nico002 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 After the Packers' losing season of Rodgers's rookie year, head coach Mike Sherman was fired and replaced by current head coach Mike McCarthy.[56][57] Rodgers was then placed in McCarthy's "Quarterback school" for six hours a day several times a week.[58] This focused on working on Rodgers's motor skills such as hand-eye coordination, finger dexterity, and mechanics.[54] McCarthy also worked on Rodgers's release point, moving it from right beside the ear hole of his helmet to further below it, to give him a smoother release.[59]Rodgers was also instructed to lower his body fat ratio from 15 percent to 12 percent.[54]Rodgers was resistant to the changes at first but later commented that he thought they were for the better.[58] During practice in 11-on-11 drills, Rodgers completed 62.7% of his passes with seven interceptions, and McCarthy commented that "He's getting better" and that "You're looking at a guy who's going to mature. He's got athletic ability that people still haven't seen."[59] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 JUST DO IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thats pretty cool. And so much better than the "Todd Bowles school for Quarterbacks" which employs the proven method of multiple forcible viewings of a film montage of Interceptions interlaced with Air Disaster Footage, and an audio track of people screaming "NO!", followed by the subject writing "I will not take risks with the Football ever, it is my job to protect the Defense" 1000 times. Actual footage of the Bowles Method of QB indoctrination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Would "QB school" be against the current CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The more I read the more I want this guy. Go get him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 it's a good point but what head coach wouldn't take some extra time to get his qb ready? it seems pretty basic that the guy who is most important for a team's success (and yes the offense does drive the defense) get's as much coaching as necessary. i remember thinking way back during the todd/walton years that one of todds problems is that he lost his qb coach (walton) when he was elevated to head coach. todd needed that personal attention to keep his psyche in check. it should be the same thing now. some guys are going to need more coaching and hands on than others but the effect is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Thats pretty cool. And so much better than the "Todd Bowles school for Quarterbacks" which employs the proven method of multiple forcible viewings of a film montage of Interceptions interlaced with Air Disaster Footage, and an audio track of people screaming "NO!", followed by the subject writing "I will not take risks with the Football ever, it is my job to protect the Defense" 1000 times. Actual footage of the Bowles Method of QB indoctrination. he was cured alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That's where Aaron Rodgers got "WOKE"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 hours ago, nico002 said: After the Packers' losing season of Rodgers's rookie year, head coach Mike Sherman was fired and replaced by current head coach Mike McCarthy.[56][57] Rodgers was then placed in McCarthy's "Quarterback school" for six hours a day several times a week.[58] This focused on working on Rodgers's motor skills such as hand-eye coordination, finger dexterity, and mechanics.[54] McCarthy also worked on Rodgers's release point, moving it from right beside the ear hole of his helmet to further below it, to give him a smoother release.[59]Rodgers was also instructed to lower his body fat ratio from 15 percent to 12 percent.[54]Rodgers was resistant to the changes at first but later commented that he thought they were for the better.[58] During practice in 11-on-11 drills, Rodgers completed 62.7% of his passes with seven interceptions, and McCarthy commented that "He's getting better" and that "You're looking at a guy who's going to mature. He's got athletic ability that people still haven't seen."[59] I don’t know where you got this piece, but it’s pretty amazing that a HC would have that kind of input on a young QB’s development. Sounds like a good fit for the Jets current situation. One thing Jetnation folks need to understand is, it’s not so much whether the fans or administration wants him as much as, does he really want to come to this cluster of an organization. He’s going to be a HC somewhere next year. I’ll bet on that. Maybe he’s not very high on many Jetnation guys’ lists however maybe the Jets ain’t very high on his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Christmas present for us Jets fans. Day after the season is over, can both Mac and Bowles. Hire Reggie McKenzie, and tell him to go get McCarthy no matter what the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I don’t know where you got this piece, but it’s pretty amazing that a HC would have that kind of input on a young QB’s development. Sounds like a good fit for the Jets current situation. One thing Jetnation folks need to understand is, it’s not so much whether the fans or administration wants him as much as, does he really want to come to this cluster of an organization. He’s going to be a HC somewhere next year. I’ll bet on that. Maybe he’s not very high on many Jetnation guys’ lists however maybe the Jets ain’t very high on his list.The Jets are in a pretty good situation for a potential coach (even better for a GM)21 year old Franchise QB in place, massive cap space, top 3 pick and an aging Brady. He can build the team in his own image with relatively low early expectations.Honestly, Mac is really the major issue. he’s a disaster and can keep coaches like McCarthy away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 A young QB needs development. In today’s NFL, the price of an offensive guru is to make him HC. That is the problem with the Rivera argument. Who is he going to get to be OC When you think about it, the fact that Bowles was able to hire Gailey and Morton was actually a miracle. And they regretted it. Even Rivera and Carroll have highly athletic QBs who can run around. The Jets need an offensive guru. The best a guy like John Harbaugh can do is Marty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Honestly, Mac is really the major issue. he’s a disaster and can keep coaches like McCarthy away. This is the biggest issue and the $4mm question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Is McCarthy going to be a guy who wants total control? A Parcells type who needs to buy the groceries to make the dinner? If he is looking for that, MAC being in place prevents it. So these are questions that need to be found out. I love hearing about how he helped to develop Rodgers. how can any Jets fan not read that and dream of an already improving Darnold in his QB camp. I think this is a must get for the Jets in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I’m on board with McCarthy, I think he’s pissed and has something to prove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 A lot of the criticisms I've heard of McCarthy on this board have to do with him being inflexible and antiquated. But are people sure of that? This article seems to indicate that it's not that simple. Debunking the Myths of Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers and the Packers Offense By ANDY BENOIT November 26, 2018 The Packers turned in another up-and-down, ultimately disappointing performance at Minnesota Sunday night, which only intensifies Mike McCarthy’s already hot seat. The 13th-year head coach has become a receptacle for criticism, much of it adhering to the same theme: that his offensive system is stale. The first problem is this analysis is a few years too late (more on that in a moment). The second—and much bigger—problem is it gives Aaron Rodgers a pass for the highly inconsistent way he executes this offense. Please understand, you’re not reading an Aaron Rodgers Hot Take. At least, not according to discussions that occur within the NFL. Around the league, Rodgers is regarded as an incredible but imperfect quarterback. Outside the NFL, Rodgers is basically viewed as a god. It has somehow become heretical to say anything critical of him. Hannah Foslien/Getty Images Rodgers is the most physically talented quarterback of all-time; 32 NFL GMs would be happy to build their team around him. When he’s clicking, he’s magnificent. But Rodgers does not click with the regularity of a Drew Brees, Tom Brady or even a resurgent Andrew Luck. There is no stat that captures throws that should be made but aren’t, or throws that could have been made on-schedule but were made off-schedule. If these categories existed, Rodgers would have as many as any quarterback, every year. He’s a scintillating sandlot player who goes into sandlot mode way too often. Yes, Rodgers’s unique style, which few QBs have enough talent to call upon, has led to some of his most spectacular plays. But in the aggregate, it also creates the illusion of dysfunction around him. To television viewers, Rodgers runs around because his O-line breaks down. Or because, presumably, receivers aren’t getting open. And they’re not getting open because the scheme isn’t helping them. Sometimes this is the case. But just as often, the glitches aren’t coming from everyone around the quarterback, but from the quarterback himself. What’s most befuddling: Right when you start to think Rodgers will forever read the field with the choppiness of a rookie, he starts slinging the ball with perfectly disciplined timing and rhythm. When that switch is flipped, Rodgers borders on unstoppable. His greatness reaches such a level that, when the switch is flipped back, you understand why outside observers can’t help but assume the problem is everyone else. This is where McCarthy is getting victimized. A great illustration of Rodgers’s unevenness came two weeks ago in Green Bay’s win over Miami. The Packers faced a 4th-and-2 near midfield. The Dolphins are a zone D that almost always plays nickel. Knowing their nickel would keep two linebackers on the field, McCarthy put in a fourth receiver and aligned Davante Adams in the backfield, so their top weapon could run his route against those overmatched linebackers. Adams did, breaking open on a short-angle route right in Rodgers’s immediate line of vision. The play worked perfectly. And Rodgers, for reasons not even Sigmund Freud could figure out, tried to break down and extend the play. A quick-strike play like this can’t be extended, though, and naturally, the protection cracked and Rodgers was sacked. Imagine if it had been Sean McVay putting Brandin Cooks at running back. Or Andy Reid putting Tyreek Hill there. Their genius would have been heralded once again. On a big fourth down gamble the offensive mastermind puts his best wide receiver at running back and catches the defense off balance! Boy, you never know what this coach will do next! DESCRIPTION Of course, McVay’s QB or Reid’s QB (or almost any team’s QB) would have thrown the ball on that play. McCarthy’s QB didn’t, and so, to outside observers, McCarthy’s creativity here never existed. That creativity lately has shown up on other plays, too. In fact, this season, McCarthy’s offensive scheme has evolved dramatically. Early in the year, it was mostly just the simple spread formations that propagate isolation routes—that’s the unimaginativeness McCarthy has been dogged for over the years. Most likely he played this way because it accommodated Rodgers’s sandlot tendencies. It worked when the Packers had the right veteran receivers. But with an aging Jordy Nelson gone, James Jones longgone, and Randall Cobb either out injured or not looking like himself, the Packers this season have had to rely on callow, rookie receivers who are not yet capable of getting open on their own or finding the defense’s soft spots when Rodgers extends plays. So, McCarthy has scrapped some of the iso-spread passing concepts for newer-age designs. He has used spread formations this November about half as often as he did in September. More importantly, he’s used condensed formations, with receivers aligned tight to the formation, about three times as often. Those condensed sets are the same thing McVay uses in L.A. It gives receivers more field to work with, which propagates more schematic variables in the passing game and a more natural intertwinement of routes. It also creates congestion for a defense, rendering coverages more predictable. This makes it easier for a QB to anticipate open throws. And, receivers who align tight to the formation are in better position to block safeties in the running game, which makes play-action off of that even more believable. On a related note, the Packers have also employed more snaps of two-tight end personnel, which diversifies a scheme, particularly on the ground. The results of McCarthy’s updated approach have been mixed, in part because Rodgers’s execution has been mixed. Still, it’s reasonable to keep McCarthy on the hot seat; even with his improved approach, he’s far from flawless. But when evaluating McCarthy, we must admit that his quarterback is far from flawless, too. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/26/green-bay-packers-offense-problems-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers Question to mods: Why was the source code button removed from the Reply menu? It used to make posting articles like these so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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