SheaRay Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 It looks like Herbert will stay in school next year. As bad as Jet management is, take comfort in knowing their stadium mates are just as lame. The Giants always seem to get a pass with bad moves and picks. I love Barkley but how they passed on taking a QB this year with an aging QB is beyond me. They just set back their franchise a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 If Herbert comes out, it increases the value of our pick in a possible trade down. That's the only reason I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Who cares? He was likely the highest rated QB in the draft. Him not coming out makes it less likely someone is going to trade a bunch of picks to move up to take a QB. Which would have helped the Jets for sure. So, I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Who cares? It makes the top picks that much more valuable- increases the opportunity for the Jets to trade down with a QB hungry team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Number 3 is the spot to come up and get a qb. We are in a prime position in the draft right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: He was likely the highest rated QB in the draft. Him not coming out makes it less likely someone is going to trade a bunch of picks to move up to take a QB. Which would have helped the Jets for sure. So, I care. I more or less took the subject matter as discussing the Giants QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheaRay Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Who cares? I guess you do because you read my post. Or maybe the posters who seem concerned with the Jets draft # next year in terms of possibly trading down with a QB needy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, sec101row23 said: Is that him in a new Jets uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Bad News- Teams will be less likely to want to trade up with us Good News- We are closer to another year of Eli Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Gotta count on Dwayne Haskins coming out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 How high will Haskins go now I wonder? Top 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: What is the decalration deadline? He could change his mind still, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Rhg1084 said: How high will Haskins go now I wonder? Top 5? If he kills it in his workouts, he will go top 3. Someone will come up and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 And with that, any hope of a trade down is pretty much dead. I don’t see anyone giving away multiple picks to move up for Haskins or Lock. Hell, those guys may not even go in the Top 10. I know a lot of the talk has been about Josh Allen, but if we’re picking at #2 or #3 and Bosa is already gone...Oliver or Q. Williams could very well be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: If he kills it in his workouts, he will go top 3. Someone will come up and get him. Cincinnati seems like the team that would trade the farm to move up to get a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: What is the decalration deadline? He could change his mind still, no? Nah. Once he declares he isn’t going to go back on it. Technically he could, but I never thought Herbert was coming out to begin with. He has been pretty consistent all year in saying he didn’t want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 The move was to tank for Jake Fromm anyways. (or Tua) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Untouchable said: And with that, any hope of a trade down is pretty much dead. I don’t see anyone giving away multiple picks to move up for Haskins or Lock. Hell, those guys may not even go in the Top 10. I know a lot of the talk has been about Josh Allen, but if we’re picking at #2 or #3 and Bosa is already gone...Oliver or Q. Williams could very well be the pick. Isn’t it a supply and demand thing? There’s high demand for a qb from a few teams out there, and the supply is low (only one guy really now with Haskins). Would think our pick became more valuable if Haskins is taken with the first two picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, peebag said: It makes the top picks that much more valuable- increases the opportunity for the Jets to trade down with a QB hungry team Exactly. It increases the opportunity since supply does not meet demand. And is the NFL draft’s life, QB’s always get drafted sooner than later and desperate teams will always reach for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Nah. Once he declares he isn’t going to go back on it. Technically he could, but I never thought Herbert was coming out to begin with. He has been pretty consistent all year in saying he didn’t want to leave. ok, thanks. One less trade bait for anbother team moving up. Too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I can still see Haskins going #1 overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Isn’t it a supply and demand thing? There’s high demand for a qb from a few teams out there, and the supply is low (only one guy really now with Haskins). Would think our pick became more valuable if Haskins is taken with the first two picks. It’s always possible, but I doubt it. I think many around the league have started to learn that you don’t put all of your eggs into the Blake Bortles/Christian Ponder/Jake Locker/EJ Manuel basket just because you have a major need at QB. In all likelihood, the Jets are going to be stuck picking in the Top 3 with not one, but two bluechip interior DL slated to go right in that area. God help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, nico002 said: I can still see Haskins going #1 overall Who is trading up to get him? No one in the top 4 or 5 need a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpoppy717 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Isn’t it a supply and demand thing? There’s high demand for a qb from a few teams out there, and the supply is low (only one guy really now with Haskins). Would think our pick became more valuable if Haskins is taken with the first two picks. You mean is Haskins isnt' taken before our pick, right? Because, assuming he is the only top-10 pick worthy QB, and he's still available when Jets pick, that pick becomes more valuable to a QB desperate team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheaRay Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 The good news is there's a fair amount of teams who will be in the QB market next year. Of course not all will have the appetite to trade up relative to immediate need and player quality. Teddy Bridgewater will be heading to one. Some of the teams looking at QB in 2019. Am I missing one? Raiders Jags Washington Tampa Giants Denver Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Still feel someone will trade up to snatch a QB. Happens all the time. Yes having Herbert not in the draft stings but I still feel we will have good possibilities of a trade down after the combine/workouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, peebag said: It makes the top picks that much more valuable- increases the opportunity for the Jets to trade down with a QB hungry team BINGO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I’m also not sure why so many are convinced that the Raiders are moving on from Carr. He started off playing like sh*t but he’s been pretty damn solid for the last couple months. Hasn’t thrown a pick since the beginning of October. Gruden knows damn well how hard it is to find a quality, young starting QB in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Who is trading up to get him? No one in the top 4 or 5 need a QB. Raiders do. If we stay ahead of them, they might move up to prevent another team from doing so. They certainly have plenty of picks to be able to afford a move like that. Giants at 6, Bucs at 7/8, and Jaguars at 9 are options too. Moving down a few slots and picking up a 2nd rounder and maybe more would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, nycdan said: If Herbert comes out, it increases the value of our pick in a possible trade down. That's the only reason I care. Nobody is coming up to 3 or 4 for a QB Herbert was mocked to the patriots at pick 27 or something this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, nico002 said: I can still see Haskins going #1 overall So you see someone trading with the Cardinals? Possibly. The main reason to do that would be to make sure another team doesn't do so, since the 49ers at 2 don't need a QB. And the smart thing for the team trading up would be to do that prior to the draft. I could see the Raiders doing that, since they have the most picks to offer in a package, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 not a good move by hebert is you ask me. If you are rated the #1 or #2 guy in the draft Qb wise you should come out even if you do not go like top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Raiders do. If we stay ahead of them, they might move up to prevent another team from doing so. They certainly have plenty of picks to be able to afford a move like that. Giants at 6, Bucs at 7/8, and Jaguars at 9 are options too. Moving down a few slots and picking up a 2nd rounder and maybe more would be fantastic. I can’t see the Giants or Tampa trading up to take a QB now. Not in this draft class. They can keep Manning and Winston for another year and re-evaluate next year when you have a much better class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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