jetstream23 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 37 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said: $20 million guaranteed for injury to a bloke who is guaranteed to be injured is very generous. I wish my bosses were as generous. Well, to be honest, I've injured myself numerous times while the Jets are playing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 11 games in the last two years including a serious neck injury. I totally get it man. I’m not ok with Q being our 1 or even 2 given his injury history. He’s a #3/depth/guy that puts you over the top when healthy type player. We still need to draft a receiver since we won’t find too much in FA. Maybe he stays healthier in a more limited role and we could use him in 2 TE sets kind of like when he was used as H back/gadget guy a few years ago. Universal weapon on offense but should not be replied upon. He’s the icing on the cake. I’m still happy with the deal even though this icing is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Pac said: Slight over payment given the injury history but there is no denying his impact when healthy. When you consider that Sammy Watkins got a 3 year, 48 Mil contract with 30 mil guaranteed this doesn't seem too bad. Enunwa is exactly the kind of guy you want around Darnold which I'm sure played a significant part in the decision. Watkins is a great example why you don’t sign guys that are injury prone. He’s had one good season that was cut short by injury, a solid rookie season and the rest are sh*t. If he stayed healthy he’d be a good receiver but he can’t so it’s a waste of cap and roster space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 11 games in the last two years including a serious neck injury. Don't want to answer the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 seems a bit much for a player who is rarely healthy but i do like him when hes on the field. keeping fingers crossed he can live up to this contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Joe Jets fan said: You keep this up, prove to me all these moves you speak of were not all Bowles. Prove it. Bowkes has so much power I think a ton of the picks and signings were all Bowles. Wow 4 butt fumbles. I'm impressed. Don't sweat it (not that you are) Mob Mentality is very real. The idea that Macc is staying, right or wrong, is going to get a lot of people here very upset. I fully expect weeks of outrage and condescension. That being said, I like Enunwa and am glad we retained him. I hope Anderson is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Let’s hope this is the last time we see a WR group like this starting a regular season game. Embarrasssing. NE is trembling just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 enunwa is a very good slot receiver. he’s been hurt but considering that a 30 year old golden tate is going to get a similar deal I’d much rather have the younger player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Q was in a good position. The WR free agent market is thin and the jets must keep talent around Sam He plays with tremendous intensity and desire they just need to get him to avoid some hits lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: After 4 years the jets roster is pretty close to being as bad as after idzik other than finding qb in year 4 that you had to traade 3 2nd rounders to get. Idzik 8-8, 4-12 Mac 10 wins, 5 wins 5 wins, probably 4 wins Idzik sucked at drafting Mac sucks at drafting and team planning After 4 years this roster is nowhere near as barren as that roster. Start with QB. Move to anyone playing CB. Anyone. OL etc. Funny how we can always credit who we want for 8-8. Idzik, sure. Geno? LOL, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The middle part is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: After 4 years this roster is nowhere near as barren as that roster. Start with QB. Move to anyone playing QB. OL etc. Funny how we can always credit who we want for 8-8. Idzik, sure. Geno? LOL, no way. Maccagnan drafted Sam Darnold. That trumps basically any move that Idzik made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Watkins is a great example why you don’t sign guys that are injury prone. He’s had one good season that was cut short by injury, a solid rookie season and the rest are sh*t. If he stayed healthy he’d be a good receiver but he can’t so it’s a waste of cap and roster space. So where is this magical WR we are gonna find to replace Q? Do you have a tree that grows one? One that’s gonna be better and gonna cost less? Its easy to sit there and bitch about stuff without offering reasonable and viable alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Maccagnan drafted Sam Darnold. That trumps basically any move that Idzik made. Wait, getting a FQB is important? But Sam only has won 4 games, Geno Smith won 8. You did read that, didnt you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Watkins is a great example why you don’t sign guys that are injury prone. He’s had one good season that was cut short by injury, a solid rookie season and the rest are sh*t. If he stayed healthy he’d be a good receiver but he can’t so it’s a waste of cap and roster space. And there are tons of players who after going through a couple of injuries come back and are productive. Using one example of anything is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Wait, getting a FQB is important? But Sam only has won 4 games, Geno Smith won 8. You did read that, didnt you? @Sperm Edwards and @Beerfish are the two posters who hate Maccagnan obsessively and give him no credit for anything at all, seemingly. Others on here are more balanced. They hate Maccagnan. but give him credit when he does things to their liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Love Q. But the best ability is reliability, especially for a young QB. I assume they tender Robby. I wonder what that means in terms of new WRs on the horizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, JiF said: Love Q. But the best ability is reliability, especially for a young QB. I assume they tender Robby. I wonder what that means in terms of new WRs on the horizon Props to Idz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 We were never gonna not keep him. It was either 1. sign him on a one year 6 million deal. Which would be good but short sighted, given that a good year next year would earn him 13M a year afterwards.. 2. take a shot on a long term deal that could be a big bargain if he stays healthy and produces or could be meh if he gets hurt, but not a big guaranteed investment. Both sides win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, JiF said: Love Q. But the best ability is reliability, especially for a young QB. I assume they tender Robby. I wonder what that means in terms of new WRs on the horizon I also think that the concept of "#1 receivers" are changing I look at some teams and they really dont have prototypical #1's. Chiefs- Tyreek Hill Packers- Randall Cobb? Bears- Taylor Gabriel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: @Sperm Edwards and @Beerfish are the two posters who hate Maccagnan obsessively and give him no credit for anything at all, seemingly. Others on here are more balanced. They hate Maccagnan. but give him credit when he does things to their liking. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, rangerous said: you gotta love the way enunwa plays but the guy hasn't played a full season forever. 36 m over 4 years is near no.1 receiver pay. here's to hoping he can stay on the field. 36 million over 4 years is laughably far away from what true No. 1 WRs make these days. 9 million per year is a beautiful deal for a guy like Quincy. It's an absolute steal if the new offense and a leap from Sam has him looking like the guy from 2016 again, especially if all of that has him playing even better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I also think that the concept of "#1 receivers" are changing I look at some teams and they really dont have prototypical #1's. Chiefs- Tyreek Hill Packers- Randall Cobb? Bears- Taylor Gabriel? Packers #1 is Davante Adams BEAST 111 receptions 1386 yards 13 TD's so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Packers #1 is Davante Adams BEAST Ah. When he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, rangerous said: maybe but it also shows how skewed the nfl is getting. a wr, who may get 10 touches per game, is getting money nearly rivaling that of a qb who will have maybe 60 touches per game and more than a running back who will get maybe 22-25 touches. and please don't say guys like odell beckham or hopkins are such great down field blockers that they are needed on run plays. The market is the market whether you agree with it or not. People are saying the Jets overpaid which is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Ah. When he plays 111 receptions 1386 yards 13 TD's so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: So where is this magical WR we are gonna find to replace Q? Do you have a tree that grows one? One that’s gonna be better and gonna cost less? Its easy to sit there and bitch about stuff without offering reasonable and viable alternatives. I’m sure they can find a WR in the draft or FA that averages 300 yards and one TD a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: 111 receptions 1386 yards 13 TD's so far this season. Apparently he does quite well when he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And there are tons of players who after going through a couple of injuries come back and are productive. Using one example of anything is pointless Then the original post was pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: I’m sure they can find a WR in the draft or FA that averages 300 yards and one TD a year. Are you sure? The ones they have drafted so far haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 minute ago, jetfan39 said: Apparently he does quite well when he plays I thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Reynolds1029 said: Do you have stats to back this claim up? Yes, they've been posted numerous times in this forum: On 12/27/2018 at 2:20 PM, sec101row23 said: It’s not pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And there are tons of players who after going through a couple of injuries come back and are productive. Using one example of anything is pointless you also gotta think the jets know more about his injuries than anybody and still thought he was worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, choon328 said: The market is the market whether you agree with it or not. People are saying the Jets overpaid which is not the case. it's a bargain if he stays on the field. no disputing his talent but he gets injured a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeangreenkillingmachine Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Nice deal for enunwa. One concussion will be worth 20mil. The guy is such a freakish beast, but unfortunately his bones areade of glass. I hope the best for him and that all these past injuries were flukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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