BikerTed Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 A bag of money and a night with Woodys wife ought to get r done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, kmnj said: nobody will want to come work for a guy that built one of the worst rosters in football and a lame duck gm typical jets only getting it half right which means getting it all wrong I am done with the Jets-paid psls going up for sale and if they dont sell I am walking way from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Also, I don’t buy that Macc is a lame duck GM. If you’re going to keep him, then you might as well give him another 2 year extension and fully commit. I know that’s horrifying to some, but it’s really the best course if he’s sticking around. Indeed. Because of the way the Jets handled this, the best decision is now to extend the NFLs worst GM. That’s where we’re at as a franchise. Go Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said: Thinking objectively, I would take the jets over those 2 teams. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Objectively, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: Indeed. Because of the way the Jets handled this, the best decision is now to extend the NFLs worst GM. That’s where we’re at as a franchise. Go Jets. I definitely can’t say I’m fond of it, but we might as well. Just have to hope that he’s learned from past mistakes and starts drafting more like 2018 instead of 2015-2017. If there’s any bright spot, at least I think he’ll start investing heavily in the offense knowing how much he has invested in Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Right and the majority here wanted to fire the GM as well which would have made it so much harder to compete right away with other teams. It would mean Chris Johnson would have to make the decision to find a GM first and then go find a HC. Do you all think that was better . Hiring a team.president and letting him do the GM and coach hiring would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I definitely can’t say I’m fond of it, but we might as well. Just have to hope that he’s learned from past mistakes and starts drafting more like 2018 instead of 2015-2017. If there’s any bright spot, at least I think he’ll start investing heavily in the offense knowing how much he has invested in Darnold. He’s been a talent evaluator for a very long time - explain to me what the change he makes is... Suddenly, he learned what good players look like, and he’s going to start taking them, instead of guys who can’t even hang around the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: Hiring a team.president and letting him do the GM and coach hiring would be best. Yeah and that will take what 2 months. By then all of the vacancies will be filled and the Jets will be stuck with someone like Jack Del Rio. They did the right thing keeping Mac , now its time to help Sam grow, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Yeah and that will take what 2 months. By then all of the vacancies will be filled and the Jets will be stuck with someone like Jack Del Rio. They did the right thing keeping Mac , now its time to help Sam grow, I don't care how long it takes. It's the right way to do it. Shortcuts are for losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I don't care how long it takes. It's the right way to do it. Shortcuts are for losers. Timing is everything in this business , the Jets have missed that boat many times - let's not do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Timing is everything in this business , the Jets have missed that boat many times - let's not do it again. We keep repeating the same mistakes. It's time to start doing things right. The Johnsons need to hire a football guy as president and take themselves out of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, TeddEY said: He’s been a talent evaluator for a very long time - explain to me what the change he makes is... Suddenly, he learned what good players look like, and he’s going to start taking them, instead of guys who can’t even hang around the league? That sure seems like what he did with Darnold and Herndon. People can say Darnold fell into Macc’s lap all they want, but he still showed the balls to trade up to #3 to even make it a remote possibility. If we simply stayed at #6, we’d be staring down the double barreled, sh*t machine gun of Allen/Rosen for the foreseeable future. The guy is far from a great GM, but he sure as hell isn’t some Matt Millen level disaster like so many make him out to be. Which I’m convinced it mostly based on the Hackenberg whiff. I still would’ve preferred moving on, but it is what it is. You can either sit around bitching about it all the live long day, or accept it, move on and hope for the best. I choose the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Exactly. Promising franchise QB, #3 overall Draft pick, $100M in Cap space, Tom Brady heading into his final season or two with no other team ready to ascend in the AFC East......this job is very, very appealing to anyone who knows what the f**k he's doing. You left out Mac is still the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Untouchable said: That sure seems like what he did with Darnold and Herndon. People can say Darnold fell into Macc’s lap all they want, but he still showed the balls to trade up to #3 to even make it a remote possibility. If we simply stayed at #6, we’d be staring down the double barreled, sh*t machine gun of Allen/Rosen for the foreseeable future. The guy is far from a great GM, but he sure as hell isn’t some Matt Millen level disaster like so many make him out to be. Which I’m convinced it mostly based on the Hackenberg whiff. I still would’ve preferred moving on, but it is what it is. You can either sit around bitching about it all the live long day, or accept it, move on and hope for the best. I choose the latter Darnold was an easy, obvious pick. Herndon may be Mac’s first actual good pick. We easily could have been staring at Allen/Rosen at 3, also. If Macc wanted to be sure, he needed to go to 1. So, it is luck that we don’t have one of those two guys. Don’t buy that, ask yourself, if you’re the Giants GM, who do you take at 2? Every Giants fan I know says the same thing... Sam Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Darnold was an easy, obvious pick. Herndon may be Mac’s first actual good pick. We easily could have been staring at Allen/Rosen at 3, also. If Macc wanted to be sure, he needed to go to 1. So, it is luck that we don’t have one of those two guys. Don’t buy that, ask yourself, if you’re the Giants GM, who do you take at 2? Every Giants fan I know says the same thing... Sam Darnold. You can chalk it up to luck or whatever...bottom line is Darnold isn’t a Jet unless Macc makes the move to #3. Numerous reports came out that Darnold was the only QB that Elway wanted in Denver. When he was gone, they went with Chubb. And I’ve come across plenty of Giants fans who defend the Barkley pick tooth and nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Can’t the new coach be in control of the draft and FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, kmnj said: nobody will want to come work for a guy that built one of the worst rosters in football and a lame duck gm typical jets only getting it half right which means getting it all wrong I am done with the Jets-paid psls going up for sale and if they dont sell I am walking way from them I think you may be underestimating the powerful allure of fresh new uniforms man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: Can’t the new coach be in control of the draft and FA? If we get Harbaugh that will be likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Darnold was an easy, obvious pick. Herndon may be Mac’s first actual good pick. We easily could have been staring at Allen/Rosen at 3, also. If Macc wanted to be sure, he needed to go to 1. So, it is luck that we don’t have one of those two guys. Don’t buy that, ask yourself, if you’re the Giants GM, who do you take at 2? Every Giants fan I know says the same thing... Sam Darnold. You keep saying this . But you can play the what if game with any other pick or trade that's made over the past 4 years . what if they kept and paid Mo and Sheldon , what if they extended Fitz for two more years. Trades and cap space he cleared set him up with capital to make the trade up to 3. What if he stayed at 6 and took Allen , would that have been better ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Grandy said: If we get Harbaugh that will be likely. We are not getting a Harbaugh !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, kmnj said: nobody will want to come work for a guy that built one of the worst rosters in football and a lame duck gm typical jets only getting it half right which means getting it all wrong I am done with the Jets-paid psls going up for sale and if they dont sell I am walking way from them Why not just wait and see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 36 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: We keep repeating the same mistakes. It's time to start doing things right. The Johnsons need to hire a football guy as president and take themselves out of the equation. Not happening until they either die or sell the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: We are not getting a Harbaugh !!!! Jim Harbaugh isn’t a pipe dream he’s a delusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: You keep saying this . But you can play the what if game with any other pick or trade that's made over the past 4 years . what if they kept and paid Mo and Sheldon , what if they extended Fitz for two more years. Trades and cap space he cleared set him up with capital to make the trade up to 3. What if he stayed at 6 and took Allen , would that have been better ?? I keep saying it because it remains the truth, whether you get it or not. No other trade is relevant, only this one, so I’m not sure why you bring them up. The point is, if you want to be sure, you must go to 1. This isn’t rocket science. Macc moved up to 3. Mayfield and Darnold both could easily have been gone and he was obviously okay with that. He made a move that guaranteed him a QB, no Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I keep saying it because it remains the truth, whether you get it or not. No other trade is relevant, only this one, so I’m not sure why you bring them up. The point is, if you want to be sure, you must go to 1. This isn’t rocket science. Macc moved up to 3. Mayfield and Darnold both could easily have been gone and he was obviously okay with that. He made a move that guaranteed him a QB, no Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. We were getting a QB - whether it was Mayfield, Sam or whoever they had rated 3rd . He traded up to insure that . What don't you understand. The Jets needed a QB a nd we were getting one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, kmnj said: terrible talent and terrible gm-when you hit on one player a year it will take you a 100 years to be decent... 53 man roster. 10 on the PS. Darnold and Adams so it will only take 61 years using your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I keep saying it because it remains the truth, whether you get it or not. No other trade is relevant, only this one, so I’m not sure why you bring them up. The point is, if you want to be sure, you must go to 1. This isn’t rocket science. Macc moved up to 3. Mayfield and Darnold both could easily have been gone and he was obviously okay with that. He made a move that guaranteed him a QB, no Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. I think I prefer dealing with reality but you're disaster scenario is kinda scary I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Pac said: I think I prefer dealing with reality but you're disaster scenario is kinda scary I guess. *Your. If you’re going to troll, at least be grammatically correct about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 It was the best trade in our history. Sheldon and a number 2 for Sam. Holy sh*t! Let that sink in. And then ... Give some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: *Your. If you’re going to troll, at least be grammatically correct about it Affirmative. Not sure how that was trolling though. Seems to me that scare tactics about what could have happened are more trollish than stating I'll deal with what actually transpired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, JetsYanks13 said: Any potential coach worth a grain of salt, will evaluate the entire situation before accepting a job. That’s common sense. There are only 32 nfl head coaching jobs. Why would a coach not want to take this job? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Because Mac is on short leash, and he or she will get fired along with Mac in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: We were getting a QB - whether it was Mayfield, Sam or whoever they had rated 3rd . He traded up to insure that . What don't you understand. The Jets needed a QB a nd we were getting one . I do understand that. It’s not my point. Try and keep up. Would you have been as happy with Allen/Rosen as you are with Darnold. If not, understand that the Gettleman, not Macc, is the reason you are happy with the Jets QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Pac said: Affirmative. Not sure how that was trolling though. Seems to me that scare tactics about what could have happened are more trollish than stating I'll deal with what happened. Nah dude. We see your game. You’re on some solo troll quest to be the guy who does Dunkin runs for a GM who has 24 wins in 4 years. But keep doin’ you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Pac said: I think I prefer dealing with reality but you're disaster scenario is kinda scary I guess. Reality is we have Darnold. Reality is that is because of Gettleman, not Maccagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, TeddEY said: I do understand that. It’s not my point. Try and keep up. Would you have been as happy with Allen/Rosen as you are with Darnold. If not, understand that the Gettleman, not Macc, is the reason you are happy with the Jets QB situation. I'll admit I actually wanted Allen so yes I would have been ok with him, I wasn't crazy about Rosen though. My fear with Sam and with Rosen was playing in the NOrtheastweather being Cali QB's . Its why I liked Allen he was built for this environment. Would I swap now probably not but Allen has played pretty well for the Bills this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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