Gregg Williams being considered

[British Jet]

52 minutes ago, Ohhthepain said:

Why would you voluntarily do that to yourself ?

The Jets won and I figured they must be good. The wife and I love New York and had been there a few months before. With the Jets winning I figured they must be decent. 

Turns out I was wrong, but hey ho. Where’s the fun in always winning? ?

 My soccer team (West Ham) even sing a song about “fortunes always hiding, I’ve looked everywhere” and “and like my dreams, they fade and die”. 

Jets are about right for me. Those who experience failure, appreciate victory much more.

[Villain The Foe]

2 hours ago, Joe Jets fan said:

For Jets DC, per Schefter tweet. 

 

*note, I don’t know how to post tweets

I hope we get him. Great for the defense, and I hope he supports Gase and helps him become a better HC. 

[Bocajetfan]

Bowles surrounded himself with mostly incompetent coaches that could pose no threat to him. Personally would love Williams he would challenge Gase much the same way Buddy Ryan. Challenged Ditka. Something Gase I believe will grow from.

[ryu79]

26 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Pagano is said to be in consideration too

Pagano doesn't bring the defensive intensity I associate with Williams but he has a maturity and projects a decency that Gase would benefit from. I would actually warm to that idea...

[Sonny Werblin]

56 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

If we go to 4-3, who plays DE? Lee? Copeland? Anderson?

Anderson would be gone. DeMarcus Lawrence or more like Frank Clark would be signed as a free agent. Leo would move between DT and DE.

[johnnyjet]

Get this guy now 

[southtown24th]

let's get this done asap

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Anderson would be gone. DeMarcus Lawrence or more like Frank Clark would be signed as a free agent. Leo would move between DT and DE.

I would love Frank Clark but Seabirds won’t let him leave in FA

[Vader]

1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Anderson would be gone. DeMarcus Lawrence or more like Frank Clark would be signed as a free agent. Leo would move between DT and DE.

Anderson if resigned could definitely play DT next to Leo.

I’d go out on a limb and say we’d be running a 3-3-5 base 

You’d have 2 DT’s in the package, Leonard Williams and Anderson (or whomever) and Jenkins (6’3” 265) would be the "standard" DE

You’d have Lee (6’1” 235)(WILL) and Williamson (6’1” 245)(MIKE) and Copeland (6’3” 265)(SAM) as the backer package.

The secondary would consist of Three CBs and Two Safeties, whomever they are. But the key would be Adams, who would rove.

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The standard 3-3-5 shifts into a standard 4-3-4 frequently with Adams becoming the 3rd LB and Copeland becoming the 2nd DE, and the secondary playing standard quarters or Tampa 2 or man with 2 high safeties. Buster skirine is a good tackler but he is not ideal to shift to safety although he could do it, so your slot CB ideally is someone longer.

From a heavier set, with a mcclendon if signed or pennel or heavier DT, (or even leo) you can have a DL package of 

williams-pennel (NT)-anderson (DT) that shifts into a 34 look with different gap coverage than a 43 with Adams coming down and 4 man secondary:

copeland/jenkins-williamson-lee-adams 

williams-pennel-anderson

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On running or passing downs, you can switch up the secondary, DL and LB rotation with guys like hewitt, luvu, pennel, clark, middleton, etc

 

 

[HessStation]

Pretty much silver lining moment here if so

[Long Island Leprechaun]

2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Pretty much silver lining moment here if so

All silver clouds have silver linings.

[freestater]

4 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Pretty much silver lining moment here if so

Interim-HC-in-waiting

[Jetty]

Vance Joseph didnt get the Bengals job so he is probably coming here.

[HessStation]

2 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

It looks like either Williams or Vance Joseph

Williams actually pulls me back in a bit. Joseph doesn’t. *shrugs 

so my guess is it won’t be Williams 

[Joejet]

6 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Pretty much silver lining moment here if so

I don’t think this really works as a full time troll, you can do better! ?

[Jetster]

2 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

If we go to 4-3, who plays DE? Lee? Copeland? Anderson?

Nick Bosa ?

[HessStation]

1 minute ago, Joejet said:

I don’t think this really works as a full time troll, you can do better! ?

I know...honestly Williams is the only thing I can think of that raises an eyebrow to potentially cracking a window open

[Jetster]

Gase- Williams- Boyer 

Sign me up after Bowles-Bates-Kacey

[Joejet]

4 minutes ago, HessStation said:

I know...honestly Williams is the only thing I can think of that raises an eyebrow to potentially cracking a window open

Just kidding, you are too good of a fan to go full troll.  We all get pissed and need to vent sometimes.

[Anthony Jet]

9 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Williams actually pulls me back in a bit. Joseph doesn’t. *shrugs 

so my guess is it won’t be Williams 

This sums it up pretty well for me although I’m probably a lil further from the edge with Gase, for the simple fact that he supposedly a no nonsense guy and after years of rex(who I was fan, even though it was time to move on) and Bowles we could use a lil bit of a hard on steering the ship

[Ohio State NY Jets fan]

14 minutes ago, Young Jetty said:

Vance Joseph didn't get the Bengals job so he is probably coming here.

VJ is interviewing with Cards and Browns - Williams to Jets makes the most sense, Pagano could help Gase with press conferences

[Anthony Jet]

Just now, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Interviewing with Cards and Browns - Williams to Jets makes the most sense

Unfortunately making sense and the New York Jets rarely go hand in hand 

[14 in Green]

38 minutes ago, Vader said:

Anderson if resigned could definitely play DT next to Leo.

I’d go out on a limb and say we’d be running a 3-3-5 base 

You’d have 2 DT’s in the package, Leonard Williams and Anderson (or whomever) and Jenkins (6’3” 265) would be the "standard" DE

You’d have Lee (6’1” 235)(WILL) and Williamson (6’1” 245)(MIKE) and Copeland (6’3” 265)(SAM) as the backer package.

The secondary would consist of Three CBs and Two Safeties, whomever they are. But the key would be Adams, who would rove.

--

The standard 3-3-5 shifts into a standard 4-3-4 frequently with Adams becoming the 3rd LB and Copeland becoming the 2nd DE, and the secondary playing standard quarters or Tampa 2 or man with 2 high safeties. Buster skirine is a good tackler but he is not ideal to shift to safety although he could do it, so your slot CB ideally is someone longer.

From a heavier set, with a mcclendon if signed or pennel or heavier DT, (or even leo) you can have a DL package of 

williams-pennel (NT)-anderson (DT) that shifts into a 34 look with different gap coverage than a 43 with Adams coming down and 4 man secondary:

copeland/jenkins-williamson-lee-adams 

williams-pennel-anderson

--

On running or passing downs, you can switch up the secondary, DL and LB rotation with guys like hewitt, luvu, pennel, clark, middleton, etc

 

 

I'm sold. You're Hired! 

[GaryM]

4 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

That's Gregg Williams.  I wonder what our other Williams (Leo) thinks of the 4-3?

Hopefully he will get traded to a 3-4 team

[Jet_Engine1]

37 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Gase- Williams- Boyer 

Sign me up after Bowles-Bates-Kacey

How about John Wayne Gacy?

[Untouchable]

3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

How about John Wayne Gacy?

Can incorporate the “crawl space” defense and take the league by storm.

And an added bonus, he’s good with the kids.

[rammagen]

4 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

If we go to 4-3, who plays DE? Lee? Copeland? Anderson?

in a 4/3 leo and anderson move to tackles/ I can see jenkins and copeland on the edge and lee moving outside to play in space maybe use his speed

[papz187]

Any idea how long it usually takes for a HC to assemble a staff?
I became a Jets fan in 2015 when they came to London and beat the Fish and so this is the first new HC I’ve experienced.
Curious if it’ll end up as Williams or Joseph.
 

Usually not long after the HC is hired....BTW if I remember that game correctly we beat the hell out of Miami that game! I think our run game....possibly Powell or Ivory (or both) had a big game as well.

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[RobR]

12 minutes ago, rammagen said:

in a 4/3 leo and anderson move to tackles/ I can see jenkins and copeland on the edge and lee moving outside to play in space maybe use his speed

I think we would see either Jenkins or Copeland, but not both at the same time. We'd be awfully light with both of them playing 4-3 end.

I'm also wishing that we are not contemplating where to play Lee and just move on. 

[papz187]

I prefer a 3-4 but if we're going in a 4-3 direction than Williams would be a great hire IMO....love the aggression his defenses play with!

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[freestater]

Hiring Williams would be a nice little bow on the steaming pile the jets just signed 

[papz187]

If we go to 4-3, who plays DE? Lee? Copeland? Anderson?

Not sure....hopefully there is a rusher at #3 we can draft that can fill the role of pass rusher. Lee may benefit from playing in a 4-3 (either in the middle or one of the OLB positions) with the speed he plays with, plus would have more linemen to protect him from guards.

The last time I can remember the Jets in a 4-3 was under Herm....when you have guys like Abraham it makes it much more effective obviously....its basically a necessity in a 4-3.

However, a guy like Abe could also play OLB in a 3-4 so it's just more important to have that edge rusher regardless of what defense alignment we play.

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[Drums]

Vance Joseph is interviewing for the Cardinals so let's hope he goes there. Last time he was DC, his defense was ranked 29th. No thanks.

[jgb]

1) How can Gase be considering anyone until he's officially announced

2) Just please don't let it be Vance Joseph

[HessStation]

A guy like Williams could potentially save a guy like (Leonard) Williams’ career imo. Darron Lee might actually finally scheme fit too