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Why is no one allowed to talk about Edelman using PEDs?

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LOL you think Edelman is the only NFL player using PED's. you think only the ones getting caught are using PED's? its the NFL, everyone is on PED's. hell even golfers and skeet shooters use PED's. 

Lance Armstrong passed over 1000 drug tests and never failed one. it took his low-life of a teammate to rat him out.

quit being so naive 

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1 hour ago, Gen X Jet said:

Who cares about the PEDs?  The real question is how/why the so-called GOAT is paid like a middle of the pack QB for the last decade?  Salary cap circumvention via TB12?

The smartest thing Brady did for his career was marry Giselle.  Female supermodels and just about anybody making money off of their body (athletes/models) are using HGH. She provides him the money he turns down from the patriots and the HGH/diet/training regimine that keeps him young. Gisele and Tom are on HGH, but not at the muscle building/performance enhancing dosages that most NFL players use.  They use therapeutic dosages to help keep them young. 

Peyton Manning was on it as well, then when rumors came out he and his wife were using it (his final season), he stopped. His play fell off a cliff that season. 

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4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

The point I was driving was more that it makes it easier to have one's body reach a desired level; after that point is reached and one is in maintenance mode rather than growth mode, steroids or other PEDs maybe are no longer necessary (certainly they're less necessary, while uninjured). But that maintenance-only level wouldn't have been reached without having used them in the first place. One doesn't return to rookie Tom Brady body immediately upon cessation of whatever enhancers were used in the first place. 

I take for granted all NFL players are in the gym; we're talking about those guys not someone theoretically juicing and lazing on a couch all day (or bulking up on whatever enhancer - steroids or otherwise - and then doing nothing thereafter). 

Take a 250lb lb who benches 225 30 d times and runs a 4.5 40.

After juicing up to that size, the human body cannot naturally stay at 250lbs of muscle with its own natural hormone production. Also steroids will kill your own natural hormone levels, so anybody taking them will still need to take a decent amount to stay at that physical condition of 250lbs. Nobody produces enough testosterone naturally to retain that much muscle. 

You can't just stop steroids and expect to retain most of it. Look at all the players once they retire. They shrink. Only the ones who get a career on tv continue to use to keep up their appearance (ray Lewis,  Dion Sanders, Howie long, Tony gonzalez...) 

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