Embrace the Suck Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Beinemy has paid his dues. Played in the league a long time and coached in different roles. Is he a leader of men? Will he garrner respect and demand accountability? I want vic fangio here but i would not be opposed to beinemy is he checks the boxes. Has he ever been a HC at any level? Paying ones dues, at least for me, doesn't mean starting at the top with your first HC job. It means proving yourself in the actual position, generally at a lower level, since who hires a rookie for a big stage position. Being a player doesn't make you a coach. Being a coordinator doesn't make you a head coach, as we've seen over and over again. Hell, I just read he doesn't even call the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Nagy was the OC for two years and a QB coach. Pederson was the OC for three years and a QB coach. I’ll gladly take an OC who has had lots of success for multiple years. Bieniemy has one year of OC under his belt and is a running backs coach background. Let’s not pretend these are the same thing. I’m not saying this is our guy, but I’m happy this is where we’re starting with interviews. I don’t believe in retreads for the sake of retreads just because that’s a route we haven’t gone in a long time. You know where else we haven’t gone in a long time? An offensive coordinator. All this talk of learning on the job and such. Look at Nagy and Reich. We’ve just hired guys that are stupid. Just because there’s a learning curve with our sh*tty past coaches doesn’t mean everyone has a learning curve. And Rex, Herm, Bowles, etc. never learned anyway, because as I mentioned, they were stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Not sure if he’s ready for the big chair but he’s def someone we should interview... Off of the Reid coaching tree he might blow us away...OC and DC would be huge for him as a rookie HC and no play calling experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Don’t want I haven’t seen Andy Reid on the sideline without a playcall sheet in his hand since his early days in Green Bay under Holmgren. Fine for an interview to gauge things, but no way I want some offensive coach with little to no play calling experience. He can go the CEO route and hire an OC playcaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Off to a great startSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: There is another issue with him that I forgot to mention. You have to figure the Chiefs will go deep into the playoffs, which means the Jets would have to delay their HC hiring for several weeks if they really want him. That could be risky, so risky that I doubt that would happen. They would end up in a situation like the Colts and McDaniels last year. They came to an agreement for McDaniels to become the HC when the Pats season was over. McDaniels even went out and hired some assistants who signed contracts and got a head start on the job. Then McDaniels weaseled out. I doubt someone like Beinemy would do that....so all in all....I don't think the Chiefs making a big run would be a huge hindrance. They could get him to agree and then start the work for next season while he's with the KC playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 36 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Don’t want I haven’t seen Andy Reid on the sideline without a playcall sheet in his hand since his early days in Green Bay under Holmgren. Fine for an interview to gauge things, but no way I want some offensive coach with little to no play calling experience. Matt Nagy says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, GreenFish said: This much is clear, with the Jets being linked to Jim Harbough, Matt Campbell, and now Eric Bieniemy, the Jets are casting a broad net and leaving no rock unturned. This feels like the QB search from last year. I’m getting more comfortable that we will make a good decision. I think you make a good point about really attempting to extend the coaching search. I have to give you extra credit also. As a 50 plus year Jets fan, I am never able to put the words, “comfortable”, “make”, “good”, “decision”, in the same sentence. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Nagy was the OC for two years and a QB coach. Pederson was the OC for three years and a QB coach. I’ll gladly take an OC who has had lots of success for multiple years. Bieniemy has one year of OC under his belt and is a running backs coach background. Let’s not pretend these are the same thing. Anthony Lynn says hello to you sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, choon328 said: Matt Nagy says hello And didn’t that Doug Peterson guy win a super bowl or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 At least we can call him Eric the Enemy if he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, choon328 said: Anthony Lynn says hello to you sir Anthony Lynn was an interim head coach and associate head coach in multiple places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I want a former HC but if they go the coordinator route again, it should be a guy like him who comes from a good coaching tree.Bowles came from a good coaching treeSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, sourceworx said: The hot coordinator du jour. Again. Wonderful. Really, they shouldnt interview any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Untouchable said: At least we can call him Eric the Enemy if he sucks. Planning ahead, I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, bealeb319 said: Bowles came from a good coaching tree Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app And because he didnt work out we should never, ever interview someone who comes from a good coaching tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 And because he didnt work out we should never, ever interview someone who comes from a good coaching tree. Not what I meant but we should be a bit selective and not hire the first guy in right awaySent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Gotta be honest, with Darnold here I'd prefer a guy with more of a background of working with QBs. Bienemy's experience is mainly as a running backs coach, and he was a running back in his playing career. I like the background in the Reid system, but other that that I don't see much here for Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, choon328 said: Anthony Lynn says hello to you sir Key difference: Lynn walked into a situation where he had a veteran QB who already knows everything there is to know about the position. This is not the case with the Jets job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, KRL said: Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet FollowFollow @RapSheet More Source: The #Jets have put in a request to interview #Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy. Makes a lot of sense, given his success and how the Andy Reid tree has done. God...Please NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And because he didnt work out we should never, ever interview someone who comes from a good coaching tree. I bet those terrible coaching trees should really do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: There is another issue with him that I forgot to mention. You have to figure the Chiefs will go deep into the playoffs, which means the Jets would have to delay their HC hiring for several weeks if they really want him. That could be risky, so risky that I doubt that would happen. You agree in principle to take the job and it officially happens when the Chiefs are done. No risk unless hes a dick like McDaniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: And didn’t that Doug Peterson guy win a super bowl or something? Thank you; people can't help themselves with their silliness at times!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Anthony Lynn was an interim head coach and associate head coach in multiple places. Assistant Head Coach is just a title. It means nothing. And he was interim HC for one game. You're reaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Robby would be a fantasy WR1 if this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Not what I meant but we should be a bit selective and not hire the first guy in right away Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app No one is saying hire the first guy, haven read that suggested anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Key difference: Lynn walked into a situation where he had a veteran QB who already knows everything there is to know about the position. This is not the case with the Jets job. You're walking into a place where you have a franchise QB established going into year 2 trending way up and a war chest to put talent around him. That's a pretty good spot to step into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 This would be a disaster he was a mess as Colorado’s OC, they were ranked like 100 in offense when he was there now he gets Reid his coffee for a year and he’s a nfl HC candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Obrien2Toon said: This would be a disaster he was a mess as Colorado’s OC, they were ranked like 100 in offense when he was there now he gets Reid his coffee for a year and he’s a nfl HC candidate Don't be ridiculous. He's been getting Reid's coffee for 6 years now. Feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Macc is BIG GAME HUNTING! 39 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Nagy was the OC for two years and a QB coach. Pederson was the OC for three years and a QB coach. I’ll gladly take an OC who has had lots of success for multiple years. Bieniemy has one year of OC under his belt and is a running backs coach background. Let’s not pretend these are the same thing. 13 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Anthony Lynn was an interim head coach and associate head coach in multiple places. CrazyCarl killin it in this thread. Fine to interview, but he has to absolutely blow me away. He didn't help to choose or develop Patrick/Tyreek/Kelce who are the main reasons for their success this year, and he has a grand total of 17 games as an NFL OC; and it's in Andy's offense with Andy calling all the plays. His resume basically Nagy's & Pederson's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Don't be ridiculous. He's been getting Reid's coffee for 6 years now. Feel better? I figured he was getting Nagy’s coffee prior to this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, Untouchable said: At least we can call him Eric the Enemy if he sucks. Oh he will suck. He looks too much like Todd Bowles too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, IndianaJet said: Smart move....get the Rooney rule interview out of the way and done ASAP, so when you do find the guy you really want, you can pounce. I'm not saying they shouldn't hire EB, just that they need to get the Rooney Rule interview done as quickly as possible. With all of these head coaching vacancies, they're going to have to act fast, when they find a guy they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, Lith said: Background on the offensive side of the ball Coordinator for an innovative offense in KC Part of the Any Reid Coaching tree (like Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson) I would be okay with this. in theory it sounds nice, but it also feels like wandering in a lights-out orgy with a boner and hoping for the best. "what? This Nagy guy is the sh*t?... well, hire his replacement dammit...., also, who ordered lunch?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I have watched a lot of KC football this year and to tell the truth, i don't find anything rhey do on O so creative. They have amazing talent at skill positions that makes them look like geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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