Gas2No99 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer A few thoughts on Quincy Enunwa's four-year, $36 million extension: 1. Good move by the Jets. Enunwa was their No. 1 free-agent priority. 2. The Jets have their top two receivers, Robby Anderson and Enunwa, under control for 2019. They need another. 3. Enunwa passed up a chance to test the open market because he was concerned about how recent injuries would affect his value and because he really wanted to stay a Jet. 4. The Sam Darnold factor played a role. Enunwa sees a bright future with the young QB. 5. It appears to be business as usual for the front office, which bodes well for GM Mike Maccagnan. 1h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said: Good one, Quincy. Happy for him. GTFO, Maccagnan. Only you would agree this deal. Massive over pay. 2 Anyone who thinks the Jets overpaid Enunwa really needs to take a look at what NFL WRs are getting paid: https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 OK.. With some further thought, this isn’t too big of a deal. At first I was aggravated at the guaranteed $$ but then I remembered we have nearly 108 million in cap and the least amount of money committed to our roster in the entire NFL. I did want Enunwa back, I did think that continuity between Sam and his favorite weapons were very important and I do think that Robby should be retained for these same reasons. I’m a believer that just because you have money, it doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to throw money around with a blind fold on but if what some posters are saying about the injury guarantees and signing bonus being tied into each other is correct, this definitely isn’t something to be throw a fit about as I initially felt like doing. Hopefully Q can stay healthy and he’ll come back healed/ready to go. At least that’s one guy signed on the books for next season. I can’t even trip about this. It’s a little over what I expected him to be paid but again... 107 mill and basically no players guaranteed thru 2020 aside from Trumaine Johnson.(Now that’s something i’ll be mad about for a long time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, slats said: Anyone who thinks the Jets overpaid Enunwa really needs to take a look at what NFL WRs are getting paid: https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/ I think there is warranted sticker shock when you first look at the numbers, but the market has been inflating salaries every year to ridiculous amounts ALONG with the Salary Cap continuing to increase on an annual basis. They HAD to spend the money and while it's possibly overpaying due to durability concerns, the Jets will GROSSLY have to overpay to bring in at least 2 more UFA WRs into the fold and those signings (along with the REST of the FA market in March '19) will make Enunwa's deal seem like a much better value in retrospect - so let's let this simmer for 3-4 months to PROPERLY judge if Mac correctly gaged the FA market for WRs. There's a dearth of WR FA talent in '19 and Mac - like he did LAST year w/extending Briana Winters last year - is jumping the market and increasing salary to RETAIN players BUT it will still come out CHEAPER than what the Jets WILL have to spend on FAs in March '19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/12/28/source-new-york-jets-wr-quincy-enunwa-agree-to-four-year-extension/ax7hh18/ Enunwa has agreed to a four-year extension worth a maximum value of $36 million. The deal also includes an injury guarantee worth slightly more than $20 million. this is nonsense. He never plays and he has not really given them that much. I like him, but he should be a business decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just imagine if this team had extended Rex or Sanchez. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, jack48 said: this is nonsense. He never plays and he has not really given them that much. I like him, but he should be a business decision it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: OK.. With some further thought, this isn’t too big of a deal. At first I was aggravated at the guaranteed $$ but then I remembered we have nearly 108 million in cap and the least amount of money committed to our roster in the entire NFL. I did want Enunwa back, I did think that continuity between Sam and his favorite weapons were very important and I do think that Robby should be retained for these same reasons. I’m a believer that just because you have money, it doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to throw money around with a blind fold on but if what some posters are saying about the injury guarantees and signing bonus being tied into each other is correct, this definitely isn’t something to be throw a fit about as I initially felt like doing. Hopefully Q can stay healthy and he’ll come back healed/ready to go. At least that’s one guy signed on the books for next season. I can’t even trip about this. It’s a little over what I expected him to be paid but again... 107 mill and basically no players guaranteed thru 2020 aside from Trumaine Johnson.(Now that’s something i’ll be mad about for a long time.) he is never healthy, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Its ok as long as the Jets take a reciever in this draft. Best case scenario is trade down a few spots and grab the best reciever on the board. Take oline in round 2 and then go rb and reciever w/ our 2 round 3 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Mike135 said: Bowles extension next? Hard to believe an owner would let a GM n coach on the way out begin extending players. It has nothing to do with Bowles. He’s history. The GM isn’t going anywhere - which is not a surprise to anyone who has been reading the tea leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Gas2No99 said: it is. I prefer guys who play games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I don’t love Enunwa. I think he’s overrated as a player by a lot of folks on this board and waaaaay too injury prone, but this also isn’t a lot of money. As long as we draft and sign a WR, I’m fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Crazycarl doesn't understand the salary cap (and growing cap numbers) and thinks 9 million dollars should land us a pro bowl WR. Meanwhile Albert Wilson and Paul Richardson got 8 million a year last year. ALBERT WILSON!!! PAUL RICHARDSON!!! Giving Enunwa 4/36 is a good deal for both sides. Only the SOJF crew that are blinded by their hate for Macc are losing their minds over this signing. Please show me where I complained about the money. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, jack48 said: this is nonsense. He never plays and he has not really given them that much. I like him, but he should be a business decision so you let Enuwa walk and sign whom for how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Didn’t Idzik extend Kerley to a 4 year deal right before he was fired? Can’t remember how soon before the firing the deal was signed. All things Idzik should be considered an anomaly, and are beyond the comprehension and understanding of modern man. Any attempt to fathom his thought processes or actions, should be considered dangerous and could result in an aneurism and or sudden death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Geez I missed a lot today. Wrong day to be busy driving. Anyways, you all know how I feel about Mac but I think this is a reasonable deal. He could have very easily cost $12mil/per(or more) if he kept his production up and stayed healthy. The cap has increased dramatically over the last few years and there aren’t many offensive weapons in FA so he would have gotten a good deal. The injuries were a blessing in disguise but also a real reason to be concerned. We can’t afford to let any good players walk and get weaker when we need to improve our terrible offense. That just wouldn’t make sense and I think this deal took a bit too much good faith on the Jets end but we have bigger problems to worry about and now 1 less problem in the offseason. Either way I’m a big Q fan so it makes me happy as a fan. I’ll worry about the cap when it finally becomes an issue. We can’t get worse on offense. We have to salvage what works at almost all costs because of the position that we are in. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, jack48 said: he is never healthy, though But the signing isn’t that big of a deal. We have a treasure chest full of money and we will plenty next year too. Sam needs Q for continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Did you seriously just compared E never stays Healthy to Julio Jones and ODB??Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure he was referring to injury statusSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, slats said: Anyone who thinks the Jets overpaid Enunwa really needs to take a look at what NFL WRs are getting paid: https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/ True. Marquise Lee signed a 4 year $34 million contract this year. He can make about $1.75 million more in per game roster bonuses and incentives. He’s been injured his whole career as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds1029 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, its about time the worst talent evaluator in the NFL gets even more power. Great news. Do you have stats to back this claim up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So for anyone who didn’t want to extend Q, who should we have signed to replace him? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: So for anyone who didn’t want to extend Q, who should we have signed to replace him? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Yup. Here's a link to another list: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/ Not pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The 5 -10 guys complaining in this thread complain about everything. They can't help themselves. This is a good deal and completely reasonable. If the Jets give Golden ****ing Tate big money THEN we should complain. That would be idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Let’s hope this is the last time we see a WR group like this starting a regular season game. Embarrasssing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pac said: The 5 -10 guys complaining in this thread complain about everything. They can't help themselves. This is a good deal and completely reasonable. If the Jets give Golden ****ing Tate big money THEN we should complain. That would be idiotic. Idzik gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Pac said: The 5 -10 guys complaining in this thread complain about everything. They can't help themselves. This is a good deal and completely reasonable. If the Jets give Golden ****ing Tate big money THEN we should complain. That would be idiotic. Thats true. It just gets annoying. Not long ago fans were worried that we wouldnt be able to retain Enunwa. Now that we signed him to a reasonable contract they want to bitch? The goal is to add talent but also to keep the guys around that Sam has good chemistry with. We have a ton of cap space to fill other needs after quincy and robby are both signed. If you want to be concerned about him staying healthy a full season thats valid but the contract was fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 $20 million guaranteed for injury to a bloke who is guaranteed to be injured is very generous. I wish my bosses were as generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, choon328 said: That statement right there is why some people are mad about this contract. Bc they have no idea what they're talking about. The highest paid WR makes twice the amount Enunwa just got paid yearly. He got #2/#3 WR money, not #1 money. This isn't 2012. maybe but it also shows how skewed the nfl is getting. a wr, who may get 10 touches per game, is getting money nearly rivaling that of a qb who will have maybe 60 touches per game and more than a running back who will get maybe 22-25 touches. and please don't say guys like odell beckham or hopkins are such great down field blockers that they are needed on run plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, rangerous said: maybe but it also shows how skewed the nfl is getting. a wr, who may get 10 touches per game, is getting money nearly rivaling that of a qb who will have maybe 60 touches per game and more than a running back who will get maybe 22-25 touches. and please don't say guys like odell beckham or hopkins are such great down field blockers that they are needed on run plays. They are still needed to serve as a threat even if not being used. Good WRs help open up the run game just by being on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Enes Kanter is making 18.6 Million dollars this year for being decidedly mediocre at basketball. E-n-e-s K-a-n-t-e-r. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: 20 million guaranteed? Yeah I am totally fine with this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Pac said: Slight over payment given the injury history but there is no denying his impact when healthy. When you consider that Sammy Watkins got a 3 year, 48 Mil contract with 30 mil guaranteed this doesn't seem too bad. Enunwa is exactly the kind of guy you want around Darnold which I'm sure played a significant part in the decision. Great post. Agree 100%. On the face of it the $$ look a little high but it's the market rate and in a year or two it may actually look cheap. Enunwa has a rare blend of size, speed and hands. He's almost like a WR in a TE body, kinda reminds me of Anquan Boldin. The point about Darnold is an important one. We need some consistency. With the likely tendering of Robby Anderson and Herndon going into his 2nd season this really guarantees that Darnold will continue to play with at least 3 guys that he's developed some sort of chemistry with. The Jets have the money. I like the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I really like Enunwa as a player. I hope he makes this signing look an absolute bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: I don't think the Jets were going to find a similar WR in FA for a better price. If you think they could, please share who they could potentially get and for what price? We need to surround Darnold with talent - this is a good start. 11 games in the last two years including a serious neck injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 48 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Let’s hope this is the last time we see a WR group like this starting a regular season game. Embarrasssing. Agreed. At the same time I'm interested in seeing how guys like Peake and Burnett look. Those are the kinds of guys vying for a WR5 or WR6 spot next year. Likely Free Agent, Draft Pick, Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa and 1 TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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