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Who are the odd men out in a 4-3 Jets defense?


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If the Jets move to 4-3 defensive front, who's impacted

Move to a 4-3 is good for.

  1. Leonard Williams - Never seemed like a good fit as a 5 technique in a 3-4 - his versatility could give him a chance to play 3 out of the 4 spots in a 3-4 defense. He isn't the traditional Monster 4-3 DT and might even be best suited to RDE  in a 4-3
  2. Darron Lee - Was not a great 3-4 ILB but could thrive as a 4-3 OLB
  3. Avery Williamson - To me, he just seems like a great modern day NFL 4-3 MLB
  4. Trumaine Johnson - We never generated a great pass rush out of the 3-4, assuming we can do better out of a 4-3, the CBs will benefit
  5. Tarrell Basham - Seems like a good fit for a 4-3 DE - I liked some of his play toward the end of the year
  6. Bronson Kaufusi - Another guy who was miscast as a 3-4 OLB, might have a chance as a 4-3 DE
  7. Mike Pennel - Might have a chance to be a good player as a "big" DT in a 4-3 scheme
  8. Nathan Shepard - Might be better off moving inside and being a 4-3 DT - seems like a much better fit for him
  9. Josh Allen (Kentucky) - I didn't think he was a good scheme fit for the Jets, but now seems like a rather obvious option at #3

Odd Men Out

  1. Henry Anderson - Gotta love the guy for his incredible effort on every play but same as when he left Indy, seems a bad fit for a 4-3 DE
  2. Jordan Jenkins - I like Jenkins and think he did some good things for us, but, let's face it, he's a 3-4 OLB
  3. Brandon Copeland - Same as with Jenkins - might have a bit better chance to transition to a 4-3 DE than Jenkins though
  4. Steve McClendon - More of a 3-4 NT than a 4-3 DT - I thought he did a lot of good things for us and provided good leadership, but he's likely going to be gone anyway
  5. Folorunso Fatukasi - Let's face it, he was drafted for his perceived scheme fit as a  3-4 5 technique  - going to be hard for him to move inside I think
  6. Quinnen Williams (Alabama) - More of a NT type - would have been a decent option at #3 in a 3-4 scheme

 

 

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I don’t think it’s a guarantee we’ll switch, all depend on who the DC is

but don’t need both Lee and Williamson and think I’d actually prefer Lee.  He was a disaster as ilb, but think he’d take off as mlb

and think Allen actually fits perfect as 3-4 olb

Williams is the big one, not sure where he fits in a 4-3, but it definitely can’t hurt him

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Hard to disagree with any of that.  Good job, Sarge.

Jenkins and Copeland would both have a shot as 4-3 DEs. Jenkins probably as a strongside end, and Copeland on the weakside. They could both be decent, though entirely upgradeable, in those spots.

Luvu could be good as an off-the-bench pass rush specialist, kind of like the role Chad Cascadden used to play.

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5 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said:

I don’t think it’s a guarantee we’ll switch, all depend on who the DC is

but don’t need both Lee and Williamson and think I’d actually prefer Lee.  He was a disaster as ilb, but think he’d take off as mlb

and think Allen actually fits perfect as 3-4 olb

Williams is the big one, not sure where he fits in a 4-3, but it definitely can’t hurt him

The speculation is Gregg Williams which, i assume, is why this was brought up since he is known as a 4-3 guy. 

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The idea that you can only do one is overstated. Most coaches use both. That's when they even use a 7 man front. Most base out of nickel now, anyways. 

Also, the idea of a player being a 3-4 or 4-3 player will soon go out the window, too. The NFL will soon start to transition more towards positionless football. You'll see teams start to base in Tite, with up to 4 backer/safety hybrids on the field at once. 

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We need a Sam and a Rush end....Jenkins can play the opposite end.....Lee can move to the Will and Avery will be the MLB. Leo might look better at 4-3 DT.....Henry Anderson could be the odd man out(We picked him up after the Colts switched back to the 4-3)

 

Hopefully somehow someway Demarcus Lawrence can hit FA

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7 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said:

I don’t think it’s a guarantee we’ll switch, all depend on who the DC is

but don’t need both Lee and Williamson and think I’d actually prefer Lee.  He was a disaster as ilb, but think he’d take off as mlb

and think Allen actually fits perfect as 3-4 olb

Williams is the big one, not sure where he fits in a 4-3, but it definitely can’t hurt him

Lee would be fine at WLB

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I am not seeing the negatives stopping a switch to a 4-3.

The key to a 3-4 is the ability to find and develop the NT and OLB/EDGE.  The Steelers can run this defense.  Mac has not done this in four years-the NT is a FA veteran.

If the Jets can make a 4-3 work and salvage two of the LBs, they should do it.  

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it's not mentioned once in this thread but Jamal Adams does what exactly in a 4-3? he was playing $LB in the AZ 3-4 (the old Duone Buchanon/Honey Badger Role) 

the guy just made All Pro playing money backer whatever they move him to in the 4-3, he's not going to fit it as well

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