we probably agree and disagree on. Example, you probably celebrate birthdays and all holidays. I don't. Should we stop agreeing with one another on things we agree on because of that? I hope not. 

It's called a difference of opinion. We're not the borg. Folks believe alot of things that arent true. When I find problems with things I believe then I change them, just like with birthdays and holidays. 

I look at the world very differently, I know that. But that's a good thing...for me atleast. 

Sounds good to me.  Just what I wanted/ expected to hear. Birthdays and Holidays, I celebrate mostly for other people, for me not so much.  Sorry about the chicken wings.  What a waste.  BTW, what's a "borg"?

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1 minute ago, TeddEY said:

No one has ever been attacked by a shark while I was in the ocean.  Thereby, I prevent shark attacks.  Prove me wrong.

Here you go. 

Every ocean is connected, essentially making it 1 body of water or 1 global ocean. You cannot prove that no one in the ocean has been attacked by a shark while you were in the ocean outside your vicinity or field of view. 

In other words, sometimes the statement is so ridiculous that it doesnt need to be proven wrong, but simply ignored. 

 

Kinda like phony moon landings. 

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8 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Here you go. 

Every ocean is connected, essentially making it 1 body of water or 1 global ocean. You cannot prove that no one in the ocean has been attacked by a shark while you were in the ocean outside your vicinity or field of view. 

In other words, sometimes the statement is so ridiculous that it doesnt need to be proven wrong, but simply ignored. 

 

Kinda like phony moon landings. 

 

Exactly why I didn't bother trying to prove to you the moon landings happened.  Some statements, like saying they were phony, are so ridiculous that there's no reason to even try to discuss it.

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33 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Sounds good to me.  Just what I wanted/ expected to hear. Birthdays and Holidays, I celebrate mostly for other people, for me not so much.  Sorry about the chicken wings.  What a waste.  BTW, what's a "borg"?

The Borg is from the show Star Trek. They're a group of people who have been technologically enhanced (destroyed) that their human individualism has been completely lost and they no longer think for themselves. Their opinions are all the same and in complete agreement, continuously...and it's because their opinions aren't truly theirs, but that of Borg.  


The Borg is one of the most fascinating groups of people IMO because it shows you the end result of being totally and completely assimilated. When you destroy a group of people, you dont have to kill them to do so, all you have to do is remove them from their customs, culture, most importantly strip of them of their individuality, pride and self worth over a period of time. And then, and this is the most important, at the same time, replace their culture with your own in order to assimilate them. 

 

The best example of this is Alexander the Greek and Hellenism if we go back through history. Folks know through being taught in history class that Alexander the Greek is one of the few kings of the ancient world to conquer the known world, but no one really studied how he did it. Well, he did it through assimilating conquered lands with Greek Culture, called hellenism. Rome did much similar, but they learned it from the Greeks. 

Anyway, that's what "The Borg" is. 

 

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Exactly why I didn't bother trying to prove to you the moon landings happened.  Some statements, like saying they were phony, are so ridiculous that there's no reason to even try to discuss it.

Yet you continue to talk about it, to me of all people.

What's the problem? I called the landings phony, but what you did was decide to bring up vaccines and autism in order to garner support for your space opinion by way of folks disagreeing with me with vaccines...trying to go the "popularity wins" route. Have you not realized that there's an extent to me caring about what my peers think or think of me? I have no problem standing on an opinion alone. It makes me feel like my balls are that much bigger for doing so. :-)

You telling me "exactly why" you didn't bother to try something makes no sense, as if I wrote to you and not EY. I wasn't talking to you. Get out of your feelings. 

 

Speaking of feelings, this is yet another reason why Im skeptical of most of this stuff anyway, because like what you did by trying to garner nominal support, Science on this topic does the exact same thing. 

Things that are true never have to take this route. 

 

But hey, what I eat dont make you sh*t brother. If you dont agree with me, stand firm with that, and dont feel the need to change my position. 

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7 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

The Borg is from the show Star Trek. They're a group of people who have been technologically enhanced (destroyed) that their human individualism has been completely lost and they no longer think for themselves. Their opinions are all the same and in agreement, continuously...and it's because their opinions aren't truly theirs, but that of Borg.  


The Borg is one of the most fascinating groups of people IMO because it shows you the end result of being totally and completely assimilated. When you destroy a group of people, you dont have to kill them to do so, all you have to do is remove them from their customs, culture, most importantly strip of them of their individuality, pride and self worth over a period of time. And then, and this is the most important, at the same time, replace their culture with your own in order to assimilate them. 

 

The best example of this is Alexander the Greek and Hellenism if we go back through history. Folks know through being taught in history class that Alexander the Greek is one of the few kings of the ancient world to conquer the known world, but no one really studied how he did it. Well, he did it through assimilating conquered lands with Greek Culture, called hellenism. Rome did much similar, but they learned it from the Greeks. 

Anyway, that's what "The Borg" is. 

 

If I realized it was a Star Trek episode, I would have known.  Great episode.  Sadly, if you are a student of history, seems you are, "Hellenism" and the reality of a "Borg" are closer than we'd like to admit.  Stay tuned.

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48 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Here you go. 

Every ocean is connected, essentially making it 1 body of water or 1 global ocean. You cannot prove that no one in the ocean has been attacked by a shark while you were in the ocean outside your vicinity or field of view. 

In other words, sometimes the statement is so ridiculous that it doesnt need to be proven wrong, but simply ignored. 

 

Kinda like phony moon landings. 

Ah, I guess I wasn’t clear.  My shark-reppelant abilities have roughly a 1 mile radius.

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48 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

If I realized it was a Star Trek episode, I would have known.  Great episode.  Sadly, if you are a student of history, seems you are, "Hellenism" and the reality of a "Borg" are closer than we'd like to admit.  Stay tuned.

I have to be, I was born from parents who descendants were slaves in a country I call my own. We were called Slaves, then negro, then colored, but colored quickly changed after the alleged civil rights movement, then I was called Black then, African American and finally the politically correct version "Minority". So many names for folks who seem not to know who they are, nor have the ability to name themselves for some reason. 

But, after I dropped out of college and began picking my own teachers and then verifying and fact checking behind them as best I could, I came across something very fascinating. The Borg is VERY real. Not in the way we see in Star Trek of course, but it is real indeed. 

I couldnt see it because as I began to review my own personal history I never went back beyond the 1600's, or the time of the Americas. Ironically, public schools dont go further back either, and for very good reason. Once I did that, thats when I began understanding. Then I was hooked, probably because for once I wasn't being indoctrinated, but being educated. And then, with the help of the internet, I was able to find information from all over the world, but more importantly, information from my own people that were dropped off in different area's of the world. However, I also learned that just because you come across a medium that provides an enormous amount of information ,doesnt mean that the information is accurate. Through trial and error I taught myself how to read things and how fact check, kinda like how people use precepts in the Bible. 

The more I began to understand, the more I was able to see that the customs and traditions that I observed weren't mine. Then I began to not just study history, but also study how the public school system/education system was created, but more importantly, why. 

Some folks think Villain is a special kind of stupid. And in the past they were right. I used to believe stupid things like Im a minority, and a colored, or a color named Black and all my heroes are celebrated in February and I have no history before 1619. 

The truth are in books, but people dont read books, they facebook. 

 

To see folks like Jetsfan80 reduce me to a person who's a conspiracy theorist because I probably got my latest view in of "The Zeitgeist" (Which means Time Ghost in German) is a typical underestimation. What he doesnt realize is that he's only validating what I already see....which is, The Borg. 

 

Folks aren't paying attention Joe. 

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5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Internet learning is wonderful, but if anything is causing and perpetuating the herd mentality and proliferation of fallacies that this thread is claiming, it is the internet.  The lack of fact checking and inability to police it is astounding.  Wiki-knowledge. 

It can't be the herd mentality on my end Dom. When has anyone ever agreed with me? :-) 

So if your position rings true, and I believe it does, we need to be looking at the "popular belief" here. 

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23 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

I have to be, I was born from parents who descendants were slaves in a country I call my own. We were called Slaves, then negro, then colored, but colored quickly changed after the alleged civil rights movement, then I was called Black then, African American and finally the politically correct version "Minority". So many names for folks who seem not to know who they are, nor have the ability to name themselves for some reason. 

But, after I dropped out of college and began picking my own teachers and then verifying and fact checking behind them as best I could, I came across something very fascinating. The Borg is VERY real. Not in the way we see in Star Trek of course, but it is real indeed. 

I couldnt see it because as I began to review my own personal history I never went back beyond the 1600's, or the time of the Americas. Ironically, public schools dont go further back either, and for very good reason. Once I did that, thats when I began understanding. Then I was hooked, probably because for once I wasn't being indoctrinated, but being educated. And then, with the help of the internet, I was able to find information from all over the world, but more importantly, information from my own people that were dropped off in different area's of the world. However, I also learned that just because you come across a medium that provides an enormous amount of information ,doesnt mean that the information is accurate. Through trial and error I taught myself how to read things and how fact check, kinda like how people use precepts in the Bible. 

The more I began to understand, the more I was able to see that the customs and traditions that I observed weren't mine. Then I began to not just study history, but also study how the public school system/education system was created, but more importantly, why. 

Some folks think Villain is a special kind of stupid. And in the past they were right. I used to believe stupid things like Im a minority, and a colored, or a color named Black and all my heroes are celebrated in February and you have no history before 1619. 

The truth are in books, but people dont read books, they facebook. 

 

To see folks like Jetsfan80 reduce me to a person who's a conspiracy theorist because I probably got my latest view in of "The Zeitgeist" (Which means Time Ghost in German) what he doesnt realize that he's only validating what I already see....which is, The Borg. 

 

Folks aren't paying attention Joe. 

I like what you have to say.  If you had pre-empted  your opinion on the Lunar Landing, perhaps @Jetsfan80 would have responded to you differently.  In any event, I don't think he meant any harm.  As far as the Lunar Landing goes you already know how I feel.  The rest of it is just good to know.  My best to you.  I don't do Facebook or any "Social Media",  JetsNation is as far as it goes for me.  If that makes me odd, tough sh#t.

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5 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I like what you have to say.  If you had pre-empted  your opinion on the Lunar Landing, perhaps @Jetsfan80 would have responded to you differently.  In any event, I don't think he meant any harm.  As far as the Lunar Landing goes you already know how I feel.  The rest of it is just good to know.  My best to you.  I don't do Facebook or any "Social Media",  JetsNation is as far as it goes for me.  If that makes me odd, tough sh#t.

I am sure that social media sorely misses you both. 

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23 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I like what you have to say.  If you had pre-empted  your opinion on the Lunar Landing, perhaps Jetsfan80 would have responded to you differently.  In any event, I don't think he meant any harm.  As far as the Lunar Landing goes you already know how I feel.  The rest of it is just good to know.  My best to you.  I don't do Facebook or any "Social Media",  JetsNation is as far as it goes for me.  If that makes me odd, tough sh#t.

You didn't need any pre-empted explanation in order to speak to me with respect. Folks get from me what they give me. Look at our interaction. This isnt the first time we've had a conversation on my thoughts on a subject matter. You present yourself as a person who can be engaging, listen to one's reasoning, even if you disagree. Not everyone can be that mature. In other words, you're not being dismissive in your disagreement. There's a clear difference between your approach and his. Which is all good, nothing I've never seen before. There's not alot of people who understand 

And Im with you. I dont have a facebook account either. I do have a twitter but that's more for business info. My only social media is Jetnation, and given my enormous fandom for Baker Mayfield, even some Jets fans are directing me to Browns forums! Lmao! 

 

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2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

And since no one can provide definitive proof for either side then it must be categorized as an opinion one has. 

Either side can only provide supporting facts to show reasoning for their opinion on the matter. 

No, because words mean things. Your stupid thoughts on the moon landing are beliefs, not opinions.

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1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Internet learning is wonderful, but if anything is causing and perpetuating the herd mentality and proliferation of fallacies that this thread is claiming, it is the internet.  The lack of fact checking and inability to police it is astounding.  Wiki-knowledge. 

There's nothing wiki-funny about falling off the continental shelf bro.

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Pretty clear some people have certain limitations in their understanding of the natural world, but project it as being "woke." I suppose Villain et al believe we just hucked up the retroreflector 240k miles prior to the fake Apollo 11 landing. And that Russia was totes in on proving we were the first to land. 

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12 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

No, because words mean things. Your stupid thoughts on the moon landing are beliefs, not opinions.

So lets see what these words mean then. 

Definition of "Belief": A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Definition of "Opinion": An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

When you look for synonyms for "Belief" one of the words you will come across is...."Opinion"

Well, what's the definition of "Synonym"?: A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example "opinion is a synonym of belief".

But in order to pacify you, lets run with your narrative that my thoughts are stupid and that they're just my beliefs and not at all opinions...as if there's vast difference between the two.

Lets force that narrative to make sense, even though we both know that words mean things.  

9 hours ago, BroadwayJoe12 said:

Pretty clear some people have certain limitations in their understanding of the natural world, but project it as being "woke." I suppose Villain et al believe we just hucked up the retroreflector 240k miles prior to the fake Apollo 11 landing. And that Russia was totes in on proving we were the first to land. 

I dont participate in the "woke" or other frivolous hashtag movements. Generally in society today, smart folks who've earned degrees generally learned only the ways of Einstein & Darwin and their pseudoscience. I looked into other places and found a different type of science with actual observable experiments to back them up, kinda like Tesla's work and his understanding of vibration, waves, frequency of waves and certain types of energy waves like electromagnetism, which when you review it, it then makes perfect sense how God can "speak" things and "it was so", or how the craters (which all happen to be damn near perfectly circular) developed on the Moon. So I absolutely agree, folks do have limitations on their understanding of the natural world. Many don't have a clue to be honest, its just that many people simply dont know what they dont know, and the things that they may find out they ignore in an effort not to feel uncomfortable in society. I can empathise with that...to a degree. 

And as for Russia, when Tzar Nicholas II and his family were assassinated by mercenaries under the false cover, or outer shell, named Bolshevik Marxism back in 1918, the controllers and agenda of Russia changed up unto this day. And that can be said for damn near every country today. Anyway, what should have happened was the monarchy was supposed to find the next emperor within that bloodline (Which follows the male), and Since Nicholas II children were also murdered and his father Alexander III only had one son (Nicholas II), you would have to go back to Nicholas II Grandfather, Alexander II to find the next male line which was Grand Duke Cyril Valdmirovich...who was named "Emperor in exile". His son Grand Duke Vlad Kirillovich became the head of the house of Romanov. And his daughter, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, is the head of the house today and could lay claim as actually being the Empress of Russia today if the monarchy was ever restored. However, if they require a male emperor (as tradition would have it) then you would have to go even further back to Nicolas II's Great Grand Father, Nicolas I and then follow the lineage through Nicolas I's son, Grand Duke Michael Nikolaevich. You'd end up today with Prince Andrew Andreyevich, President of the Romanov family. 

But that's a story not to be told in any further detail on Jetnation though, given that it touches on the political arena which isnt allowed on the site. Point being, what you "think" Russia would or wouldn't do is only based on what you've learned from your television. Some things you have to just look into for yourself...or just continue to assume that Villain is taking this "#woke" nonsense too far lol.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

So lets see what these words mean then. 

Definition of "Belief": A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Definition of "Opinion": An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

When you look for synonyms for "Belief" one of the words you will come across is...."Opinion"

Well, what's the definition of "Synonym"?: A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example "opinion is a synonym of belief".

But in order to pacify you, lets run with your narrative that my thoughts are stupid and that they're just my beliefs and not at all opinions...as if there's vast difference between the two.

Lets force that narrative to make sense, even though we both know that words mean things.  

I dont participate in the "woke" or other frivolous hashtag movements. Generally in society today, smart folks who've earned degrees generally learned only the ways of Einstein & Darwin and their pseudoscience. I looked into other places and found a different type of science with actual observable experiments to back them up, kinda like Tesla's work and his understanding of vibration, waves, frequency of waves and certain types of energy waves like electromagnetism, which when you review it, it then makes perfect sense how God can "speak" things and "it was so", or how the craters (which all happen to be damn near perfectly circular) developed on the Moon. So I absolutely agree, folks do have limitations on their understanding of the natural world. Many don't have a clue to be honest, its just that many people simply dont know what they dont know, and the things that they may find out they ignore in an effort not to feel uncomfortable in society. I can empathise with that...to a degree. 

And as for Russia, when Tzar Nicholas II and his family were assassinated by mercenaries under the false cover, or outer shell, named Bolshevik Marxism back in 1918, the controllers and agenda of Russia changed up unto this day. And that can be said for damn near every country today. Anyway, what should have happened was the monarchy was supposed to find the next emperor within that bloodline (Which follows the male), and Since Nicholas II children were also murdered and his father Alexander III only had one son (Nicholas II), you would have to go back to Nicholas II Grandfather, Alexander II to find the next male line which was Grand Duke Cyril Valdmirovich...who was named "Emperor in exile". His son Grand Duke Vlad Kirillovich became the head of the house of Romanov. And his daughter, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, is the head of the house today and could lay claim as actually being the Empress of Russia today if the monarchy was ever restored. However, if they require a male emperor (as tradition would have it) then you would have to go even further back to Nicolas II's Great Grand Father, Nicolas I and then follow the lineage through Nicolas I's son, Grand Duke Michael Nikolaevich. You'd end up today with Prince Andrew Andreyevich, President of the Romanov family. 

But that's a story not to be told in any further detail on Jetnation though, given that it touches on the political arena which isnt allowed on the site. Point being, what you "think" Russia would or wouldn't do is only based on what you've learned from your television. Some things you have to just look into for yourself...or just continue to assume that Villain is taking this "#woke" nonsense too far lol.

 

 

 

 

 

Great. You can google Russian history and reword it to sound like the pseudo intellectual ramblings of someone in their manic state. Still doesn’t touch on the retroreflector place during Apollo 11 or the litany of laser tests done prior. But sure, facts and science are just opinions. 

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23 hours ago, BroadwayJoe12 said:

Great. You can google Russian history and reword it to sound like the pseudo intellectual ramblings of someone in their manic state.

This is a poor angle to take. Here's why. If it was simply that easy to "google" that info, then why are you presenting info that could be refuted so easily? You're more interested in attacking the messenger instead of dealing with the message. The bottomline is this, it doesnt matter where I found the information, for as long as the info is verifiably true. Yet you'd rather attempt to hurt my feelings instead. 

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Still doesn’t touch on the retroreflector place during Apollo 11 or the litany of laser tests done prior.

Have you verifiably proven that there's a retroreflector on the moon placed there by astronauts?  No. 

When Lasers are allegedly shot at the moon and are "bounced back" with those lasers, are those pulses stated to be "invisible to the naked eye"? Yes. 

In otherwords, this goes into the "opinion's" category. You believe something that can't be proven independently. And I disagree with that opinion, yet can use science to support my position. Here's that science. 

We live within atmosphere, it's all around us. Rockets can push off of that atmosphere which is the resistance that allows Rockets to propel upwards into the sky by establishing thrust. Here's the problem. Space is a "vacuum", in otherwords there is no atmosphere to push against. Rockets require atmosphere and oxygen to work, space has neither. If there is no atmosphere to push off of, where the hell is the thrust coming from? Furthermore, if they were simply able to use the energy created from pushing off while in earth's atmosphere, how were they able to stop or navigate once outside of earths atmosphere? 

How about you take the time to figure that out, and get back to me. Oh, and if you decide to go the "Newton's 3rd law route" I'll make sure to quickly destroy it. So please, show how my position of rockets is faulty. And if you cant do that, then how about trying not to attack me, the person. 

 

Furthermore, what I do possess is the knowledge that you, BroadwayJoe12, cannot prove that there is a reflector on the moon or that anyone has ever stepped foot on it because you cant even prove that rockets can establish thrust in the supposed "endless vacuum of space". 

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But sure, facts and science are just opinions. 

Fact: Information used as evidence to support an idea or opinion.

Facts are not necessarily truths. Here's an example. Plenty of folks believe that Jesus Birthday is on December 25. It's a fact because society believes it. However, the truth is, the Bible never once mentions Jesus birthday. Not once, yet folks believe it. 

 

Science: The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Scientific experiments have not only proven that in an adequate sized vacuum there is nothing for a rocket to push against, but because it's a vacuum, that also means that there's no oxygen in order to maintain the combustion process which is what is use to push against the atmosphere that isnt in a vacuum, unless oxygen and nitrogen are also held on board in order to mix for combustion. But even if so, how can thrust be established in such an endless massive vacuum???

 

I answered you. Now watch you respond by attacking my character again. 

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