Kevin L Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: So what's McCarthy think of Gase, he has plenty of time to offer his opinion He's so out of touch, he's never even heard of Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Kevin L said: Lol. People think the game has passed McCarthy by in just the last 2-3 years. Martz hasn't coached in the NFL since 2011. Can't make this up. What does him not coaching in the NFL since '11 have to do with his comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 If an arrogant prick like Mike Martz thinks you are smart and hard working, that says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Well, he did, in fact, suck. I'm putting up facts y'all are just using Jets talking points. When his record as a HC is 23-25 and he's being pitched as some type of offensive genius who presided over the 24th, 25th and 31st ranked offenses... I repeat myself because the facts are seemingly being ignored. Let's all say .- yes, he sucked as a HC, didn't develop any QB's and was a failure within our own division - but we're stuck with him, so gooooo Gase... Okay, I'll join that crowd...but everyone has to be come a realist about what to actually expect. On the other hand the Pats hired a HC that was 41-55 including his first year with them and he turned out pretty good.. Of course having Brady didn't hurt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I think the Gase hire could go either way. You could make an argument that the Dolphins slightly overachieved while he was there, and that he never had a remotely decent QB. You could make an argument he is very mediocre, is propped up because of his relationship with Manning, is kind of a pyscho, never really developed a QB and will be a complete dumpster fire. I have no idea where it will be go. Either way it is going to be an interesting ride. One factor in his favor short term, though. Most teams stay true to a certain team approach to football even through coaching changes. That has certainly been true of the Jets, we have been a "run the play, play good defense, win close games" type of team for 20 years. Under Gase we will almost be the complete opposite, we will be a super aggressive offense oriented attacking team. If we get Williams the defense will be completlely different both in philosophy and execution. It will take a while for teams to figure out the new Jets and a lot of decisions made using past history will be invalid for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I think the Gase hire could go either way. You could make an argument that the Dolphins slightly overachieved while he was there, and that he never had a remotely decent QB. You could make an argument he is very mediocre, is propped up because of his relationship with Manning, is kind of a pyscho, never really developed a QB and will be a complete dumpster fire. I have no idea where it will be go. Either way it is going to be an interesting ride. One factor in his favor short term, though. Most teams stay true to a certain team approach to football even through coaching changes. That has certainly been true of the Jets, we have been a "run the play, play good defense, win close games" type of team for 20 years. Under Gase we will almost be the complete opposite, we will be a super aggressive offense oriented attacking team. If we get Williams the defense will be completlely different both in philosophy and execution. It will take a while for teams to figure out the new Jets and a lot of decisions made using past history will be invalid for the Jets. +1 QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, nycdan said: Never made it but the popover pan should work for that. Maybe today's project. Is best served with a roast including some kind of stock or preferably gravy. On its own it is a little bland. If you do go that way enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, EM31 said: Is best served with a roast including some kind of stock or preferably gravy. On its own it is a little bland. If you do go that way enjoy! Okay, we have had some gameday menu threads but clearly we need a separate one for sharing health-threatening recipes. There is some buried knowledge on this board we need to bring to the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: What does him not coaching in the NFL since '11 have to do with his comments? Nothing at all. It's cool that a guy who knows zilch about this franchise said nice things about a co-worker from 7 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Dolphins offensive rankings...24..25..and 31st i can’t get over it man. I want to and I’m being cautiously optimistic but damn that’s some sh*tty rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kevin L said: Nothing at all. I just don't like to hear positive things. We need more negative. got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: got it. "Smart. Passion for the game. Great work ethic." This is what every coach says about every other coach. It was said about Bowles. I'm rooting for the team just like everybody else, but I won't pretend this is anything but a fluff piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, 56mehl56 said: And here we go again with this total BS nonsense. Hopefully you’re right and it is nonsense, but it’s very plausible. And he’s no rookie HC. There are a slew of teams with rookie QBs who made the playoffs by the their 2nd year. This is dolt Maccagnan’s 5th Draft. I’m not even saying Gase should have to make the playoffs but if they don’t ring up 9 wins next year, he goes, so does Maccagnan which will have been YEARS too late. Be that as it may, I’m just thankful for a new coach if the Jets can’t have a new GM too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Next Trump will endorse Gase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 16 hours ago, New York Mick said: Players didn’t like him The media said he’s thin skinned and can’t deal with failure or criticism He has a losing record His offenses were ranked low as **** His teams didn’t play worth a sh*t He was fired from a rival team because he sucked and had an attitude problem You have to be the most ignorant poster when it comes to this hiring. Please, stop wasting our time with your mindless insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Let me explain. All of the accolades are based on him as a coordinator, not a head coach. We seen his work as a HC of Miami and werent incredibly impressed. However, having 4 starting QB's in 4 seasons allows him an out. Of course we'll found out soon enough. My problem wasnt the W/L column, but his relationship with players. He seemed not to have the respect of his players as an HC. All of these accolades folks keep posting, generally isnt coming out of Miami. That's the problem. Him bringing some of that bad coaching staff with him is another problem. But, that's how some folks feel. Hopefully we're wrong. Exactly which of the Millennials or Octogenarians in Miami would you like to hear from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: So what Martz is Kotite now? Mike Martz is a brilliant offensive mind who helped transform Kurt Warner from grocery store bagger to HOF QB and ran some of the most prolific offenses in league history. If you aren't familiar with Martz look him up. 20 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: 20 years ago... I don't see how that's relevant to his comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: Exactly which of the Millennials or Octogenarians in Miami would you like to hear from? Any one of them who could provide any of the benefits or positive traits Gase provided as a HC. Which is only right since we can accept comments from Alshon Jeffery, Peyton Manning and Mike Martz regarding Gase's OC work....though he's the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I don't see how that's relevant to his comments. because in the modern pass happy NFL, no one will hire him and he's a coach for the AFL. He hasn't worked with Gase since 2008. Do you give out recommendations for jobs to people you haven't worked with in 11 years? These EXACT same stories heralding the greatness of Todd Bowles were written and the same folks said "Wait and see" while touching themselves to each article from guys out of the league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: because in the modern pass happy NFL, no one will hire him and he's a coach for the AFL. He hasn't worked with Gase since 2008. Do you give out recommendations for jobs to people you haven't worked with in 11 years? These EXACT same stories heralding the greatness of Todd Bowles were written and the same folks said "Wait and see" while touching themselves to each article from guys out of the league... The fact that he hasn't worked in the NFL for years is completely irrelevant to what was written. Some of you guys are unbearable with the negativity. Jesus Christ If Martz went on record talking trash the same people would be bringing it up ad nauseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, TommyT said: You have to be the most ignorant poster when it comes to this hiring. Please, stop wasting our time with your mindless insight. No. It’s a message board for the Jets and my post is about the Jets and something they did. Every single thing that I said has been reported so try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Lizard King said: Isn’t it a little unsettling that Peyton Manning is calling Gase a QB whisperer, but Denver had to can Gase’s offense the year before they won the championship and Manning put up record numbers? No. I just watched 4 years of Todd Bowjes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsDogs Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I was all in on this article until I got to this line: "But Martz, now the head coach of the San Diego Fleet of the newly formed Alliance of American Football league, believes in his protege." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yeah but Gase didn’t win multiple Super Bowls with Matt Moore he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 21 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: The fact that he hasn't worked in the NFL for years is completely irrelevant to what was written. Some of you guys are unbearable with the negativity. Jesus Christ If Martz went on record talking trash the same people would be bringing it up ad nauseum. No, I'd never use Martz's opinion on anything in 2019. He's not relevant anymore. You say this about "they'd be bringing it up ad nausuem" like you wouldn't be trashing Martz if he said something not complementary of him. Just like the folks on here praising McCarthy and Rhule a few days ago are now spinning conspiracy theories about them leaking information to make themselves look better for not taking the Jets job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: No, I'd never use Martz's opinion on anything in 2019. He's not relevant anymore. You say this about "they'd be bringing it up ad nausuem" like you wouldn't be trashing Martz if he said something not complementary of him. Just like the folks on here praising McCarthy and Rhule a few days ago are now spinning conspiracy theories about them leaking information to make themselves look better for not taking the Jets job. I certainly would not be trashing Martz if he said negative things about Gase. There's no reason for you to believe that. Have I trashed players who have had negative things to say about Gase? No. Other than being excited about what our offense might look like with Darnold under Gase I've been pretty much reserved on my comments on Gase. I am taking a wait and see approach. His lack of offensive success in Miami is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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