Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Among the Dolphins' free agents, which are realistic to follow Gase here? And who do you want following him here? RB Frank Gore (age: 36) -- 2018 PFF Grade: 82.0 DE Cameron Wake (37) -- 81.6 DE William Hayes (34) -- 79.8 WR Leonte Carroo (25) -- 76.1 RB Brandon Bolden (29) -- 76.0 RT Ja'Wuan James (27) -- 70.7 NT Sylvester Williams (30) -- 63.2 C Travis Swanson (28) -- 60.6 DE Ziggy Hood (32) -- 60.5 TE A.J. Derby (27) -- 60.5 RB Senorise Perry (27) -- 60.0 G Jesse Davis (27) -- 55.1 FS Maurice Smith (24) -- 53.6 QB Brock Osweiler (28) -- 52.7 OLB Stephone Anthony (27) -- 47.4 RT Sam Young (32) -- 45.6 OT Zach Sterup (27) -- 45.4 Not a very inspiring list. I imagine Carroo doesn't hit free agency. So give me Ja'Wuan James as, at minimum, a stopgap at RT while Shell works to come back from injury. Can't hurt to grab Travis Swanson if he hits FA also, since C is a dire need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Among the Dolphins' free agents, which are realistic to follow Gase here? And who do you want following him here? DE Cameron Wake (age: 37) -- 2018 PFF Grade: 81.6 RB Frank Gore (36) -- 82.0 DE William Hayes (34) -- 79.8 WR Leonte Carroo (25) -- 76.1 RB Brandon Bolden (29) -- 76.0 RT Ja'Wuan James (27) -- 70.7 NT Sylvester Williams (30) -- 63.2 C Travis Swanson (28) -- 60.6 DE Ziggy Hood (32) -- 60.5 TE A.J. Derby (27) -- 60.5 RB Senorise Perry (27) -- 60.0 G Jesse Davis (27) -- 55.1 FS Maurice Smith (24) -- 53.6 QB Brock Osweiler (28) -- 52.7 OLB Stephone Anthony (27) -- 47.4 RT Sam Young (32) -- 45.6 OT Zach Sterup (27) -- 45.4 Not a very inspiring list. I imagine Carroo doesn't hit free agency. So give me Ja'Wuan James as a stopgap/backup for Shell while he comes back from injury. Can't hurt to grab Travis Swanson if he hits FA also, since C is a dire need. RT Ja'wuan James probably the only one. I guess Osweiler could be an option depending on what they do with Tannehill this year. Our luck we will spend too much on Wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Stark said: RT Ja'wuan James probably the only one. I guess Osweiler could be an option depending on what they do with Tannehill this year. Our luck we will spend too much on Wake. Defensive players are a lot less likely to follow Gase anywhere, I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Yes, and I hope not. I was more joking on Big Macc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Are we trying to get better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'd take Ja'Wuan James to be our right tackle next year. Also, I wouldn't mind Osweiller as a backup. He seems to play ok under Gase. We are going to need a backup QB with some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Among the Dolphins' free agents, which are realistic to follow Gase here? And who do you want following him here? RB Frank Gore (age: 36) -- 2018 PFF Grade: 82.0 DE Cameron Wake (37) -- 81.6 DE William Hayes (34) -- 79.8 WR Leonte Carroo (25) -- 76.1 RB Brandon Bolden (29) -- 76.0 RT Ja'Wuan James (27) -- 70.7 NT Sylvester Williams (30) -- 63.2 C Travis Swanson (28) -- 60.6 DE Ziggy Hood (32) -- 60.5 TE A.J. Derby (27) -- 60.5 RB Senorise Perry (27) -- 60.0 G Jesse Davis (27) -- 55.1 FS Maurice Smith (24) -- 53.6 QB Brock Osweiler (28) -- 52.7 OLB Stephone Anthony (27) -- 47.4 RT Sam Young (32) -- 45.6 OT Zach Sterup (27) -- 45.4 Not a very inspiring list. I imagine Carroo doesn't hit free agency. So give me Ja'Wuan James as, at minimum, a stopgap at RT while Shell works to come back from injury. Can't hurt to grab Travis Swanson if he hits FA also, since C is a dire need. Shell is only expecting a 6 week rehab and is expected to be full go for OTA’s etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Stark said: RT Ja'wuan James probably the only one. I guess Osweiler could be an option depending on what they do with Tannehill this year. Our luck we will spend too much on Wake. 9 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: I'd take Ja'Wuan James to be our right tackle next year. Also, I wouldn't mind Osweiller as a backup. He seems to play ok under Gase. We are going to need a backup QB with some experience. Is RT a pressing need? Shell isn’t good but he’s serviceable right? He’s at the top of the list for Macc supporters of a good draft pick. Also, James has been quoted as saying he didn’t like Gase’s offense. So there’s that. No one on that list should be signed by the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Ju'wan James and Frank Gore are the only ones the Jets should even consider. A veteran HB that knows the O would be a very valuable asset for Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 If we sign Cameron Wake could be be 26 again and not 36? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Is RT a pressing need? Shell isn’t good but he’s serviceable right? He’s at the top of the list for Macc supporters of a good draft pick. Also, James has been quoted as saying he didn’t like Gase’s offense. So there’s that. No one on that list should be signed by the Jets. I don't know the details of Shell's knee injury. The last I heard was he may not need surgery and could be ready for offseason workouts. It wouldn't be bad to bring in James and get some competition on the roster. I think a lot of our guys don't feel threatened about losing their playing time and competition at some spots could make them play better/harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Ju'wan James and Frank Gore are the only ones the Jets should even consider. Id rather resign Bilal Powell, Frank Gore has a lot of miles on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 get ready for our 2nd qb to be oswieler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: get ready for our 2nd qb to be oswieler I prefer Davis Webb but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Id rather resign Bilal Powell, Frank Gore has a lot of miles on him. Bilal's career might be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Ju'wan James and Frank Gore are the only ones the Jets should even consider. A veteran HB that knows the O would be a very valuable asset for Darnold Frank Gore is going to be 36. The Jets need to get younger and more explosive at RB. Not older and slower. 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I prefer Davis Webb but it is what it is. Why? Davis Webb has never even taken a snap in the NFL. I don’t like Osweiler, but the Jets need a legitimate number 2 QB. And now McCown either. He’s done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: Frank Gore is going to be 36. The Jets need to get younger and more explosive at RB. Not older and slower. Why? Davis Webb has never even taken a snap in the NFL. I don’t like Osweiler, but the Jets need a legitimate number 2 QB. And now McCown either. He’s done. Osweiler would be fine. When you have a franchise QB, backup QB doesn't matter much anyways. All you need is a guy who can keep you competitive through the minor injuries. God, it sounds good to say that we have a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Is RT a pressing need? Shell isn’t good but he’s serviceable right? He’s at the top of the list for Macc supporters of a good draft pick. Also, James has been quoted as saying he didn’t like Gase’s offense. So there’s that. No one on that list should be signed by the Jets. The entire line is a pressing need in my opinion. If we can upgrade we should be looking to do so. But if James made those comments than obviously he is out. Osweiller still wouldn't be a bad option as a backup. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedGreen92 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Id rather resign Bilal Powell, Frank Gore has a lot of miles on him. To say the least he’s been playing since the bush years and I don’t mean W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Stark said: RT Ja'wuan James probably the only one. I guess Osweiler could be an option depending on what they do with Tannehill this year. Our luck we will spend too much on Wake. Is he that much better than Shell, at the $$ difference? I'm asking, I don't really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Why? Davis Webb has never even taken a snap in the NFL. I don’t like Osweiler, but the Jets need a legitimate number 2 QB. And now McCown either. He’s done. Older re-treads don't work here id much rather a younger hungry QB be available just in case, instead of a guy who just goes through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Defensive players are a lot less likely to follow Gase anywhere, I imagine. For what it's worth - The Dolphins's defense heavily outperformed its offense. Hopefully Gase was involved in their success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, chirorob said: Is he that much better than Shell, at the $$ difference? I'm asking, I don't really know. Don't know if Shell will be ready by camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: For what it's worth - The Dolphins's defense heavily outperformed its offense. Hopefully Gase was involved in their success. From the sounds of it, he didn't pay much attention to the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Not a very inspiring list. I imagine Carroo doesn't hit free agency. So give me Ja'Wuan James as, at minimum, a stopgap at RT while Shell works to come back from injury. Can't hurt to grab Travis Swanson if he hits FA also, since C is a dire need. Shell has a PFF grade of 62.8, so not a huge upgrade to James. No idea what Carroo's rating is based on, the guy only caught two passes all year (though one was a 74 yard TD). Special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Older re-treads don't work here id much rather a younger hungry QB be available just in case, instead of a guy who just goes through the motions. He could probably stay on the practice squad and if, God forbid, something happens to Darnold, the season would be lost anyway so give the kid a chance I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Defensive players are a lot less likely to follow Gase anywhere, I imagine. If the DC is changing from 3-4 to 4-3 it's more of a need to pull their guys anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, peebag said: Don't know if Shell will be ready by camp. Did they even ever announce what he actually did? Like what the injury was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Beerfish said: get ready for our 2nd qb to be oswieler I hope not, I am hoping Davis Webb can be the long term backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: I hope not, I am hoping Davis Webb can be the long term backup. New regimes almost always mean new QB's. Since obviously Darnold is going nowhere, Gase is going to want one of "his guys" as the # 2. Osweiler is the only one that makes sense among that group of QB's he's coached. If Webb sticks around, he'll be the # 3 or on the Practice Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, peebag said: Don't know if Shell will be ready by camp. He's said it's a 6 week thing, and he'll be ready for OTA's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: I hope not, I am hoping Davis Webb can be the long term backup. It's nice to have that vet for Darnold to work with on translating the offense though. I know that's what coaches are for but sometimes it's easier to talk to a team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I imagine they will be cutting Amendola and Parker as well. Both making a lot of money and since they are in tank mode, no reason to pay those guys. Parker is a no-go, Gase hates him. Maybe Amendola as a slot guy. Add Robert Quinn to that list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: New regimes almost always mean new QB's. Since obviously Darnold is going nowhere, Gase is going to want one of "his guys" as the # 2. Osweiler is the only one that makes sense among that group of QB's he's coached. If Webb sticks around, he'll be the # 3 or on the Practice Squad. God help us if Gase considers Brock "his guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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