nycdan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Devin White If we draft an ILB in the first round, this place will look like Jonestown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: It's always funny when someone who doesn't know what he's talking about acts like he knows what he's talking about. Skeptable Special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Larz said: They were playing a pretty good amount of 2-4-5 last season. I forgot what it's called If they do hire Williams he is known to design the defense around the players Form of Standard Nickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: It's always funny when someone who doesn't know what he's talking about acts like he knows what he's talking about. Seriously, are you 8 years old... because that is something my kid would say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: not sure why you are talking about players that were cut or released or let go via FA. I was simply talking about having a competent HC and the chance we might have more talent than you think. I feel if we actually do Hire Greg Williams you will see a much bigger impact on the defensive side of the ball than we have seen the last 4 years. We can revisit this mid season next year The why should be obvious. If the problem is coaching, we should see significant improvement from players who were burdened by our historically incompetent coaching staffs. If you can't point to them, then the evidence suggests the players were just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneChrebet80 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Awful hire if it happens. Gase and Williams are two coaches with big egos and reputations, but lousy coaches. Browns were too talented to be ranked 28th in defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, nycdan said: Judging from how open TEs generally look against our D, I think it's because we run a 3-3. No, I'm pretty sure this past season the base pass D was "you got'em, right?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, nycdan said: If we draft an ILB in the first round, this place will look like Jonestown. I'm mixing up the Kool-Aid as I type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, WayneChrebet80 said: Browns were too talented to be ranked 28th in defense. just go back to wanking to your portrait of Baker Mayfield and leave us Jet lunatics be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, WayneChrebet80 said: Awful hire if it happens. Gase and Williams are two coaches with big egos and reputations, but lousy coaches. Browns were too talented to be ranked 28th in defense. I think it's fair to say that jury is still out on Gase; the 2019 season will tell us a lot about him, by how the team responds to him and by how Darnold continues to develop; Greg Williams however is an exceptional Defensive Coordinator with a proven track record and superbowl ring to show for it. Williams would be an excellent get for the Jets - switching back to a 4-3 would not be a very big deal in my opinion. Also, don't overlook the fact that Williams led the Browns to a 5-3 record as the interim HC over their last 8 games. That would give Gase someone else with head coaching experience right there on the sidelines with him to use as sounding board should he so choose to. That's a nice resource to have if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I've seen this guy behind the scenes when the Browns were on Hard Knocks and he's a dick...having said that, I would love this hire. I don't know if any of you have been in the military, but the DI's I learned the most from were "dicks"...guys that get in your face, that will embarrass you in front of everyone else...perfect. You learn from guys like this. When I had jungle training back in the day, the DI's were constantly in your face day and night...HIRE THE DICK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said: I think it's fair to say that jury is still out on Gase; the 2019 season will tell us a lot about by how the team responds to him and how Darnold continues to develop; Greg Williams however is an exceptional Defensive Coordinator with a proven track record and superbowl ring to show for it. Williams would be an excellent get for the Jets - switching back to a 4-3 would not be a very big deal in my opinion. It could be a big deal but for the fact that we have 50 free agents. We have no edge defenders or a NT. We do have a press corner and a Will LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Did this happen or is it bullsh*t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: It could be a big deal but for the fact that we have 50 free agents. We have no edge defenders or a NT. We do have a press corner and a Will LB. That can all be addressed this off-season with the CAP space we have; trade down in the draft and we could easily pick up 2 or 3 more day 1 draft picks. We have more than enough resources to find the missing pieces to field an effective 4-3. And McClendon could play NT quite easily IMO as could Pennell, Sheperd & Fatukasi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, Paradis said: i'm trying to picture who our mike is in Greg's scheme... Wlliamson, i guess? Leo/Anderson/Shepherd/Jenkins?. (..Kaufusi?) Lee/Williamson/Copeland? It's amazing actually when you think about it, not only was entire D roster poor fit for 3-4... BUT ALSO somehow a 4-3 as well How the fck pull that off?!?! Dee Ford.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Would still prefer Pagano but this would be ok as second choice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Did this happen or is it bullsh*t? It has not been officially announced yet but is supposedly imminent per RapSheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestige Worldwide Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Larz said: They were playing a pretty good amount of 2-4-5 last season. I forgot what it's called If they do hire Williams he is known to design the defense around the players Bowles own hybrid of the 2-4-5 The turnstile defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 God, I would hate working for a loud a$$hole like that, I really would. I didn't see Hard Knocks though - does it show moments where he's laughing and getting along with the players, too? Yelling works to an extent, but some players just tune that sh*t out after a while, too. Anyone concerned with that, or is his track record just too good? (Seems that it is.) DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: No, I'm pretty sure this past season the base pass D was "you got'em, right?" More like "Whos got him"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Untouchable said: After the way this team laid down numerous times under Bowles, this is just the kind of prick we need to run the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Our new DC being introduced to the media: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, sourceworx said: After the way this team laid down numerous times under Bowles, this is just the kind of prick we need to run the defense. That's absolutely what has been missing from the Jets sideline for far too long now - and that is exactly what this team needs.....I'm all in on Greg Williams for the Jets DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dcronin said: Yelling works to an extent, but some players just tune that sh*t out after a while... Yellin AT someone, or yelling instructions are not the same... if your doing your job well being yelled at doesnt often apply and anyone that cant hack that once in a while doesnt deserve to be making what these guys are making... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pac said: Our new DC being introduced to the media: Eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said: That's absolutely what this team needs right now.....I'm all in on Greg Williams for the Jets DC. It’s a cycle. A more laidback coach inevitably gets taken advantage of by the players who say they like the coach. They swear up and down how much they want the coach to stay, and the coach protects their jobs. But to play this game players need to literally kill themselves. Eventually you get a Defense like the Jets played for Bowles and Kacy, and the coaches get fired. The owner then brings in a hard nosed coaching staff. Team immediately gets better. But eventually the teams grows tired of it, and if the roster is not constructed correctly, the team quits and the coaches get fired. Like Gase just did. So in a perfect world you figure out the balance like Parcells and Bellichick did. Otherwise you bounce from Edwards to Mancini to Rex to Bowles to Gase to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 If this goes through and we move to the 4-3 I would love to keep an eye on Ed Oliver... (Just face it guys....Mac is here...no way we don't take a DT at 3 barring something unforeseen happening like Bosa sliding to us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said: That can all be addressed this off-season with the CAP space we have; trade down in the draft and we could easily pick up 2 or 3 more day 1 draft picks. We have more than enough resources to find the missing pieces to field an effective 4-3. And McClendon could play NT quite easily IMO as could Pennell, Sheperd & Fatukasi. 2 or 3 1st round picks? How far are we trading back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Seems to be getting even closer now......... https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/adam-gase-gregg-williams-1.25819945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I’ll be happy once he signs. I’m not getting my hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 would love to grab Sheldon Richardson back on the cheap and run him at gap penetrating DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Paradis said: It's amazing actually when you think about it, not only was entire D roster poor fit for 3-4... BUT ALSO somehow a 4-3 as well How the fck pull that off?!?! It is an impressive feat if I do say so myself. todd* almost had to try to do so intentionally. Unless you're telling me a coach* who reports directly to the owners* had all these players thrown upon him* unwillingly yet he* was the one* who was s! canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Get it done. Today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Well If you hire Williams you get a good DC and an interim HC for when Gase is fired. 2 for the price of 1?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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