More Cowbell Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Josh Allen is ours if this works out Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Josh Allen is ours if this works out Link If we’re bringing in Williams and running primarily a 4-3, then I don’t really want Josh Allen. He’s a 3-4 OLB, through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 I haven't had a lot of time to follow this but I thought he was a edge rusher. Isn't that what you want for DE in a 4-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'd fall out of my chair laughing if Murray goes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Untouchable said: If we’re bringing in Williams and running primarily a 4-3, then I don’t really want Josh Allen. He’s a 3-4 OLB, through and through. I’d assume Williams is more then gone, if he wasn’t he would have signed already, nobody interested in him for HC job, and he wants to interview with the Redskins so I’d say for some reason Williams doesn’t want to come here it seems, but will if it’s last resort hope I’m wrong, and he is signing as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 more defense yeah babay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I haven't had a lot of time to follow this but I thought he was a edge rusher. Isn't that what you want for DE in a 4-3? I don’t think he has the strength to hold up as a 4-3 end. Clelin Ferrell might be the best fit but I think his upside is limited. I know plenty of people will bitch about drafting an interior DL, but I’d take either Quinnen Williams or Ed Oliver if we’re running a 4 man front. Both of those guys have higher ceilings than any of the passrushers not named Bosa IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: more defense yeah babay It is what it is unless we can trade down. I’d have no qualms about taking a guy like Jonah Williams at #3 but I sure as hell don’t expect it to happen. This is an incredibly top heavy defensive draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 i think haskins will go first somehow. bosa #2. the jets will have to decide whether they want to take the best OL, allen or trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Dream scenario is to trade down into 15 range for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I’d assume Williams is more then gone, if he wasn’t he would have signed already, nobody interested in him for HC job, and he wants to interview with the Redskins so I’d say for some reason Williams doesn’t want to come here it seems, but will if it’s last resort hope I’m wrong, and he is signing as I type. Maybe posturing for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I’d assume Williams is more then gone, if he wasn’t he would have signed already, nobody interested in him for HC job, and he wants to interview with the Redskins so I’d say for some reason Williams doesn’t want to come here it seems, but will if it’s last resort hope I’m wrong, and he is signing as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, nico002 said: Dream scenario is to trade down into 15 range for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year. That works for me nico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The subject of this thread is incorrect. The mock has Haskins going #2, and the Giants taking Tyler Murray at 6. 1. Arizona Cardinals Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State. On a team chock full of holes, edge rusher isn't at the top of the to-do list. That said, it's hard to pass on a talent like Bosa, who can take over games. There isn't an offensive linemen worth taking this high and the Cardinals find themselves in full-on rebuild mode less than a year after hiring Steve Wilks and drafting Josh Rosen in the first round. PAID CONTENT BY COMCASTXfinity. the future of awesome.Stream on the go. 2. Jacksonville Jaguars (mock trade with 49ers) Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State. The Jaguars get their franchise quarterback, which officially ends the Blake Bortles era in Jacksonville. The only question becomes how long before Haskins, who finally declared for the draft, assumes the starting job full-time. 3. New York Jets Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky. Is Josh Allen the best pass rusher in the draft? That will be decided in the coming weeks and months, but no one did more for their draft stock than Allen, who returned to Kentucky for his senior season and went off. After seven sacks and 10.5 tackles for loss in 2017, Allen gained 10-15 pounds of muscle and put up 14 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss and was pretty much unblockable. 4. Oakland Raiders Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama. Williams might be the second-best player in this draft, which is why the Raiders are taking him here even though defensive tackle isn't an immediate need. Williams has been one of the most dominant players in college football, and this is after sitting behind Da'Ron Payne (a Redskins first-rounder last spring) in 2017. Oakland needs an edge rusher but Williams is a one-man pocket-collapser from the interior. 5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State. Burns is a long, lean, explosive pass rusher. At 235-240 pounds, the concern is whether he's strong enough to play the position at the next level, but Burns isn't just a speed rusher; he's also strong, and has the frame to get stronger. Jason Pierre-Paul had 12.5 sacks but he ranked 80th among all edge rushers, according to Pro Football Focus. 6. New York Giants Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma. General manger Dave Gettleman sure sounds like he's content to bring Eli Manning back for another season but imagine the Giants offense with Murray under center, Saquon Barkley in the backfield, and Odell Beckham and Evan Engram running routes. Woo boy. 7. San Francisco 49ers (mock trade with Jaguars) Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson. Ferrell was one of the stars of the best defensive line in college football, and he finished his junior season with 11.5 sacks and 20 tackles for loss. There may be questions about Ferrell's flexibility compared to the other first-round pass rushers but there's no denying his Clemson production. In fact, on first downs during the 2018 season, Ferrell ranked among the top-10 players in the country in sacks (5), hurries (12), hits (10), knockdowns (5) and pressures (17). 8. Detroit Lions Byron Murphy, CB, Washington. When it's all said and done Murphy could be the first cornerback taken. He's an athletic playmaker with game-changing ability. Darius Slay had a good season for the Lions but coach Matt Patricia could use a top-flight cornerback on a defense that ranked 31st against the pass, according to Football Outsiders. 9. Buffalo Bills Ed Oliver, DT, Houston. Kyle Williams is retiring and Oliver, considered a top-5 pick during the college season, would be a steal here. There are questions about his size, and whether he can hold up over a 16-game season, but he's consistently disruptive in both the run and pass game. 10. Denver Broncos Daniel Jones, QB, Duke. Is Case Keenum the answer in 2019? New coach Vic Fangio said Keenum is the Broncos' quarterback "right now." Either way, we know general manager John Elway would love to upgrade the position. There's a reason he was closely watching Justin Herbert this season and now that he's returned to Oregon, Elway could turn his attention to other draft-eligible passers. After a good 2018 season, Jones could improve his stock with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. 11. Washington Redskins (mock trade with Bengals) Drew Lock, QB, Missouri. Alex Smith suffered a gruesome injury in November and it's unclear if the 34-year-old will be fully recovered by training camp. Lock has the best arm of this quarterback class -- he reminds us of Jay Cutler -- and he would answer at least one of the looming offseason questions for this franchise and its beleaguered fanbase. 12. Green Bay Packers Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida. Polite, who had a breakout season at Florida, has an explosive first step and off-the-chart physical abilities. His knack for getting in the backfield was unrivaled at times this fall. And while Kyler Fackrell has had a breakout season in Green Bay, Clay Matthews is 32 and in the final year of his contract. 13. Miami Dolphins Greedy Williams, CB, LSU. With four quarterbacks already off the board, the Dolphins bolster their secondary. Williams may not be the most polished cornerback in this draft class but he is insanely athletic and has all the tools to become a great player. 14. Atlanta Falcons Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson. Grady Jarrett was a beast this season but he could use some help along the defensive line. And Lawrence could end up being the best player to come from this dominant Clemson defensive line. 15. Cincinnati Bengals (mock trade with Redskins) Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama. The Bengals' offensive line ranked 22nd in the league, according to Football Outsiders and the team can move on from Cordy Glennwithout incurring any dead salary-cap charges. Williams has consistently been a top-10 pick in our mock drafts but Kyler Murray has thrown the top half of the board into upheaval. Meanwhile, Cincy gets a player who they can pencil in at left tackle for the next decade. 16. Carolina Panthers Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama. Eric Reid was signed a month into the season but he quickly became one of the Panthers' best defensive backs. His contract is up, which is the case for safety Mike Adams, who will turn 38 in March. Thompson is the best safety in the class (he's expected to officially declare for the draft on Monday), and he can be a game-changer in centerfield. On a unit lacking depth in the secondary, Thompson would be a solid choice. 17. Cleveland Browns D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss. Metcalf is the best wide receiver in this draft and he'd give Baker Mayfield another downfield playmaker alongside Antonio Callaway. And this offense -- with Jarvis Landry, David Njoku and Nick Chubb -- would immediately be considered one of the AFC's best. 18. Minnesota Vikings Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas St. Is it too early for the Vikings to look for a quarterback? That was rhetorical, mostly because Kirk Cousins is one year into a three-year, $84 million -- all guaranteed -- deal. And since Cousins isn't going anywhere, Minnesota has to do a better job of protecting him. Risner was a tackle in college but could kick inside at the next level where he will be a Day 1 starter. 19. Tennessee Titans Noah Fant, TE, Iowa. Delanie Walker is 34 years old and suffered an ankle injury in Week 1 that ended his season. 2017 third-round pick Jonnu Smith finished with 20 receptions and should improve in Year 3 but adding the most athletic tight end in a stacked draft class could be hard to pass up for an offense in desperate need of playmakers. 20. Pittsburgh Steelers Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State. Bet you didn't see this coming. If the Steelers ship Antonio Brown out of town (for, say, a second-round pick), they could decide to replace him with one of the best receivers in this draft class. Harmon put up eye-popping numbers during his junior season at N.C. State and he'd make it difficult for opponents to double-team JuJu Smith-Schuster. 21. Seattle Seahawks Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State. Frank Clark has balled out this season (14 sacks) but he's the only edge-rushing threat. Sweat isn't as athletic as Bosa, Allen or Polite but it's hard to argue with his production. He had 12 sacks and 14.5 tackles for loss for Mississippi State in 2018. 22. Baltimore Ravens Devin White, LB, LSU. C.J. Mosley could hit free agency after the season and White, who could be a top-10 pick, would seamlessly transition into the role. He's one of the most dynamic players in the draft, a sideline-to-sideline thumper who would immediately solidify the middle of the defense. 23. Houston Texans Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma. Ford excelled at tackle this season after moving over from guard and he could play either position at the next level. In related news: Deshaun Watson was sacked 62 times in the regular season for the Texans, which is ... unsustainable. 24. Oakland Raiders (via Chicago) Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan. Khalil Mack was traded before the season, Bruce Irvin was cut last month, and the Raiders are one of the NFL's worst pass-rushing units. They have to address the position early, and possibly often in the 2019 draft. Gary didn't live up to expectations at Michigan but part of that can be blamed on him playing out of position. Is he an edge rusher? Is he better inside? 25. Philadelphia Eagles Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware. Adderley made a name for himself over the final months of the season and the FCS standout could find himself among the first 32 players taken. He'll have a chance to prove himself at the Senior Bowl and the biggest question might be his size -- is he big enough to play safety over the course of an NFL season -- because every other aspect of his game checks all the boxes of what teams look for in a defensive back. 26. Indianapolis Colts Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State. The Colts' defense was exposed by the Chiefs in the divisional round but there's no shame in that; the Chiefs routinely expose every defense they face. But for as good as Matt Eberflus' unit was, upgrading the secondary should be a priority. Oruwariye, a physical, fluid cornerback who can cover, was one of college football's best cornerbacks on first down, holding opponents to 27.6 completion percentage while forcing two interceptions and seven passes defended. 27. Oakland Raiders (via Dallas) N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State. The Raiders need playmakers because 33-year-old Jordy Nelson isn't close to the player he was in Green Bay. Harry had 73 receptions for 1,088 yards and nine touchdowns last season, and he reminds us of JuJu Smith-Schuster and Anquan Boldin. 28. Los Angeles Chargers Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State. Same as last week. We've spent months talking up Quinnen Williams and Ed Oliver, but Simmons has been a disruptive interior force this season. He has just one sack but he spends games in the backfield, as evidenced by his 15.5 tackles for loss. He often requires double-teams, which is a problem for any offense already dealing with Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. 29. New England Patriots Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson. Yep, three of four Clemson defensive linemen went in the first round here. Some were skeptical about Wilkins returning for his senior season but he set career highs in sacks, tackles for loss and, oh yeah, he beat Alabama in the national title game. He'd also help a Patriots defensive line 26th in run defense and 30th in pass rush, according to Football Outsiders. 30. Los Angeles Rams Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia. Nickell Robey-Coleman and Aqib Talib have had solid seasons but Marcus Peters and Troy Hill have struggled with consistency. Talib is also 32 and Baker, who had a strong 2018 with the Bulldogs, would add some youth and playmaking ability to Wade Phillips' defense. 31. Kansas City Chiefs Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama. The Chiefs' defense has been among the league's worst in 2018 and solidifying the linebacker position is as good a place to start as any. Wilson was expected to return to school but announced Sunday night that he was headed to the NFL. He could end up being the best linebacker in this class. 32. Green Bay Packers (via New Orleans) Joshua Jacobs, RB, Alabama. Coming into the season, Damien Harris was the name to know as the best draft-eligible Alabama running back. But Jacobs has been the more dynamic player this season. 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Thai Jet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Untouchable said: It is what it is unless we can trade down. I’d have no qualms about taking a guy like Jonah Williams at #3 but I sure as hell don’t expect it to happen. This is an incredibly top heavy defensive draft. I'd love for Macc to trade down a few spots, pick up some extra draft choices and still grab Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I'd fall out of my chair laughing if Murray goes 2 Prepare to laugh my friend... I have a feeling he is going to go #1... and they trade Rosen to somewhere like Oakland for one of their firsts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 What the Jets have to hope for is that with combine and pre-draft interviews that Murray and Haskins start shooting up the lists like Wentz and Goff... Then the Jets would be in prime position for Bosa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Prepare to laugh my friend... I have a feeling he is going to go #1... and they trade Rosen to somewhere like Oakland for one of their firsts.Nobody is giving up a 1 for Rosen. Hell, Garapollo went for a 4!!!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Nobody is giving up a 1 for Rosen. Hell, Garapollo went for a 4!!! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I disagree. A lot of teams would give up a #1 for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedGreen92 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Boy am I glad we have Darnold. There’s no nfl quarterbacks in this draft sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, nico002 said: Dream scenario is to trade down into 15 range for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year. We should be able to do that by moving back to #7 or so. #15 should net a lot more than a 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, Skeptable said: What the Jets have to hope for is that with combine and pre-draft interviews that Murray and Haskins start shooting up the lists like Wentz and Goff... Then the Jets would be in prime position for Bosa... still have this feeling Bosa will fall to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This is awesome news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: I'd love for Macc to trade down a few spots, pick up some extra draft choices and still grab Williams. or greedy williams. the doltfins also need a qb. they may not be able to get haskins according to mock but maybe there's another guy worth a 3. they have the doltfins grabbing greedy with the 13th pick so the jets could trade down and get really good players and a few more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Nobody is giving up a 1 for Rosen. Hell, Garapollo went for a 4!!! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Jimmy G went for a 2nd, and was only so cheap because Brady had Kraft chase him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Greensleeves said: still have this feeling Bosa will fall to us... after watching the patsie line handle bosa the brother, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Because nobody wants the 2 SB MVP QBs on the market lololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, FloridaJetsFan said: Nobody is giving up a 1 for Rosen. Hell, Garapollo went for a 4!!! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Garapolo went for a 2nd and it was a rental... He was a free agent at the end of the year... Rosen has 4 more years of control... He would get at least a 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Greensleeves said: still have this feeling Bosa will fall to us... Me too... I think with Murray coming out and everyone fawning over haskins and with questions on bosa and his injury he will magically fall to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Jimmy G went for a 2nd, and was only so cheap because Brady had Kraft chase him out of town. And he was a half a year rental... He was a free agent at years end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, BleedGreen92 said: Boy am I glad we have Darnold. There’s no nfl quarterbacks in this draft sorry Murray is a baller. He reminds me of Russell wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 With Flacco and Foles most likely on the market I doubt you see Murray go at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Untouchable said: If we’re bringing in Williams and running primarily a 4-3, then I don’t really want Josh Allen. He’s a 3-4 OLB, through and through. We don't know if we're bringing in Williams. We don't know if Haskins will go #2. We don't know anything.....until we know. Ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, shawn306 said: With Flacco and Foles most likely on the market I doubt you see Murray go at 2. + Bridgewater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 That mock is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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