Grandy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Uhh an odd move but I think I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Gruden gets last say on personnel decisions I heard. How is he a GM then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 A year from now Woody will hire Todd McShay to be the Jets GM. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I want Kiper. "The Jets clearly have no idea what the draft is all about." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I knew he was interviewed but surprised he was hired. Yeah this will be chucksy show for sure but I like seeing things like this to see how he will do. People love to shi* all over guys like Mayock and what's his face with the hair (kiper) for being second guessing commentators but I am sure both would have done better than macacagnan the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I knew he was interviewed but surprised he was hired. Yeah this will be chucksy show for sure but I like seeing things like this to see how he will do. People love to shi* all over guys like Mayock and what's his face with the hair (kiper) for being second guessing commentators but I am sure both would have done better than macacagnan the last 4 years. For PR/viewing reasons they're both in positions where they have to say what they like about virtually every prospect. Certainly in the first few rounds. But they drop less direct hints at what they're really thinking - i.e. players they personally wouldn't touch themselves - by giving backhanded praise like, "While he has the arm [or speed or size or even athleticism] you like to see at the position, I think so far he's a bit of a project. But if he can ever put it together boy you've got a helluva player who could start for 10 years." Then you wonder how much either is instructed to lay off the top prospects a bit to keep the excitement up. I'll say this -- it's clear from his comments at the times that he wouldn't have put his own job on the line by drafting (or recommending to draft) Geno or Hackenberg, lol. Not with anything more than a late round pick where it's not even news if/when they get cut, but if they pan out he'd look super smart and stuff. At the same time, if you believe he believed every word he was saying, he'd have had the Raiders run to the podium for Jamarcus Russell before anyone could make a good offer. So there's that, too. Know what I like about this hire (other than his celebrity, and supposed expertise specifically in the draft if you could find out what he really thought of a lot of these players)? Look at all the picks the Raiders accumulated this year from Gruden's fire sales -- high picks at that (3 in round 1 this year alone). You want to use them right instead of listening to one guy in the corner who's got a feeling? Then in terms of consultants you go for the gold and don't pussyfoot around with Charley Casserly's scared, risk-averse, former pissboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He will prove to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than MAC IMO!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Grandy said: Uhh an odd move but I think I like it. as many of us have said here, the jets could have drafted better by just following the rankings on NFL.com... so maybe the raiders are looking at it the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Dude knows football. Good for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I knew he was interviewed but surprised he was hired. Yeah this will be chucksy show for sure but I like seeing things like this to see how he will do. People love to shi* all over guys like Mayock and what's his face with the hair (kiper) for being second guessing commentators but I am sure both would have done better than macacagnan the last 4 years. One would hope the bar should be set a little higher than that for GM hires, otherwise we're talking about an excessively large pool of candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Good hire in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: He will prove to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than MAC IMO!!!!!!!!!! A monkey with darts is better than Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 wow........just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Hmm. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 certainly doing things their own way... will be interesting to see how this shakes out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Wait, this is real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: For PR/viewing reasons they're both in positions where they have to say what they like about virtually every prospect. Certainly in the first few rounds. But they drop less direct hints at what they're really thinking - i.e. players they personally wouldn't touch themselves - by giving backhanded praise like, "While he has the arm [or speed or size or even athleticism] you like to see at the position, I think so far he's a bit of a project. But if he can ever put it together boy you've got a helluva player who could start for 10 years." Then you wonder how much either is instructed to lay off the top prospects a bit to keep the excitement up. I'll say this -- it's clear from his comments at the times that he wouldn't have put his own job on the line by drafting (or recommending to draft) Geno or Hackenberg, lol. Not with anything more than a late round pick where it's not even news if/when they get cut, but if they pan out he'd look super smart and stuff. At the same time, if you believe he believed every word he was saying, he'd have had the Raiders run to the podium for Jamarcus Russell before anyone could make a good offer. So there's that, too. Know what I like about this hire (other than his celebrity, and supposed expertise specifically in the draft if you could find out what he really thought of a lot of these players)? Look at all the picks the Raiders accumulated this year from Gruden's fire sales -- high picks at that (3 in round 1 this year alone). You want to use them right instead of listening to one guy in the corner who's got a feeling? Then in terms of consultants you go for the gold and don't pussyfoot around with Charley Casserly's scared, risk-averse, former pissboy. You think Maccagnan used to walk 1 step behind Casserly with a finger around one of his belt loops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Id rather have Louis Riddick if youre going for an actual GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChiefJets Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Does anyone know where Reggie McKenzie went? I would have loved for the Jets to bring him here in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Cliches and jargon can take you far in life! I could see adding him as a consultant prior to the draft, but is he a deal maker? Probably pissed off every GM in the league at some point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, FTL Jet Fan said: Good hire in my opinion. Agreed. Mayock is the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Mayock gets Draft picks wrong as anyone else. Half the nonsense he spouts at the combine and Draft. The Raiders are an on going disaster. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Well, Gruden and Mayock have one thing in common already.....They've never , as a broadcaster or draft analyst, said anything negative about any player. They love everybody. Should be a fantastic partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Except anytime we draft a player, he would be raving about the player earlier and then a soon as we pick him he just talk about his negatives . Don't think he's much of a Jets fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: A monkey with darts is better than Mac. Here here! @Integrity28 for Jets GM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Here here! @Integrity28 for Jets GM! My man. I won the JN mock draft without having watched college football for about 15 years. I can do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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