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A lot of you guys said that MacCagnan would rightly be laughed out of the league if he traded down from the #3 overall  to #15 {Redskins pick} this year to receive a #2 and #3 this year plus a #2 next year.  Seems to me that DK Metcalf or some very similar talent would be available in that same #15 overall selection, while the proposed trade down would have garnered an additional #2 and #3 this year and a #2 next year.  Yet MacCagnan wouldn't be "laughed out of the league" for taking Metcalf a #3  overall?  What's up with that?  Sorry at #3 overall, No, just say NO.

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2 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

A lot of you guys said that MacCagnan would rightly be laughed out of the league if he traded down from the #3 overall  to #15 {Redskins pick} this year to receive a #2 and #3 this year plus a #2 next year.  Seems to me that DK Metcalf or some very similar talent would be available in that same #15 overall selection, while the proposed trade down would have garnered an additional #2 and #3 this year and a #2 next year.  Yet MacCagnan wouldn't be "laughed out of the league" for taking Metcalf a #3  overall?  What's up with that?  Sorry at #3 overall, No, just say NO.

Who do you prefer if we cannot trade down? Josh Allen, Rashan Gary, Jonah Williams?

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24 minutes ago, rangerous said:

if he's the guy then maybe.  but it does look like he's got some injury issues so there is some risk and it's quite possible he doesn't stay in the first round.  and, not for nothing, we've seen lots of reaches by mac on guys who should've been first rounders except they were injured etc.  i don't want to see the jets reaching, especially with the 3rd pick.

Indeed. I’m saying if he’s the guy, and by that I mean the medical checks out, and the workouts look good, then he’s the guy. What does it matter if he’s taken at 4 or 10 or 12 etc. no one will care to three years from now

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Let’s be honest. Chances of Macc breaking an 18 year streak of no WRs in the first for NY is slim to none. 

May I present to you; Jalen Hurd and Keelan Doss in rounds 3-4. And Jazz Ferguson in rounds 4-7. 

Here’s a sneak peak at the Gazelle 

 

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23 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Indeed. I’m saying if he’s the guy, and by that I mean the medical checks out, and the workouts look good, then he’s the guy. What does it matter if he’s taken at 4 or 10 or 12 etc. no one will care to three years from now

If u like a guy at 3 and know he will be there at 10, u trade down.  There will be plenty of teams looking to move up for a qb.

 

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1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

If u like a guy at 3 and know he will be there at 10, u trade down.  There will be plenty of teams looking to move up for a qb.

 

Geez. Didn’t know it was that easy. 

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1 hour ago, JiF said:

I'm not sure he's Hill but their level of production in college is eerily similar.  Metcalf scares the ever living snot out of me.  

The OP compared him to Mike Evans and I have no earthly clue where that comparison comes from, nowhere even close the same production in college.  

I wouldnt touch him personally.  At #3???? OMG hell no.

I said if he runs a 4.5 40, at 6'4 230, he's in the Evans mold. Kids got hands, and has put up good.numbers in limited action, but I mever compared their college production or careers. But if we did, can we also compare Matt Luke vs Kevin Sumlin and Johnny Heisman vs. Shea Somebody and Jordan Ta'amnotgoingpro....lol

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I'm at a loss with this DK infatuation suddenly. I was okay with it last night if Allen was gone, but I asked paradis why he thought Metcalf should be taken at 3. Never heard back, but I trusted his judgement. Now today after reading more about him, WTF? Has he played even 20 games? Look, you guys know way more about these prospects then I do, but eff this guy. Between the broken foot and neck surgery, and lack of on field experience, take him at 3? Come on now.

If I had to guess all this talk about him doesn't matter though. After releasing Long, I'm almost certain the Jets have decided to reach on their top pick, and it won't be for Metcalf (thank God). I'm thinking it's Jonah for sure now. If he can't play LT right away they just plug him in at T and call it a day. 

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2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

You trade down w/ den at 10 and take this guy.

+1.  This would be ideal if Mac could swing it.

I'd have no problem if they took him at 3, and I think after the combine it won't be considered out of the question.  He comes from a family of All-Pro's. His Grandfather, Father, and Uncle all played for many years in the NFL.  Those type of guys almost always pan out.  I like the Brandon Marshall comp for him. 

Kelvin Harmon, IMO, is closer to Braylon Edwards, and would be another guy to target in a trade back.  I really like both guys.

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1 minute ago, F00tballGuy69 said:

+1.  This would be ideal if Mac could swing it.

I'd have no problem if they took him at 3, and I think after the combine it won't be considered out of the question.  He comes from a family of All-Pro's. His Grandfather, Father, and Uncle all played for many years in the NFL.  Those type of guys almost always pan out.  I like the Brandon Marshall comp for him. 

Kelvin Harmon, IMO, is closer to Braylon Edwards, and would be another guy to target in a trade back.  I really like both guys.

Thats the dream scenario right there. Sign a C and OG in FA. Resign Long as OG. Metcalf and Harmon. Rest of the draft is O line. Whammo.

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My question is how the **** did Terry Metcalf have a son that was an NFL Guard and a grandson that is 6'4" 230?  I loved Terry and Eric, but they were both like 5'9" 185.  

1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Thats a funny throw away line. Lets delve into it.

 

Charles Rodgers MSU 2003 #2 pick: His life was a mess off the field. His injury was bad, but then he broke his clavicle a second time and basically left the team out of despair. He went on to have multiple drug suspensions, and as of now has been arrested about 20 times for various things. Taken at #3 overall that year? ANDRE JOHNSON. He was OK for a while....lol

 

Mike Williams, USC, 10th pick 2005: Sat out his last season at USC trying to leave early. Reported to the Lions out of shape and overweight. Played with Joey Harrinton. LOL. Pick #3 THAT year? Braylon Edwards. Had a devent career playing with guys like Derek Anderson, Mark Sanchez etc. 

 

So yeah.....no.

 

Matt Millen also selected Calvin Johnson.

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3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

This is why:

 

 

Not looking to knock the kid, but I look at these career highlight things like this: If I put one together of myself hitting my best shots on the golf course in local tournaments, a bunch of you would be lining up to sponsor me on the Senior Tour. But you watch me actually play over a bit of time, you'd realize you were watching a 5 or 6 cap who struggles in a Club Championship setting. No doubt DK's got pedigree, size and talent. But he has to be raw, and he's had injuries two of his 3 seasons at Ole Miss. At the 12-15 range, ok give him a shot. But at 3? Not my choice. I'd rather we go with either Josh Allen or even Greedy at CB. I think the Jets are looking OL now though. 

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7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

My question is how the **** did Terry Metcalf have a son that was an NFL Guard and a grandson that is 6'4" 230?  I loved Terry and Eric, but they were both like 5'9" 185.  

Matt Millen also selected Calvin Johnson.

They married BIIIGGG women?

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46 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I said if he runs a 4.5 40, at 6'4 230, he's in the Evans mold. Kids got hands, and has put up good.numbers in limited action, but I mever compared their college production or careers. But if we did, can we also compare Matt Luke vs Kevin Sumlin and Johnny Heisman vs. Shea Somebody and Jordan Ta'amnotgoingpro....lol

I dont think their size and speed makes them a comparable player.   Mike Evans was an absolutely unguardable monster in college.  He made jaw dropping plays in addition to the routine.  He could do it all.  He wasnt just a long ball specialist like Metcalf.  Evans lit up the SEC and the best corners they offered.  Metcalf has had 3 receivers catch more balls than him every year at Ole Miss and he has injury issues.  

And sure, Mike Evans had a better QB in college.  However, that didnt stop Metcalf's teammate AJ Brown light up the league and put up Mike Evans like #'s.  So why is that an excuse for Metcalf? 

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36 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

This is why:

 

 

lol he runs 2 routes, the 9 and the fade in the endzone.  

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4 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

DK Metcalf. If he runs under a 4.55 he will be in the same neighborhood as Mike Evans (4.53). Hes HUGE. 6'4 230, with ridiculously long arms. Huge catch radius. Beats guys deep, wins 50/50 balls. Has an iniury history, but they all do. Hes a bigger Braylon Edwards without baggage. Hes probably faster than Brandon Marshall, but without his baggage. Hes young, but has an amazing lineage, Father, Grandfather, and Uncle all played Pro Football. He gets it. Dude was a MAN in the SEC, not Div.2. 

 

Jets haven't had a guy like this, a true, young, drafted #1 WR since arguably Keyshawn Johnson. (Ran around a 4.5 flat at 6'3 215 at his combine).

 

If DK blows up the combine and puts in a performance near Mike Evans, just turn in the card. Screw the top 100 lists and professional draft hobbyists telling you you "MUST DRAFT DEFENSIVE TACKLE X", or "BPA is the ONLY way to go"....thats how you wind up drafting Defense 18 out of 20 times, and end up with an underachieving DT and a Safety over Mahomes. And if you dont think theres "value" with the O linemen this year, you take a chance on the freak, possibly elite #1 receiver for your second year QB to grow up with. 

 

And laugh at Kiper and McSham and all of the amateur draftniks while you do it. 

 

Mike Williams (Kiper said he would be at Williams HOF induction before he was drafted)

Charles Rogers

David Terrell

Justin Blackmon (The ONCE IN A GENERATION talent many on Jets Insider posters were swearing we had to move up for)

Troy Edwards

Jon Baldwin

A.J. Jenkins

Laquon Treadwell

Peter Warrick

Freddie Mitchell

David Boston

Reggie Williams

Ashley Lelie

Darrius Heyward-Bey

Not to mention guys like Percy Harvin, Sammy Watkins, Kenny Britt....

Forgive me if I am not that excited about taking another can't miss wide-out way higher than projected for fear he might bust like many WR'S seem to do.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

My question is how the **** did Terry Metcalf have a son that was an NFL Guard and a grandson that is 6'4" 230?  I loved Terry and Eric, but they were both like 5'9" 185.  

Matt Millen also selected Calvin Johnson.

Give a guy enough chances with high first round picks, he can draft ONE WR that didn't flame out in three years.

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7 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

Give a guy enough chances with high first round picks, he can draft ONE WR that didn't flame out in three years.

If Roy Williams were a Jets draft pick, this board would be waxing poetic about him for another three decades.

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2 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Thats a funny throw away line. Lets delve into it.

 

Charles Rodgers MSU 2003 #2 pick: His life was a mess off the field. His injury was bad, but then he broke his clavicle a second time and basically left the team out of despair. He went on to have multiple drug suspensions, and as of now has been arrested about 20 times for various things. Taken at #3 overall that year? ANDRE JOHNSON. He was OK for a while....lol

 

Mike Williams, USC, 10th pick 2005: Sat out his last season at USC trying to leave early. Reported to the Lions out of shape and overweight. Played with Joey Harrinton. LOL. Pick #3 THAT year? Braylon Edwards. Had a devent career playing with guys like Derek Anderson, Mark Sanchez etc. 

 

So yeah.....no.

 

Oh you missed Roy Williams :)

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43 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

My question is how the **** did Terry Metcalf have a son that was an NFL Guard and a grandson that is 6'4" 230?  I loved Terry and Eric, but they were both like 5'9" 185.  

Matt Millen also selected Calvin Johnson.

I'm guessing he married a big woman?

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3 hours ago, Paradis said:

 

What’s wrong with taking him at #3. No guarantee we’ll get an offer. If he’s the guy, then he’s the guy

I’m sold.  

Stephen Hill had something like 40 catches TOTAL coming out of college which made him a huge gamble.  I was disgusted they didn’t take Alshon Jeffrey, just didn’t make sense but then I heard a story that he was so nasty even belligerent in his interview with the Jets they almost kicked him out half way through...mystery finally solved.  Metcalf is no Hill.

Anyone who can play and gives Darnold more help (lots of times Sammy doesn’t even need it, does it all himself) is what this team needs...Now.

Put Defense on the backburner, Williams will squeeze everything that is there already out, which will be at least 2x as good as Bowles and his no show job buddy Rogers

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