Philc1 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, GREENBEAN said: We need O line. I would love a trade back to get more picks especially a 2nd rdr, but if we only have one pick in the 1st round and Jonah Williams is your highest rated OL guy, you take him at 3. If he's ok to pick at 6-10, he's fine to take at 3. This value stuff gets way too much press man. I understand it if all things are equal you go for the value, but when you NEED OL and only have one chance to get one in the first, you take him when you pick. Waiting until the 3rd round to address the OL because its 4-5 picks too early to pick someone you like is utter ridiculousness IMO. The only way I think otherwise is if you're going for the highest rated WR. That's it. This nonsense about taking a DT with our first pick because of the value is maddening. I would be incredibly disappointed if we actually committed that travesty. Even going OL with the first 3 picks would be fine by me. We don't need anything more! Sign Matt Paradis, Trent Brown and Jamon Brown. Top 10 OL Voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Sign Matt Paradis, Trent Brown and Jamon Brown. Top 10 OL Voila! Easy peasy lemon squeezey. I'm way into signing Paradis! Trent Brown is too tall for my liking lol Hey, if we can pull off signing the OL guys in FA, then we are talking about a different story of course. Then I would apply my extremely sound logic to the WR position. Nkeal Harry would be a beast for Sam Darnold. I read somewhere that he may last until the 2nd. oh well. AJ Brown seems like he will translate to the NFL well. I'll have to defer to others here on the specific guys as I'm no college scout. I do not want another De lineman to be our first pick. I want Offense no matter what. That's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 How can we be against LeVeon Bell, Antonio Brown and others because of character issues, yet be for bringing Jalen Ramsey here. Cancer is Cancer, it doesn't matter what kind it is. Just say NO! That being said, TRADE DOWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 12:40 PM, Philc1 said: Trade the 3 pick to the giants for their first round pick plus Olivier Vernon Giants can draft Haskins Jets can draft Jonah at 6 and get an actual pass rusher in Vernon Everyone wins. won't happen. thats stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 2:21 PM, nycdan said: Swap 1st plus get Ramsey and a 3rd from JAX? Then draft Jonah Williams, a WR or a pass rusher at 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Gee, if only there were some precedent in the league for teams swapping 1st round picks and the lower team using both picks and players to make up the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Derrick Baity 6' 3" CB Kentucky ..... j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, GREENBEAN said: Then I would apply my extremely sound logic to the WR position. Nkeal Harry would be a beast for Sam Darnold. I read somewhere that he may last until the 2nd. oh well. AJ Brown seems like he will translate to the NFL well. I'll have to defer to others here on the specific guys as I'm no college scout. I do not want another De lineman to be our first pick. I want Offense no matter what. That's how I see it. I think AJ Brown is going to be an awesome pro. I've seen Ole Miss play maybe 5-6 times over the past couple of seasons and AJ Brown always stands out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I think AJ Brown is going to be an awesome pro. I've seen Ole Miss play maybe 5-6 times over the past couple of seasons and AJ Brown always stands out to me. There’s 3 WRs from Old Miss in the draft rated in the first 3/4 rounds and 2 of them in the first. Are they that good or is it a system thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, New York Mick said: There’s 3 WRs from Old Miss in the draft rated in the first 3/4 rounds and 2 of them in the first. Are they that good or is it a system thing? I don't love Lodge or Metcalf (sp?) because I think they lived off of AJ Brown getting double teamed all of the time. IMO, Brown is virtually can't miss. He's not an elite physical prospect, but he's just one of those guys who is always open. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I don't love Lodge or Metcalf (sp?) because I think they lived off of AJ Brown getting double teamed all of the time. IMO, Brown is virtually can't miss. He's not an elite physical prospect, but he's just one of those guys who is always open. . Brown definitely led that team but he’s not real fast or tall so it’s going to be interesting where he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Brown definitely led that team but he’s not real fast or tall so it’s going to be interesting where he goes. Totally agree. He's not the prototypical physical specimen that the NFL looks for. But, he just feels like a player to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: I think AJ Brown is going to be an awesome pro. I've seen Ole Miss play maybe 5-6 times over the past couple of seasons and AJ Brown always stands out to me. I'm seeing some stuff about him maybe not being as much of a sure thing as some others. All the talent but he could flop. I don't remember why at the moment, but remember reading something like that. You think he's a slam dunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I'm seeing some stuff about him maybe not being as much of a sure thing as some others. All the talent but he could flop. I don't remember why at the moment, but remember reading something like that. You think he's a slam dunk? From watching him play, I think he's a terrific WR who has very good instincts for the position. He feels like a third down conversion waiting to happen. Now, I've been wrong about plenty of players, so I'm not guaranteeing anything. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I'm seeing some stuff about him maybe not being as much of a sure thing as some others. All the talent but he could flop. I don't remember why at the moment, but remember reading something like that. He doesn't have prototypical size or speed. I don't think he's going to 'wow' anyone, physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I'm seeing some stuff about him maybe not being as much of a sure thing as some others. All the talent but he could flop. I don't remember why at the moment, but remember reading something like that. You think he's a slam dunk? His biggest knock seems to be his height (plays small), speed, yac and doesn’t jump well but he played a lot of slot and was a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Since Gregg Williams is now official and he’s run a base 4 man front literally everywhere he’s been a DC...go get Quinnen Williams/Ed Oliver if Bosa is gone. Seriously. Everyone should be a lot more open to an interior DL at this point since we won’t be playing them out of position as a 5-tech 3-4 end. Both of those guys have all-pro potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Since Gregg Williams is now official and he’s run a base 4 man front literally everywhere he’s been a DC...go get Quinnen Williams/Ed Oliver if Bosa is gone. Seriously. Everyone should be a lot more open to an interior DL at this point since we won’t be playing them out of position as a 5-tech 3-4 end. Both of those guys have all-pro potential. They need to trade down and pick up a second rounder (plus) then draft an OL then DL. This draft has a strong DL class and protecting Darnold is still the most important thing. If they can’t trade down then Johan, Greedy then DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, New York Mick said: They need to trade down and pick up a second rounder (plus) then draft an OL then DL. This draft has a strong DL class and protecting Darnold is still the most important thing. If they can’t trade down then Johan, Greedy then DL. I’m pretty sure just about everyone would prefer to trade down, but that’s easier said than done. I’m not nearly as sold as everyone else on someone wanting to move up for a guy like Haskins, much less 5’9 Kyler Murray. Especially since we could see a slew of veteran QB’s hit the open market. The Jets aren’t taking a guy like Jonah Williams at #3. It just isn’t happening even though I’d personally have zero issues with it. If we’re stuck at #3 and Bosa is gone, then I’m taking Williams/Oliver. Especially since we’re now running a scheme and have a coach that will maximize their strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I’m pretty sure just about everyone would prefer to trade down, but that’s easier said than done. I’m not nearly as sold as everyone else on someone wanting to move up for a guys like Haskins, much less 5’9 Kyler Murray. Especially since we could see a slew of veteran QB’s hit the open market. The Jets aren’t taking a guy like Jonah Williams at #3. It just isn’t happening even though I’d personally have zero issues with it. If we’re stuck at #3 and Bosa is gone, then I’m taking Williams/Oliver. Especially since we’re now running a scheme and have a coach that will maximize their strengths. I don’t think Murray will change much at the top he’s too damn little. No matter who the D coach is I hope the worry about they offense first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Shell won't need rehab. His injury was not as bad as they first thought. He only required 6 weeks rest, no surgery.Jonah Williams is also not worth a top 5 pick talent wise I like the pick. You can start him at RT while Shell rehabs. I have a feeling that there will be a big dropoff in OL talent past round one. I doubt we will have many options in FA at LT so why not get someone who can play both sides.Sent from my Pixel 2 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Wouldn’t it be crazy if the team fell in love with Bosa and traded up for him?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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