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1 hour ago, 14 in Green said:

Not looking to knock the kid, but I look at these career highlight things like this: If I put one together of myself hitting my best shots on the golf course in local tournaments, a bunch of you would be lining up to sponsor me on the Senior Tour. But you watch me actually play over a bit of time, you'd realize you were watching a 5 or 6 cap who struggles in a Club Championship setting. No doubt DK's got pedigree, size and talent. But he has to be raw, and he's had injuries two of his 3 seasons at Ole Miss. At the 12-15 range, ok give him a shot. But at 3? Not my choice. I'd rather we go with either Josh Allen or even Greedy at CB. I think the Jets are looking OL now though. 

Ok at 12, but no at 3. Why? Seriously. Why the **** not? The money is negligible, and if you wind up with Calvin Johnson or even a young, uncrazy Brandon Marshall, nobody cares and everyone wins. If he busts? Who gives a ****. At least we tried to build around our young QB instead of busting at yet another Defensive player....Gholston, Dewayne Robertson, Calvin Pryor, Dee Milliner, Kyle Wilson, Quentin Coples, Mohammed Wilkerson, or drafting another "BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT THAT 5 OTHER TEAMS MYSTERIOUSLY PASSED ON" that plays at a non premium position,  and on, and on, and on.......

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I say if we can trade with the giants or Jacksonville even to get just a xtra 2nd so they can get qb they want and then draft dk with first if not just take him at 3 if bosa and allen are gone. With that 2nd take best ol available or if nkeal Harry is available take him too. It will solve are wr for long term. In fa grab two edge  and two ol one being center. And still have enough for bell if we want or another rb in fa. Then with rest of draft go bap. 💥 bam offense and defense fixed and we’re making the playoffs next year be itches. Btw I think if we trade with Denver dk will be gone by 10 especially if he blows up the combine 

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36 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

There’s a lot of interesting WR this year. I’d rather figure out a way to get into the second round and draft one there. 

 

25 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said:

i would love a dominant 1 wr, but i do not see it with this guy. i would take him in the second but hell no at three. there are other good receivers we can take later (deboo, aj brown, hollywood brown, harmon, ridley, etc)

In lieu of who, exactly. Who is so tantalizing that you’re willing to pass on AJ Green upside, for? 

I’m listening 

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25 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Ok at 12, but no at 3. Why? Seriously. Why the **** not? The money is negligible, and if you wind up with Calvin Johnson or even a young, uncrazy Brandon Marshall, nobody cares and everyone wins. If he busts? Who gives a ****. At least we tried to build around our young QB instead of busting at yet another Defensive player....Gholston, Dewayne Robertson, Calvin Pryor, Dee Milliner, Kyle Wilson, Quentin Coples, Mohammed Wilkerson, or drafting another "BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT THAT 5 OTHER TEAMS MYSTERIOUSLY PASSED ON" that plays at a non premium position,  and on, and on, and on.......

Trust me man, I'd love to get the play maker we need so badly. His health history scares me though. You mentioned Dee Milliner. Remember how his history? injured even when we picked him. Got hurt in camp, and it went on and on, until he was done. We need help in a lot of places, and don't have another pick until the 3rd round. I just want them to take a guy we can count on to be on the field producing.

Your point of why at 12 but not at 3 is a very good one. The best answer I can give is that the number of "can't miss guys" is a very limited one in any draft. This year the number seems exceptionally small. The only two I think most people agree on are Bosa and Allen. Some might include Quinnen Williams also, but I don't. We're at 3, hoping to get one of the top 2 somehow. If we were higher I wouldn't mind taking a chance on the "skill" guy, but from where we sit, I'd hate to reach.

I'm not saying I'm right. Hell I'd much rather "hit" on a WR then a Dl, but this just looks like a horrible year on the offensive side of the ball early on in this draft.

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10 minutes ago, Paradis said:

 

In lieu of who, exactly. Who is so tantalizing that you’re willing to pass on AJ Green upside, for? 

I’m listening 

i could be wrong but i do not see aj green in metcalf. just dont think there is much difference between metcalf and the other recievers i mentioned but im no scout

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4 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

 

He reminds me a little Calvin Johnson and Al Toon and Braylon sprinkled in there. Also, who is that QB throwing those balls to the guy right in stride? He's good too

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12 minutes ago, Paradis said:

 

In lieu of who, exactly. Who is so tantalizing that you’re willing to pass on AJ Green upside, for? 

I’m listening 

Metcalf isn’t the only WR that has potential in this draft and I want them to trade down, pick up the best OL available then draft a WR or RB (playmaker) or another OL in the second. 

obviously depending on what happens in FA.

 

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12 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

Metcalf isn’t the only WR that has potential in this draft and I want them to trade down, pick up the best OL available then draft a WR or RB (playmaker) or another OL in the second. 

obviously depending on what happens in FA.

 

Every post and has a trade down clause. Someone look up when the last time we traded down. Like 1970? I wouldn’t hold your breath. 

Let me put it this way. Fck the dline. Need a pass rusher? Free Agency. Lots of them sh*ts. OLINE? They’re all flawed in some manner. How many WR1s make it to FA? Zero? Less than zero? If they’re was a stalwart OT, then sure. Bosa, sure.  

After that? Why not Metcalf

itll never happen for us btw, I would still like to at masterbate to the idea.

 

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5 hours ago, Paradis said:

Indeed. I’m saying if he’s the guy, and by that I mean the medical checks out, and the workouts look good, then he’s the guy. What does it matter if he’s taken at 4 or 10 or 12 etc. no one will care to three years from now

I guess you haven’t seen all the Jamal Adams hate around here ? :) 

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59 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Every post and has a trade down clause. Someone look up when the last time we traded down. Like 1970? I wouldn’t hold your breath. 

Let me put it this way. Fck the dline. Need a pass rusher? Free Agency. Lots of them sh*ts. OLINE? They’re all flawed in some manner. How many WR1s make it to FA? Zero? Less than zero? If they’re was a stalwart OT, then sure. Bosa, sure.  

After that? Why not Metcalf

itll never happen for us btw, I would still like to at masterbate to the idea.

 

Until after the combine it's impossible to figure out where guys are going to go, Metcalf might not even be the first WR off the board. If he gets a clean bill of health and test well and guys like Brown, Brown, Harry, Harmon, Johnson, etc don't do amazing he'll probably be the number 1 WR off the  board but you never know.

 As far as without trading down I still wouldn't want to take Metcalf. I'd rather take a Bosa, Johan, Gary,

 or Quinnenin that order and then go for a WR, RB or OL in the 3rd. You'll have to wait until after the combine until I give you a list of names for the 3rd round.

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17 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

How is this guy different from kevin white.  Or is he juliuo jones or kevin white?

He’s a different type of receiver then White. White was lighter and faster. Metcalf is strong and can make crazy catches. 

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8 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

How would you say he compares to Stephen Hill? I'm really just being a wise ass but your description of this guy reminds me a lot of the people who would pump up Hill as the next coming.

Such high hopes and he was a total bust. Ya never really know.

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8 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

N'Keal Harry/Marquise Brown/Parris Campbell/Riley Ridley/Kelvin Harmon/AJ Brown/JJ Arcega Whiteside/Deebo Samuel are also legit #1 WR potential guys. 

Personally, N'Keal Harry is my #1 guy. I do think this year's combine is one of the most important combines for WRs that I can remember. We have a bunch of really talented, big kids that are pretty interchangeable. Their 40 times and other results could jump 1 or 2 to the top. 

From what little I've seen of Harry he kind of reminds me of Plaxico Burress at Michigan State. Big red zone target who fights for balls... 

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57 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

How is this guy different from kevin white.  Or is he juliuo jones or kevin white?

The record will show that i was staunchly against Kevin White... These share two little common, besides height. 

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1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

Until after the combine it's impossible to figure out where guys are going to go, Metcalf might not even be the first WR off the board. If he gets a clean bill of health and test well and guys like Brown, Brown, Harry, Harmon, Johnson, etc don't do amazing he'll probably be the number 1 WR off the  board but you never know.

 As far as without trading down I still wouldn't want to take Metcalf. I'd rather take a Bosa, Johan, Gary,

 or Quinnenin that order and then go for a WR, RB or OL in the 3rd. You'll have to wait until after the combine until I give you a list of names for the 3rd round.

to each their own, of course. I could give a sh*t about anybody on defense at this point not named Bosa @3... i just don't care. There's always an excuse about why we took Adams over Mike Williams. Leo over Gurley, etc... Enough. 

The combine is going to separate this group for sure. I think a lot of his "draft media darlings" are going to take it on the chin in Indy.

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Kevin White? LOL. Really? Much smaller, speed WR from WVU Air Raid who had a brutal set of circumstances (fx shin requiring surgery and steel rod, rebroke next year). Bad luck for him, but a completely different type of receiver from Metcalf who played against higher level SEC competition and is about 2x his size and strength. 

 

Its like comparing Santonio Holmes and Megatron.

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you guys should be following me on twitter. I've had a some good exchanges in recent weeks with Jeremiah, the Draft network crew and a handful of prospects. I just heard from one guys dad about the jets meeting him and get him to sign a waiver...

You're not gonna guess what position..

 

 

 

wait for it.....

 

 

 

Safety. hahahah

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7 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Stephen Hill played in a triple option offense that threw the ball 3 times a game and used 1 guy (him) in 1 route (9). 

Taking Hill set our franchise back big time.  Could have had Jeffreys or Bobby Wagner which would have completely changed out defense for a decade.

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11 minutes ago, DJF71 said:

Taking Hill set our franchise back big time.  Could have had Jeffreys or Bobby Wagner which would have completely changed out defense for a decade.

No it didnt. The 2010 Draft ****ed the Jets hard. Kyle Wilson, Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight and the Terminator. LOL. Thats the core draft we tried to build a team around a second year QB with....

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White 6'3"  215 coming into the league,

metcalfe 6'4" 225

white had massive production coming into the league.

I am not totally opposed to a wr at 3 and for sure later on but the lack of production in college is a concern.

I'd much rather trade down, take oline with our 1st pick and go wr after that.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

White 6'3"  215 coming into the league,

metcalfe 6'4" 225

white had massive production coming into the league.

I am not totally opposed to a wr at 3 and for sure later on but the lack of production in college is a concern.

I'd much rather trade down, take oline with our 1st pick and go wr after that.

 

 

They played completely different. White was a speed demon. Metcalf plays strong, is a jumper, has a great reach and better hands. 

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