UnitedWhofans Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 It looks like Carpenter can be replaced by Long, who has looked better at LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 if mac and or bowles are back who will be gone is me and I will be walking away from my paid off psl gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Bowles Crowell Kearse Skrine Winters Tomlinson Luvu Attatchu Carpenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Crowell Kearse Beachum, (unless he signs cheap) Tomlinson Carpenter Skrine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 damn, i thought we were going to vote posters off the island.... As for the entire coaching staff, anybody happy with WR, ST, LB coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 How much better did Hewit look than Lee at ILB? Lee Kearse Williams Carpenter Crowell Skrine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie90 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Busted Skrine - so bad it’s comical. The fact he is one of the highest paid on this team makes me sad. Josh McCown - no reason to be in a uniform next season. A coach’s polo? Sure. Darren Lee - Defense better without him. He’s just not god enough to retain. Trumaine Johnson - his contract forces us to keep him, but that doesn’t mean he belongs here. Maybe a new coach will help. Isaiah Crowell - Not a good football player. Another poor choice in FA. These are just players. It’s obvious that Bowles and Macc should not be back either. Agreed. Skrine just takes way to many penalties, McCown not worth 10 mil, Darren Lee is like a stick in the mud & Crowell can suck it! TJ may be salvageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: How much better did Hewit look than Lee at ILB? Lee Kearse Williams Carpenter Crowell Skrine He isn't. PFF ranks Lee as the #20 overall LB which is good. Hewitt was ranked 75th the last time he got a large number of snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: He isn't. PFF ranks Lee as the #20 overall LB which is good. Hewitt was ranked 75th the last time he got a large number of snaps. Highly skewed by the first few weeks of the year. He looked a whole lot better than Lee, doing the dirty work and tackling well. He looked a lot better than Lee to me. I want to see more of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 We need new center, new guard, new tackle, new wr's (2) and new rb. All attention should be on offense supporting Sam. If an edge rusher falls in our laps maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, HessStation said: Besides the entire coaching staff and GM? 1. Tomlinson 2. Carpenter 3. Kearse 4. Peake 5. Skrine tend to agree with those guys. i think i'd throw in lee and leo at this point. lee for being a knucklehead and not really playing to his draft position and leo for getting a case of wilkitis. i think a change in coaching will help the vets perform better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Offense: Carpenter Enunwa Kearse Powell Crowell Long McCown Sterling Legget Tomlinson Defense: Skrine Not even going to list all the useless scrubs we have as depth in our secondary Not even going to list all the useless scrubs we have as depth in our LB'ing corps McLendon or Pennel - one of them has to go and we need to get our noobs some snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Paradis said: Offense: Carpenter Enunwa Kearse Powell Crowell Long McCown Sterling Legget Tomlinson Defense: Skrine Not even going to list all the useless scrubs we have as depth in our secondary Not even going to list all the useless scrubs we have as depth in our LB'ing corps McLendon or Pennel - one of them has to go and we need to get our noobs some snaps. dude, we have to field a team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, themeangreenkillingmachine said: What's with hating on Claiborne. Does everyone have him confused with Tremaine Johnson? Claiborne is a penalty machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 There are 2 types of players on these lists-those that are under contract in 2019, and those that are not. The Jets already have fewer players under contract for 2019 than any other team in football. Fixing this team is going to take time. To the extent a player is passable and under contract that is somewhat reasonable, I think we keep them. On offense that is basically Beachum, Long, Winters and Shell on the OL. Crowell (who ran for 200 yards once). Peake. All are paid pretty reasonably. On defense that is a bit trickier. Johnson is under contract, overpaid but not really cuttable until 2020. My guess is that he plays better next year so he does not get cut. Lee and Williams are under contract but overpaid. I would consider ditching those contracts. Lee could get brought back but not given his 5th year option. Skrine and Claiborne are not under contract. The fact that none of Mac's draft picks can replace Skrine is a further indictment of him. Claiborne as a CB 2 paid fairly is not the problem. The problem yesterday was that they were playing Claiborne as CB1. He is not CB1 anymore. I still think someone should able to replace Claiborne, but bringing back is not terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, peebag said: dude, we have to field a team next year. This is why $100+ Mil is not enough to fix this.... they need to draft nearly perfectly for the next 2+ drafts.... Maybe trade down and get more picks... but the lack of talent has never been more apparent. Besides Darnold, Adams and Maye what players would you even want to keep... OL? All replaceable (Beachem is the only player you might want to keep, Snell HAD potential, Long should be a G, Carpenter played better as a G... Winters is an ok G).... Very little talent RBs? All Replaceable. Eli is a back-up at most... Cannon would be more useful in special teams but needs to train in the offseason for that... No real Talent WRs? All Replaceable... No Talent... RA is a 3 or 4 on a real team DL? Leo is gone (hopefully) not worth the money he will want. All replaceable (Maybe Sheppard develops but I won't hold my breath, Anderson is something to keep maybe) LB? Williams is a liability in coverage... Lee is a screw-up with a pot problem.... Jenkins is a back-up as is Hewitt. Rest all replaceable CBs? Sure Tru is ok maybe as a #2 but not as a #1 but upgrade is needed. Skrine is hot garbage... maybe Nickerson becomes something in the slot but I doubt it if he can't beat Skrine out for the job. S... All set... Roberts isn't good enough as a back-up need depth. P... Eh, all set K... Garbage... need a reliable replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Kearse. He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I would cut all the WR's including Anderson. Sorry, they aren't good enough. They just don't show up at the end of games even when the ball hits them in the hands. Cro needs to be taken out back and put out if his misery. If we have someone better than Skrine to play DB, then yeah, get rid of him. Right now we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 With the overall cap going up, the replacement for any replaceable player will cost more than the player being replaced. The Jets can work with some of these guys, for now. The draft is key. They need more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, varjet said: With the overall cap going up, the replacement for any replaceable player will cost more than the player being replaced. The Jets can work with some of these guys, for now. The draft is key. They need more picks. Twice as many picks... As I stated above... the whole team outside of Adams, Darnold, maybe Maye... is completely replaceable... besides those 3 all the rest are depth... 100+ Mil is not enough to fix this team... Leo has been a huge disappointment this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, bitonti said: they have to pay someone who i don't want back: Bilal Powell Neal Sterling Buster Skrine Brian Winters Eric Tomlinson Frankie Luvu Jeremiah Attatchu James Carpenter one guy who looked good in limited snaps was Brandon Kaufusi he should be getting more Why Luvu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just FYI, this is what I have for the current roster Updated Roster 12/17/18 Offense - 24 Quarterback - 3 14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221 USC 15 - Josh McCown 6'4" 218 Sam Houston State 5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal Running Back - 3 25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette 40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185 Virginia State 35 - Deangelo Henderson 5'7" 208 Coastal Carolina (RB) Tight End - 3 89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami 83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP 86 - Jordan Leggett 6'5" 258 Clemson Wide Receiver - 6 81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska 11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple 10 - Jermaine Kearse 6'1" 205 Washington 19 - Andre Roberts 5'11" 195 Marshall (KR) 17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson 84 - Deontay Burnett 6'0" 180 USC Offensive Line - 9 68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303 SMU (T) 72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T/G) (Injury?) 67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G) 61 - Spencer Long 6'5" 318 Nebraska (C/G) 79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T) 78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C/G) 70 - Dakota Dozier 6'4" 313 Furman (C/G/T) 69 - Benjamin Braden 6'6" 335 Michigan (G/T) xx - Eric Smith 6'5" 300 Virginia (T) Defense - 26 Defensive Line - 6 92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT) 99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) 96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300 Stanford (DE) 98 - Mike Pennel 6'4" 332 CSU-Pueblo (DT) 97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT) 94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT) Linebacker - 9 48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB) 54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB) 51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) 46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) 56 - Kevin Pierre-Lewis 6'1" 225 Boston College (ILB) 55 - Jeremiah Attaochu 6'3" 252 Georgia Tech (OLB) 50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB) 93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB) (DE?) 91 - Bronson Kaufusi 6'6" 275 BYU (OLB/DE) Cornerback - 8 22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana 21 - Morris Claiborne 5'11" 192 LSU 41 - Buster Skrine 5'9" 185 Tennessee-Chattanooga 27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall (S?) 43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane 30 - Rashard Robinson 6'2" 177 LSU 31 - Derrick Jones 6'2" 188 Mississippi 34 - Jeremy Clark 6'3" 220 Michigan (CB) Safety - 3 33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU 23 - Terrence Brooks 5'11" 200 Florida State 45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) Special Teams - 3 Punter - 1 4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State Kicker - 1 2 - Jason Myers 5'10" 190 Marist Long Snapper - 1 42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke Physically Unable to Perform List - 0 xx Suspended List - 1 58 - Darron Lee 6'1" 235 Ohio State (ILB) Injured Reserve List - 9 20 - Isaiah Crowell 5'11" 225 Alabama State (RB) 29 - Bilal Powell 5'11" 207 Louisville (RB) 82 - Rishard Matthews 6'0" 217 Nevada (WR) 85 - Neal Sterling 6'3" 257 Monmouth (TE) 71 - Ben Ijalana 6'4" 322 Villanova (T/G) 77 - James Carpenter 6'5 321 Alabama (G) 95 - Josh Martin 6'3" 245 Columbia (OLB) 36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State (S) 26 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida (S) Practice Squad - 10 37 - Mark Thompson 6'1" 235 Florida (RB) 44 - Joel Bouagnon 6'2" 230 NIU (RB) 84 - JJ Jones 5'10" 173 West Georgia (WR) xx - DeAngelo Yancey 6'1" 220 Purdue (WR) 76 - Dieugot Joseph 6'6" 300 FIU (OT) 64 - Jon Toth 6'5" 310 Kentucky (C) 75 - Destiny Vaeao 6'4" 299 Washington State (DL) 52 - Anthony Wint 6'0" 224 FIU (ILB) 53 - Jonathan Celestin 6'1" 232 Minnesota (ILB) 38 - Brandon Bryant 6'0" 215 Mississippi State (S) Practice Squad Injured - 1 44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB) (wiaved by Chiefs) (INJURED) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, bitonti said: who i don't want back: Bilal Powell Neal Sterling Buster Skrine Brian Winters Eric Tomlinson Frankie Luvu Jeremiah Attatchu James Carpenter Neal Sterling got a raw deal here for some unknown reason Todd Bowles decided to use him on kickoffs at the time he was our best TE he suffered a serious concussion and probably came came back too soon and suffered another. Kid can play great hands and great blocker. Frankie Luvu has played well here and maybe with a decent DC will play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, peebag said: dude, we have to field a team next year. Meh. what's it amount to? We're already running on McGuire/Cannon -- acquire an RB1.... our WRs playing peekaboo with the line up as it is, again, you could retain Anderson, Burnett, and add Split End/or Flanker.. the rest behind them should be youth. Carpenter's on IR. What we're really talking about is shedding dead weight that's on IR right now, and bringing in talent to groom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Neal Sterling got a raw deal here for some unknown reason Todd Bowles decided to use him on kickoffs at the time he was our best TE he suffered a serious concussion and probably came came back too soon and suffered another. Kid can play great hands and great blocker. Frankie Luvu has played well here and maybe with a decent DC will play better. Who cares sterling, can't stay healthy. It sucks, but see ya. Same with Powell Same with Enunwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Paradis said: Who cares sterling, can't stay healthy. It sucks, but see ya. Same with Powell Same with Enunwa He suffered a concussion and was probably brought back too soon and suffered another thats far from being injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Jason Myers has had a great year but 2 missed PATs is not great. Jets should bring in Roger Podacter for a tryout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Jeremiah Attaochu Tarrell Basham Dakota Dozier Trumaine johsnon Bronson Kaufisi Jermaine Kearse Jordan Leggett Josh McCown Steve mcclendon Rontez miles Mike pennel Brent Qvale Rashard Robinson Buster Skrine Eric Thomlinson James Carpenter Isiah Crowell Ben Ijalana Josh martin Neil Sterling Darron Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 14 hours ago, Jetster said: A lot of threads about who we want. How about who you don't want to see in a Jets uniform next year? Skrine, Tomlinson, Kearse, Lee, Clairborne are my top 5. What is the point in getting rid of Lee? He isnt even on his 5th year option. Regardless of what you think of him as a player or what you think of his IQ after the suspension, he makes nothing and is one of our starting LBers who you can argue has improved every season. Even if you draft someone that breaks out in training camp, or even if you sign a vet that takes his job, there is no way Lee goes anywhere. This team is going to have holes EVERYWHERE this off season. And I dont mean the holes where the player we have at that position sucks. I mean holes as I'm we literally dont have a human being signed to play that position. You dont create more holes you need to fill by cutting a young, serviceable (at the very least) player that makes nothing. I cant really argue with the other players listed. Kesrse seems like a really good guy so it's hard for me to root against hin. The fact that Skrine has played out all of that horrible contract baffles me. I dont know if Mo gets resigned but we need to look somewhere for a #2CB (and #3 I suppose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Our entire defensive line, except Henry Anderson. I’d take a 4th galadly for Leo before I paid him. I think Nathan Shepherd is in the witness protection program, but if we can find out where he’s been, I’d cut him. The rest of them are just bodies. Nobody knows who they are, or what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: What is the point in getting rid of Lee? He isnt even on his 5th year option. Regardless of what you think of him as a player or what you think of his IQ after the suspension, he makes nothing and is one of our starting LBers who you can argue has improved every season. Even if you draft someone that breaks out in training camp, or even if you sign a vet that takes his job, there is no way Lee goes anywhere. This team is going to have holes EVERYWHERE this off season. And I dont mean the holes where the player we have at that position sucks. I mean holes as I'm we literally dont have a human being signed to play that position. You dont create more holes you need to fill by cutting a young, serviceable (at the very least) player that makes nothing. I cant really argue with the other players listed. Kesrse seems like a really good guy so it's hard for me to root against hin. The fact that Skrine has played out all of that horrible contract baffles me. I dont know if Mo gets resigned but we need to look somewhere for a #2CB (and #3 I suppose) Neville hewitt and pierre louis walked into the lineup and were better than Lee. I would happily deal him for a pick. Don;t worry no chance mac walks from this guy no matter what but he simply is not good at all. He had two good games to start the year interception wise. He is also very dubious in the brain box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Anyone carrying a play sheet or wearing headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Josh McCown Bilal Powell, Isaiah Crowell, Trenton Cannon, Lawrence Thomas Neal Sterling, Eric Tomlinson, Jordan Leggett Kelvin Beachum, Brian Winters, Spencer Long, James Carpenter, Brandon Shell, Dakota Dozier, Ben Braden, Jonotthan Harrison, Brent Qvale Robby Anderson, Terrelle Pryor, Jermaine Kearse, Quincy Enunwa, Andre Roberts, Charone Peake Leonard Williams, Mike Pennel, Steve McLendon, Henry Anderson, Nathan Shepherd, Folorunso Fatukasi Darron Lee, Jordan Jenkins, Josh Martin, Avery Williamson, Neville Hewitt, Brandon Copeland, Jeremiah Attaochu Trumaine Johnson, Morris Claiborne, Darryl Roberts, Parry Nickerson, Buster Skrine, Derrick Jones, Juston Burris Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, Doug Middleton, Terrence Brooks, J.J. Wilcox Jason Myers, Thomas Hennessy, Lachlan Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Who do we NOT want back? Todd Bowles Kacy Rodgers Jeremy Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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