Scott Dierking Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 What player would you debate is the best Jet Free agent signing of all time? My quick guess on this without research would be: 1. Kevin Mawae 2. Vinny Testaverde 3. Thomas Jones 4. Curtis Martin (devalued based on what we gave up). Please tell me I am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1.)Curtis Martin 2.)Kevin Mawae 3.)Vinny T 4,)Thomas Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 TJ was a trade with the bears though, right? Seems like so long ago. Great acquisition regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: What player would you debate is the best Jet Free agent signing of all time? My quick guess on this without research would be: 1. Kevin Mawae 2. Vinny Testaverde 3. Thomas Jones 4. Curtis Martin (devalued based on what we gave up). Please tell me I am wrong Parcells, baby. Man could build a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Mawae. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 My cousin Vinny Testaverde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Woody and faneca in recent history for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 By the way if you really want to be sad: Who was the last jets drafted WR to have 1000 yards receiving in a season? The last Jets drafted RB to have a 1000 yards rushing in a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Does Chrebet deserve a mention as an undrafted free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: By the way if you really want to be sad: Who was the last jets drafted WR to have 1000 yards receiving in a season? The last Jets drafted RB to have a 1000 yards rushing in a season? Don't tell me it is Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lith said: Does Chrebet deserve a mention as an undrafted free agent? Yes, but I believe that is a different category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Faneca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Free agent signing? Martin n Jones were trades not free agents no? So I say mawae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: TJ was a trade with the bears though, right? Seems like so long ago. Great acquisition regardless. Forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Parcells, baby. Man could build a franchise. Parcells was a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Forgot about that. Getting TJ was still a really underrated move though. I thought he was great when it mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Parcells was a trade. I was just saying that in general. Whenever something good happens, I say, “Parcells, baby.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: By the way if you really want to be sad: Who was the last jets drafted WR to have 1000 yards receiving in a season? The last Jets drafted RB to have a 1000 yards rushing in a season? I'll go with Laveranues Coles and Adrian Murrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I was just saying that in general. Whenever something good happens, I say, “Parcells, baby.” I agree. IMO, Parcells was the best HC of all time. No matter how pathetic a franchise was when he arrived, he made them winners. The Giants, Patriots, Jets & Cowboys all sucked before he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Vinny T The only time the Jets were respectable in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Reggie White. That happened, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Don't tell me it is Freeman 4 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I'll go with Laveranues Coles and Adrian Murrell. I could be wrong but i believe it was cotchery 2007 and shonn greene 2012. Pretty depressing though if you consider the receiver is almost 12 years ago at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I agree. IMO, Parcells was the best HC of all time. No matter how pathetic a franchise was when he arrived, he made them winners. The Giants, Patriots, Jets & Cowboys all sucked before he arrived. This is our post of the year, friends. There are no other contenders. Maxman, mount this immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I could be wrong but i believe it was cotchery 2007 and shonn greene 2012. Pretty depressing though if you consider the receiver is almost 12 years ago at this point. Clearly, my memory is a pessimist. Forgot that Cotch went over 1000, and had completely forgotten the existence of Shonn Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The issue with free agency is they sign 4-5 year deal with 2 years of production and the remainder complaints of over paying. In the case of Mawae may have been an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rolloffjet said: Free agent signing? Martin n Jones were trades not free agents no? So I say mawae. Not quite. Martin was absolutely a FA signing. He was a RFA though so we had to give NE draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Clearly, my memory is a pessimist. Forgot that Cotch went over 1000, and had completely forgotten the existence of Shonn Greene. Can’t blame you, cotch did it once on his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: By the way if you really want to be sad: Who was the last jets drafted WR to have 1000 yards receiving in a season? The last Jets drafted RB to have a 1000 yards rushing in a season? Not that fair a question for the simple reason the Jets have pretty much stayed away from drafting Offense for around the last 30 years until Sammy. Mark Sanchez doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Curtis Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Parcells, baby. Man could build a franchise. Not sure i agree with this. i think he was really good at identifying a franchise with underutilized talent, was able move in and get them to 10-6 pretty quick with draft position (#1 overall) simply by replacing very weak coaching with competent coaching. Not sure how good he was at closing out the deal.. Here is the 1996 roster (bolding my own). It was criminal for Kotite to go 1-15 with these guys. ayer | Team Total 72 David Alexander 20 Richie Anderson 85 Henry Bailey 84 Fred Baxter 58 Aubrey Beavers 69 Harry Boatswain 88 Kyle Brady 94 Matt Brock 26 Ron Carpenter 53 Chad Cascadden 71 Mike Chalenski 80 Wayne Chrebet 59 Kyle Clifton 28 Reggie Cobb 42 Marcus Coleman 27 Lou D'Agostino 83 Tyrone Davis 99 Hugh Douglas 62 Roger Duffy 76 Jumbo Elliott 38 Kwame Ellis 96 Jeff Faulkner 4 Glenn Foley 64 Harry Galbreath 31 Aaron Glenn 81 Jeff Graham 21 Victor Green 22 Carl Greenwood 98 Mark Gunn 92 Bobby Hamilton 56 Rick Hamilton 11 Brian Hansen 79 Melvin Hayes 55 Bobby Houston 74 Erik Howard 65 John Hudson 19 Keyshawn Johnson 25 Gary Jones 54 Marvin Jones 95 Brad Keeney 57 Mo Lewis 8 Nick Lowery 75 Siupeli Malamala 32 Sherriden May 24 Ray Mickens 33 Ronald Moore Adrian Murrell 29 14 Neil O'Donnell 70 Matt O'Dwyer 77 James Parrish 7 Frank Reich 89 Phillip Riley 5 Don Silvestri 87 Webster Slaughter 45 Otis Smith (was gonna bold this one to see if I could induce a reaction) 93 Marc Spindler 86 Alex Van Dyke 97 Marvin Washington 91 Brent Williams 73 David Williams 44 Lonnie Young 23 Eric Zomalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, EM31 said: Not sure i agree with this. i think he was really good at identifying a franchise with underutilized talent, was able move in and get them to 10-6 pretty quick with draft position (#1 overall) simply by replacing very weak coaching with competent coaching. I don’t have the exact numbers handy, but I once charted the records of teams Parcells took over before he shows up and after he leaves it. The aggregate was, in the three years prior to his arrival, those teams won at at 35% clip. The three years post-Parcells, they won at a 65% clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: I don’t have the exact numbers handy, but I once charted the records of teams Parcells took over before he shows up and after he leaves it. The aggregate was, in the three years prior to his arrival, those teams won at at 35% clip. The three years post-Parcells, they won at a 65% clip. As I said he was very good at identifying good situations in which to land. All i am saying is that at least some of this is akin to a football version of a dead cat bounce. He inherited quite of bit of talent, full control and the #1 overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The jets wing of the HOF Ronnie Lott Steve Atwater Brett Favre Art monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, EM31 said: As I said he was very good at identifying good situations in which to land. All i am saying is that at least some of this is akin to a football version of a dead cat bounce. He inherited quite of bit of talent, full control and the #1 overall pick. The New York Jets job, after Rich Kotite, was a “good situation”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The New York Jets job, after Rich Kotite, was a “good situation”? Are you kidding me? good/great WR tandem (Keyshawn, Chrebet) good/great linebackers (Jones, Lewis, Clifton) strong front end Corners (Mickens and Glenn) decent DL pass rush in Hugh Douglas and Marvin Washington.... Just look at the (cleaned up) roster I posted and tell me that was a 1-15 team. and the #1 overall pick and.... a 1-15 record which served to lower expectations everywhere. What part of that is not a good/great situation in which to land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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