Paradis Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Everyone who's a reputable source says the Jets want to go big game hunting at HC... neither of these two names thus far qualify Contingency plans me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Now they're requesting an interview with Kris Richard. After CJs absurd statement about paying fines for guys that kneel during the Anthem, I'd say theres an agenda in play. How many jets players took a knee during the anthem? How much money in fines did he have to pay out? Whats the agenda in play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Rooney Rule candidate? Or real interest, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Really, they shouldnt interview any of them. Considering the amount of times we've been down this road, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Now they're requesting an interview with Kris Richard. After CJs absurd statement about paying fines for guys that kneel during the Anthem, I'd say theres an agenda in play. Whats the agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 It truly is A jets Black monday so far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 So does this mean we’re sleeping with Bieniemy?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TNJet said: It truly is A jets Black monday so far.... Please stay off the roads today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Well last year’s Chiefs OC is doing pretty well. He was also a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: Exactly because we’ll only interview those two and choose from there ??♂️ If if the first two interviews were Greg Williams and Matt Lafleur no one would have batted an eye No because they're totally qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: Exactly because we’ll only interview those two and choose from there ??♂️ If if the first two interviews were Greg Williams and Matt Lafleur no one would have batted an eye If they hire Eric Bieniemy, I get it. I get why they're interviewing him. But Kris Richard is completely out of left field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 One thing to keep in mind is that the only names coming up today are those the Jets had to put in requests to speak to. Any of the "big dog" candidates would require no such requests, so that could easily enough be the reason for the lack of news with them. Can't read too much into things just a few hours in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 CJ wants to be inclusive in his search, good. A lot of deserving guys in the past were overlooked for the wrong reasons. But the bottom line should be finding the best guy available. I like Eric B, but what has he done to qualify him as a Head Coach? Or Kris Richard? That one is out of left field, most likely a guy in the "Developmental Program". Whatever. Hire the best guy, but don't waste your time on tertiary candidates while the OTHER 7 teams looking for coaches snatch up all the best candidates. Thats how you wind up with Todd Bowles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Macc is BIG GAME HUNTING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Considering the amount of times we've been down this road, no. Makes perfect sense. Look around the league, hot assistants never work. Come on, have fun with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Makes perfect sense. Look around the league, hot assistants never work. Come on, have fun with this. Hire inexperienced head coach. Get pissed when they make mistakes. Fire inexperienced head coach. Rinse. Repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Nagy has Vangio to support him and run the defense. A Bienamy HC hIre would require both an experienced DC, preferably one who was an HC, and an OC who has QBC experience. Bowles did have Gailey in year 1, and the results showed. Gailey got turned off year 2. The failure to both replace Gailey correctly and pull the plug on Kacy was Bowles’ downfall. In the latter case Bowles was being loyal, and it cost him his job. If Bowles had a football boss and not Chris, hopefully he would have spotted and corrected that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Been my #1 guy all year. Not just because of the osmosis factor but also his work in Minn. he apparently was the glue that held that team together with Peterson, Harvin, Taylor and a lot of other difficult personalities. He never bowed down to them, stood his ground like a true leader. His experience under Reid is just icing on the cake. Lets do this!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: If they hire Eric Bieniemy, I get it. I get why they're interviewing him. But Kris Richard is completely out of left field. Very much left field given everything we’ve heard about the coaching search has been experienced and offense. I think part of it is looking for someone who can give some infectious energy to this franchise after having Bowles make Florham Park stale for the last 4 years....a lot of this for me will be to see what type of staff is hired especially on offense regardless of who gets hired... I don’t even really want Richard. I desperately want us to bring an offensive person, someone who care hire a good staff to develop Darnold and is aggressive, forward thinking and is a leader of men. i just think the notion of Woody wanting to purposely HIRE a Black coach for optics, as is being touted in this thread, is downright silly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, sourceworx said: Hire inexperienced head coach. Get pissed when they make mistakes. Fire inexperienced head coach. Rinse. Repeat. And the long list of available experienced HC are? And of course even if thats what youre looking for you put all of your eggs in one basket and dont interview young guys. Because you know Nagy, McVay, Pederson, Lynn, Reich, etc, etc all prove that you shouldnt interview young guns. Somehow the majority of playoff teams are coached by young guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: This would be a disaster he was a mess as Colorado’s OC, they were ranked like 100 in offense when he was there now he gets Reid his coffee for a year and he’s a nfl HC candidate Hard to judge him for his 1 year at Colorado. That place was a mess and he had nothing to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Hire inexperienced head coach. Get pissed when they make mistakes. Fire inexperienced head coach. Rinse. Repeat. I thought we might have learned our lesson after Todd Blowtite. Guess not, bring in the next clone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg555 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Of all the teams in the playoffs...what was the experience level of the head coach..when he was hired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg555 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Interviewing the KC offensive coordinator..makes a ton of sense considering how prolific their offense is. I know they have really good talent..but I don’t think you take credit away from their coach just because of that. The Rooney Rule hurts the rep of a candidate like Bieniemy. He obviously gets consideration...regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, jetspenguin said: The Richards interview IMO is a rooney rule requirement but B-Enemy is a hot name right now, nothing at all to do with race. Also, we have no idea how many others have been contacted already. C.J desire for inclusiveness doesnt supersede his desire to show up his brother and actually win something during his tenure. Any assumption that he wants to hire a minority just because they are a minority is....well...just ridiculous. Eric Bieniemy is a "hot" name right now, and fulfills the "Rooney Rule". So.whats the deal with Richard? They have a 21 year old potential FQB to dwvelop and a team to rebuild around him. Why are they dicking around with a DB coach who is on nobody's list of potential HCs? Whatever the reason, they're wasting time with that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Greg555 said: Of all the teams in the playoffs...what was the experience level of the head coach..when he was hired? AFC: Andy Reid: 2nd stint as HC Bill Belichick: 2nd stint as HC Bill OBrien: 1 stint as HC in College John Harbaugh: None Anthony Lynn: Former Interim HC Frank Reich: None(Rookie HC) NFC: Sean Payton: None Sean McVay: None Matt Nagy: None(Rookie HC) Jason Garrett: None(Interim Stint lead to official title) Pete Carroll: Multiple stops as HC in NFL and NCAA Doug Pederson: None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Eric Bieniemy is a "hot" name right now, and fulfills the "Rooney Rule". So.whats the deal with Richard? They have a 21 year old potential FQB to dwvelop and a team to rebuild around him. Why are they dicking around with a DB coach who is on nobody's list of potential HCs? Whatever the reason, they're wasting time with that interview. I made the assumption that Richards is a rooney rule interview and if B-enemy turns them down then they still have to interview a minority. Setting it up now is a good back up plan. That doesnt at all interfere with chasing another guy they really like. At this point it is just phone calls to schedule appointments, not dicking around. The good candidates have multiple options and it all needs to be coordinated. This isnt an indication of dicking around at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: I made the assumption that Richards is a rooney rule interview and if B-enemy turns them down then they still have to interview a minority. Setting it up now is a good back up plan. That doesnt at all interfere with chasing another guy they really like. At this point it is just phone calls to schedule appointments, not dicking around. The good candidates have multiple options and it all needs to be coordinated. This isnt an indication of dicking around at all. Sure it is. Do you think the guy is going to turn down an HC interview? Which means the Jets Hierarchy, having requested such interview, would need to set up the interview and take the same amount of time and effort in interviewing him that they would invest in any other candidate. To not do so would be a subversion of the rule. So yes, if they really have no intention of hiring him, it is a waste of time. That would be the very definition of dicking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 39 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Sure it is. Do you think the guy is going to turn down an HC interview? Which means the Jets Hierarchy, having requested such interview, would need to set up the interview and take the same amount of time and effort in interviewing him that they would invest in any other candidate. To not do so would be a subversion of the rule. So yes, if they really have no intention of hiring him, it is a waste of time. That would be the very definition of dicking around. ISU's Campbell just did............it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: ISU's Campbell just did............it happens I said in another thread that he wouldnt leave Ames, especially for NY. Hes already a HC, has full control of a program, makes $3.5M, and is king of ISU. Richard is a guy who has yet to gain a rep. He did well at Seattle, but has only been coaching 8 years. Apples to Crocodiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I said in another thread that he wouldnt leave Ames, especially for NY. Hes already a HC, has full control of a program, makes $3.5M, and is king of ISU. Richard is a guy who has yet to gain a rep. He did well at Seattle, but has only been coaching 8 years. Apples to Crocodiles. no not really....my point was that some people for whatever reason would decline an interview and it made sense to have another one in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 As part of the "no politics" rule here on JN, we also have very little interest in hearing your views on race. I get that there's the Rooney Rule, and how it comes into play, but let's try to limit the discussion to candidates' qualifications aside from their race or how you feel the Jets ownership takes race into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said: The picture should show him shooting him self in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, usanyj said: I think everyone is talking about another hot coordinator with no NFL head coaching experience, a la Todd Bowles Bowles had NFL head coaching experience, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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