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New York Jets Free Agent Candidate: WR Adam Humphries

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8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Fast forward to March, when the Jets sign Tate to a 4-year, $50 million deal with $20 million in guarantees.

Pac:  "Remember when people said Macc was dumb and should be fired?  They have to feel awfully dumb right now."

This would 100% happen but I you have to admire Pac following Mac's vision perfectly here.

Why spend money on good players?  When you can literally throw money away on cheaper sh*ttier players guaranteed to suck and not be on the roster next season.  It's the Mac special and Pac approves! 

 

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Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

And when those sh*tty players fail, the blame falls on Adam Gase.

But kudos to Mac for constructing the contract so we could get out after a few years!!!

 

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1 minute ago, Pac said:

The fact that you've been giving Tate e-handjobs for months is all the proof necessary to make your opinion on this topic completely invalid.

Yes, me wanting the best WR on the market who has proven year over year to be reliable, healthy and consistently gets open and catches the ball to the a clip of 90 receptions a year to pair with my 22 year old QB is a terrible idea.

Instead, lets go get a guy who had 12 receptions last year and see how he does because that's how you develop a young QB!

Pac, man, you're smart.

 

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Julian Edelman turns 33 next season.  The Pats should probably drop him when you think about it.

Antonio Brown turns 32 next season.  I wouldnt touch him if he was free of cost!!! 

Julio Jones turns 31 next season.  I wonder if the Falcons wise up and go younger!

AJ Green turns 31 next season.  I wouldnt take him for a 6th round pick. 

But if Eli Rodgers wants to come to NYC, I'd roll out the red carpet. 

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Just now, Pac said:

In 18' Taint had 77 receptions for 795 yards and 4 TDs.

Robbie had 50 receptions for 752 and 6 TDs.

 

Your plan is to pay Tate 4 times more than Robbie for the same production.

Go to bed.

Pac, hot take bro!!!!   Never mind the 5 season prior where he had over 90+ receptions and 1000+ yards!  Remember when the Super Bowl champs traded for him midseason and he had that go ahead catch in the playoffs this season?  Me either!!!

Cost????  OMG???!!!  When you think about it, its like, why even spend any of the 2nd most cap space in the league?  Especially if it helps a 22 year old QB.  That would be sooo dumb!!!!  Especially when you can get Eli Rodgers on the cheap!  That's how we're going to support Sam!

Have you sent your application into Mac yet?  I dont think you'd have to interview, if I'm being honest. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pac said:

Now Golden Tate is Antonio Brown..

Seriously...  go to bed.

That exactly what I said, hot take Pac!!!!! You're on fire!!!

Now, let's get back on the Eli Rodgers topic.  Did you see all 12 of his receptions last year?  They were amazzzzinnnnngggg!!!!

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Just now, rayzor said:

Tate and Beasley are no hall of famers.  You can easily find more WR's on the wrong side of 30 on the decline.  That's a very small example.

You're missing the point.  Dont be Pac.  Bad person to follow with the worst track record on the board. 

3 of the best WR's in the NFL are +30.  The Super Bowl MVP is 33.  WR is not a position where you hit a wall at 30.   You can play well into your 30's.  Golden Tate gives Sam Darnold something he doesnt have currently and didnt have last season.  A professional WR who is consistently available, consistently open and consistently catches the ball.  Someone he can trust to be in the right spot every time he snaps the ball.  Q and Anderson are good but they're far from Tate's level of consistency.  There isnt a single WR on the market that gives you what Tate will. 

It's not about long term.  It's about Darnold's development right now.  You dont take chances on that.  You get guys who can help him even if it's for a year or 2 while he himself, learns how to be consistent and just hope that Big Mac can develop a pipeline of WR's to step up when Darnold himself has come into his own.  Cost be damned.  You cant put a monetary value on Darnold's development. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pac said:

Eli Rogers will be a steal for whoever gets him for the money he'll get.  

Write it down.

Or would you rather we keep pretending I called him a #1 reciever?

Eli Rodgers. lmfao

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2 hours ago, Pac said:

He was a complete non factor for the Eagles other than that catch.

But now that I know he had a decent season in 2013 I've changed my mind.  Let's give him 15 mil a year.

Jeffery was the only WR who had more catches than Tate once he started playing after the trade.  Jeffery had 6 more receptions during that time frame on 20 more targets.

In 2017, Tate had 92 receptions, 1003 yards, and 5 TD's.  He wasnt as good in 2013, unfortunately. 

Tate has never made near 10 million in a year but sure he'll get his biggest paycheck at this point in his career. 

Hot takes, Pac!!!!!

 

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36 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I would be happy to have him at the right price.  The reason Detroit traded him was because they got wind that he was seeking Landry/Evans money.  15-16M.  I doubt he will get that considering his age but i'd think he will be looking to at least get Sanders/Baldwin money which is around 11M.

People need to get over this "right price" crap, no offense.  Here's the reality, you cant put a price tag on the development of Sam Darnold.  You dont take chances or worry about over spending, you commit to surrounding him with reliable targets that consistently get open and catch the Football.  The Jets have 100mil + in cap space, every single penny should be spent toward surrounding Sam with as much help as he can get it.  What else are you going to do with the money?

The other factor, this day in age in FA, you got to pay to play.  Bottom line.   And if your strategy as an organization was to save for  a big spending spree on FA's in the offseason, than you have to deal with an inflated market along the way.  Donte Moncrief made 9mil on the open market last year.  Donte ******* Moncrief.  I'd rather pay Golden Tate at 31, 12-14 mil all day long than go sign a sh*t bag like Donte Moncrief for 9 mil.  It's great that Tate wants Landry/Evans money but he's not in his mid 20's anymore.  He'll find himself on the market a very long time if that's his sticking point.

The idea of wasting 6-7 mil on a sh*t bag like Eli Rodgers vs. paying 12 mil on one of the most reliable WR's in the league is laughable.  Dont be laughable ie; dont be Pac. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Football players are no good after 30 unless you're running a glue factory.

The way to develop a young QB is to surround him with the least-experienced players possible, because if they pan out beyond expectations then their careers will be longer than a 31 year-old geezer. 

How dumb are you that you can't do these easy maths?

I'm great at the maths, check it:

Golden Tate - 12 mil

Eli Rodgers - 7 mil

That's 5 mil in savings!

Fast forward to week 10, Q is hurt and Robby Anderson is suspended and Eli Rodgers is our #1.  Sam finished the game completing 40% of his passes, threw 4 INT's because nobody could get open and the Jets cant score but all good homey, we saved 5 million passing on that fossil Golden Tate for Eli Rodgers!!!!

 

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7 minutes ago, Pac said:

Wow you're really doubling down on this Golden Tate thing.  Laughable.

Thankfully I dont see our Jets even giving him a call.

You're laughable. 

Golden Tate is a preference I'm not tied to him, there are other guys out there I like that I'd be fine with as well; Humphries, Crowder, Beasley, Williams, etc.  I'm not dead set on Tate and I wont be upset if we dont sign him but using him as to smack your terrible logic around and show how utterly incompetent you are is good fun! 

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6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

100M is not as much as you think especially with 1/3 of your roster gone.  I agree the priority is to help Sam but you still have to watch what you spend on.  If we land Bell and one of the top pass rushers, a third of that cap is gone on only 2 players.

They're going to have more than 100mil when it's all said and done and they should have plenty to build around Sam.  And if not, then go bargain shopping on D and the areas where we need a warm body.  We've already invested a ton into that side of the ball and the D still sucks, so leave it be.  Spend on weaponz and OL because again, you cant put a price tag on Sam's development. 

My offseason plan is simple; sign Bell, sign 1 or 2 of: Tate, Humphries, Crowder, Beasley, Williams. Sign a C and G.  Draft pass rusher at #3 and offense the rest of the way; OL, WR, RB...all of it!   Find cheap warm bodies for the rest of the holes.  Hopefully Mac can actually hit on a few draft picks for once which would aid in this roster construction as well.  

Dont over complicate it.  Investing in Sam is all that matters.  They're not winning the Super Bowl next season.  They'll have another offseason to continue to add and another after that before we really see a competitive team.

#Mac's 7 year plan.

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13 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I think they are going to have to spend fairly big on at least 1 CB and 1 EDGE type -either OLB or DE who will presumably play DE in this system.

Saying they have spent big on D and it still sucks doesn't mean they don't have to field a team.  They spent big on the secondary, but all that is left at CB is Trumaine Johnson, Parry Nickerson and Derrick Jones. That is like sayng they spent on O line because they paid Long and Clady. 

 

I actually used the word "invested" vs. spent.  But I see your point and my still remains; go cheap and get warm bodies at every position that's not on offense.

They can find their DE at #3.  That's the way this draft is shaping up anyway.  I know there are a few edge rushers out there but once the dust settles with resigns and franchise tags, that pool will dwindle. CB - just bring back Mo for a year.  The D is done.  Force Mac to play his draft picks and expose his incompetence even more.

Now go surround Sam with all that money.

 

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