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4 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Must have struck a nerve....usually happens when an uncomfortable truth is presented.  

My point is, McVey is the one that chose the DC, drafted players and free agents to help is QB.

You eat a banana, you vulgar Neanderthal. I’ll eat cake.

Good point. 

 

I'll take a slice of cake as well. 

 

:-) 

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Rams made some really good player personnel moves.  No doubt McVay did a very good job helping Goff (much better than Fisher) I just never got the hype about him being the greatest coach ever

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1 hour ago, Jets86 said:

He was taken to the woodshed by Belichick. No shame in that. I'd take McVay as Jets coach any day.

Goff playing soft didn’t do him any favors

 

Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith have had way better games facing Belichick’s defenses

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3 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Must have struck a nerve....usually happens when an uncomfortable truth is presented.  

My point is, McVey is the one that chose the DC, drafted players and free agents to help his QB.

You eat a dick, you vulgar Neanderthal. I’ll eat cake.

Bro. Your point is simply illustrating the point I made. You didn’t strike a nerve. You just don’t know. Wtf you’re talking about. You think we’re having an argument, but you’re agreeing with me... but at a 3rd grade reading level.

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On 2/8/2019 at 12:27 PM, Villain The Foe said:

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As if I didnt know what was REALLY wrong with you. 

 

haha. 

Actually Einstein never made that comment.  In fact he was no fan of Tesla.  

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3 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Actually Einstein never made that comment.  In fact he was no fan of Tesla.  

Hey Jet Nut! :-) My bad, It was a joke made towards a troll. My intention wasnt to present incredible accuracy, but rather to return the troll-job.

And I would say that it was Tesla as well that was no fan of Einstein, or Edison for that matter. Not because of personal feelings, but because these guys were either perverting science and passing theories off as science or stealing actual inventions and claiming themselves as the inventor.

From my understanding, this one here...real quote. And I agree with it. 

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2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

Hey Jet Nut! :-) My bad, It was a joke made towards a troll. My intention wasnt to present incredible accuracy, but rather to return the troll-job.

And I would say that it was Tesla as well that was no fan of Einstein, or Edison for that matter. Not because of personal feelings, but because these guys were either perverting science and passing theories off as science or stealing actual inventions and claiming themselves as the inventor.

From my understanding, this one here...real quote. And I agree with it. 

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LOL, not a big deal.  But do remember this, Tesla was a whack job who eventually went crazy.  He imagined a hell of a lot of things and has become a weird sort of poster boy for being ripped off when its hard to figure out where and when it happened.  

Good science and history discussion though, lol

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On 2/9/2019 at 7:48 PM, Philc1 said:

Goff playing soft didn’t do him any favors

 

Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith have had way better games facing Belichick’s defenses

Goff failed to hit open receivers. He was confused when McVay wasn't in his ear. At some point, the QB can't be coddled anymore.

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12 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

LOL, not a big deal.  But do remember this, Tesla was a whack job who eventually went crazy. 

A whack job, based on "whose" account? 

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He imagined a hell of a lot of things and has become a weird sort of poster boy for being ripped off when its hard to figure out where and when it happened.  

Good science and history discussion though, lol

The only person who imagined a hell of a lot of things and became a poster child for being "a genius", was Einstein. Example:

How many inventions or discoveries by Einstein impact your life today, "throughout the day", on a daily basis? Einstein theories and concepts are literal imaginations, because they're his ideas. That's exactly where theories and concepts come from. lol. 

How many inventions or discoveries by Tesla impact your life today, "throughout the day", on a daily basis? Let's go through some of them in order to show how far beyond his time this "alleged whack job" was. 

You woke up this morning from an electrical alarm clock, you can thank Tesla. 

You wife, girlfriend or daughter uses a blow dryer to dry their hair, you can thank Tesla for parts used in blow dryers. 

When you go to your local store or barbershop and see their neon lights, you can thank Tesla for his creation of neon lights. 

If you live in Buffalo NY or NYC and you receive energy by way of Niagra Falls, you can thank Tesla. 

Using your phone to browse the web wirelessly? You can thank Tesla for his discovery of harnessing energy/signals wirelessly.

You injured your arm and need an x-ray? You can thank Tesla for his contribution of establishing a clearer x-ray picture called "Shadow Graphs". 

Listened to the radio driving to work? you can thank Tesla for better signal transmission...or the radio itself given his discovery of Radio Frequency signals (RF signals). 

You have a television and change channels with your remote control, you can thank Tesla for RF signals once again. 

Matter of fact, is there any electrical device that you plug into your wall in order to receive AC electricity? You can most definitely thank Tesla, as AC electricity is the global standard...which is his invention.  

How archeologist realized that the Great Pyramids of Giza were not a Pharaoh's tomb but an energy transmitter (the fact that they've yet to find a tomb in the Great pyramid supports this)? You can thank Tesla, as his "magnifying transmitter" works exactly the same way as the Pyramid's did, and both got their energy from underground water streams.....or "aquifers" on top of which they were built in order to harness and control the free energy generated by these aquifers. 

If Einstein never existed, nothing in your life would change because of it, outside of things we believe such as his genius on subjects such as energy....which again is all theoretical. 

If Tesla never existed, everything in your life would change because his influence is outside of "genius posterboy status" but in the real material world, as he was in inventor in the area of energy, frequency and vibration. 

So how in the world is Einstein considered a genius because of his theories of energy and math which has literally been posterized as scientific genius by overseers, yet those theories only live in the world of sci-fi television shows with a Darwin-like evolution foundation?  Yet, Tesla is considered a whack job though his literal and verifiable contributions in the energy and math field impacts this world more than arguably any other inventor after him? Who's the poster boy again?

Tesla is arguably the most influential scientist to ever live, based on his direct influence on the world AFTER his death. Einstein meanwhile lives on through poster boy popularity to the point that his name, and "genius" are interchangeable, yet he has contributed nothing to the space of real scientific discovery. Simply put, Einstein isnt a scientist, but a philosopher. 

I could even talk about inventions of his that has been ignored because it interrupts capitalism. Cars run on piston engines, not because there arent better options, but because of oil sales...sales by some of the same aristocrats that were his competitors back in the day (the same folks who were the alleged arsonists who burned down two of his projects). 

There's a difference between imagining a lot of things, and not even knowing whose inventions have been impacting your life every day since you've been born, and the inventor who's been impacting your life so immensely, was so ahead of his time that he was born over 160 years ago. 

A theorizing philosopher who's genius sits on nothing tangible or verifiable...yet "can't be challenged" due to poster boy status: Einstein

A scientific discoverer whose genius is verifiable simply by going about your day, yet is labeled a whack job: Tesla.

^^^^^The world we live in. 

As the great comedian Dave Chappelle once said. 

As well as take this relevant quote from Jay Z's Blueprint album:

"Cuz a dude wear a kufi (an image) it dont mean that he bright.

Cuz you dont understand him, it dont mean that he nice (a genius).

It just means you dont understand all the bullsh*t that he write.

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Okay, Einstein wasnt a genius and Tesla wasnt crazy.  LOL, don't know what our why you're ranting.  But it is the typical Tesla love story.  He was a whack because he went crazy.  

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17 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Okay, Einstein wasnt a genius and Tesla wasnt crazy.  LOL, don't know what our why you're ranting.  But it is the typical Tesla love story.  He was a whack because he went crazy.  

It's only a rant when folks have no comeback. No one's upset here. You included yourself in the conversation and made a statement that wasnt true. Clarifying real from fantasy isnt ranting, that's clarification. 

 

^^^^^^^^^Not a rant. 

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21 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

It's only a rant when folks have no comeback. No one's upset here. You including yourself in the conversation and made a statement that wasnt true. Clarifying real from fantasy isnt ranting, that's clarification. 

 

^^^^^^^^^Not a rant. 

You have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't made one statement here that wasn't true.  No matter how many paragraphs you write on the subject. Or stupid rap songs you quote. Tesla went crazy, you don't get that fine.  Knocking someone else doesn't change it anymore than a 10000 word response.  Your Einstein quote was wrong, he never said it.  You couldn't leave it.  And if you don't want people including themselves into conversations, when you were wrong, don't post on public forums and then get annoyed.

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5 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

It's only a rant when folks have no comeback. No one's here upset. You including yourself in the conversation and made a statement that wasnt true. Clarifying real from fantasy isnt ranting, that's clarification. 

 

^^^^^^^^^Not a rant. 

^^^^^Folks, you’re done here.  

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3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't made one statement here that wasn't true.  No matter how many paragraphs you write on the subject. Or stupid rap songs you quote. Tesla went crazy, you don't get that fine.  

Must I seriously point it out to you Jet Nut? 

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5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't made one statement here that wasn't true.  No matter how many paragraphs you write on the subject. Or stupid rap songs you quote. Tesla went crazy, you don't get that fine.  Knocking someone else doesn't change it anymore than a 10000 word response.

Sometimes it’s just better to concede defeat, and back out with some shred of dignity.  Do it...now.  

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13 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:
13 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Sometimes it’s just better to concede defeat, and back out with some shred of dignity.  Do it...now.  

 

Defeat?  The Einstein statement was wrong and Tesla went crazy.  If that's defeated, ok. 

Wow, just wow.  I'm done

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3 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Defeat?  The Einstein statement was wrong and Tesla went crazy.  If that's defeated, ok. 

Wow, just wow.  I'm done

Since when does “went crazy” negate Tesla’s accomplishments, his genius and discoveries that transformed the world?  

Why even mention the “crazy” in rebuttal?  

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3 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Since when does “went crazy” negate Tesla’s accomplishments, his genius and discoveries that transformed the world?  

Why even mention the “crazy” in rebuttal?  

Perhaps a reading course is in your future.  Because not once did I attempt to negate anything that Tesla did.  

And when he died he was pennieless and gone a bit crazy.  If those facts lead you to believe I negated any of his accomplishments, you suck with that line of thinking.  Funny you didn't seem to have an issue with someone trying to negate Einstein.  But you and your buddy had a fine time telling me I should quit because I was wrong.  Would help if you got any of it right.  History or what I said about Tesla.  

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23 hours ago, Jets86 said:

Goff failed to hit open receivers. He was confused when McVay wasn't in his ear. At some point, the QB can't be coddled anymore.

I’d love it if Goff ended up a one year wonder like Colin Kaepernick

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18 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't made one statement here that wasn't true.  

Yes you did. Here it goes below. 

On 2/10/2019 at 11:19 PM, Jet Nut said:

LOL, not a big deal.  But do remember this, Tesla was a whack job who eventually went crazy.  He imagined a hell of a lot of things and has become a weird sort of poster boy for being ripped off when its hard to figure out where and when it happened.  

Good science and history discussion though, lol

#1. He didnt just imagine a ton of things, things that are being created today are things he discovered 100 years ago. 

#2. Here's a clear instance of when Tesla got ripped off, and anyone with just basic knowledge of the history behind Tesla would know this. He was ripped off by Thomas Edison when working for Edison's company. Edison stated that he would pay Tesla a sum of money if he could fix/enhance his DC electric issue. Tesla created something much more efficient and practical than Edison's DC in every way. Edison went back on his word of paying Tesla and that's when Tesla left Edison's company. This is how Tesla even ended up in a position to begin working with George Westinghouse.

3. I asked you again "A whack job based on whose account", which you conveniently ignored. The truth is, Tesla was simply an eccentric individual who wasnt the center of attention, money hungry type that wanted to be idolized by "underlings" for his accomplishments. He was about his ideas and giving those ideas to the world. This is why he would stay in his home or in his office. Also, if this guy was so crazy and off his rocker, then the FBI wouldnt have confiscated everything in his room and keep it under wraps for 80 years, only to release some "declassified" information on the case in 2016 due to a freedom of information act that was filed. 

That's why Auntie Linda said this to you...

18 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Sometimes it’s just better to concede defeat, and back out with some shred of dignity.  Do it...now.  

 

18 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Defeat?  The Einstein statement was wrong and Tesla went crazy.  If that's defeated, ok. 

Wow, just wow.  I'm done

 

11 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Perhaps a reading course is in your future.  Because not once did I attempt to negate anything that Tesla did.  

And when he died he was pennieless and gone a bit crazy.  If those facts lead you to believe I negated any of his accomplishments, you suck with that line of thinking.  Funny you didn't seem to have an issue with someone trying to negate Einstein.  But you and your buddy had a fine time telling me I should quit because I was wrong.  Would help if you got any of it right.  History or what I said about Tesla.  

You did attempt to negate his contributions by solely labeling him as a crazy whack job who had nothing but imaginations and became a weird poster boy for allegedly getting ripped off. 

Also, Tesla didnt die penny-less, given that his room and board was paid by the board members of Westinghouse, which was partly, a function of his royalties. Royalties are an asset, is it not? He did however not become the 2nd Billionaire in history (Family of the Red Shield being the 1st) given the fact that he wasnt driven by money like Edison and others. His success was based directly on his contribution to the world. And to prove this fact along with showing how he was not crazy that this is a direct quote of his that you can also find on his wiki page: 

"Let the future tell the truth and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine"

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

100 years later, is this quote not true? Is Tesla not the most impactful inventor of today, even after his death almost a century ago? Do crazy people say brilliant things like this and it be true? How rich and important are his inventions in todays time??? The only thing crazy about Tesla was how "crazy accurate" this quote of his was. 

 

Also, no one had a problem with my Einstein position because I wasnt trying to make people believe that he was some sort of whack job crazy person. I simply showed that Einstein really wasnt a scientist, but a philosopher, given that what Einstein is most praised for are his "theories", not "discoveries" or "inventions". And the only thing that I was TRULY NEGATING was his "Genius poster boy status" that society has declared him, by asking the simple question "How is Einstein impacting your life on a daily basis" (Which you also never answered by the way)? And my questioning of Einsteins contribution is valid, simply by using the above quote by Tesla and then associating it to Einstein's contributions while looking at the world today.  

 

You werent comprehending what was being said, and that's why Auntie L said it was done. She could clearly see that you werent dealing with anything being presented to you, all you did was deflect or try to move the goalpost by changing the topic of discussion, like you tried to do below. Oh, and speaking of rants and tirades, lets re-review this quote of yours again and highlight those tirades. Lets see who's really ranting here. 

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You have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't made one statement here that wasn't true.  No matter how many paragraphs you write on the subject. Or stupid rap songs you quote. Tesla went crazy, you don't get that fine.  Knocking someone else doesn't change it anymore than a 10000 word response.  Your Einstein quote was wrong, he never said it.  You couldn't leave it.  And if you don't want people including themselves into conversations, when you were wrong, don't post on public forums and then get annoyed.

Even worse, you try to save face with this "Your Einstein quote was wrong, he never said it" statement as if I didnt explain this to you right here...

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Hey Jet Nut!  My bad, It was a joke made towards a troll. My intention wasnt to present incredible accuracy, but rather to return the troll-job.

But the best thing of all, is you trying to flip this conversation as me being wrong about the quote that I cleared up before you were then checked for the incorrect statement you made back at the beginning of this response to you. But more importantly, look at how I didnt run from the fact that you made a valid point, but instead acknowledged your position by explaining why I even used the quote. 

 

Before you call this a rant, then proceed to go on a rant, how about accepting the fact that maybe your position was a bit off. OR, present facts to support your position rather than talking about my 10,000 word responses, stupid rap quotes and saying that I have no idea what im talking about...meanwhile my 10,000 words and stupid quotes clearly show's that I've been the only person in this conversation supporting my position with facts and truths...instead of feelings and emotions...such as:

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Defeat?  The Einstein statement was wrong and Tesla went crazy.  If that's defeated, ok. 

Wow, just wow.  I'm done

How does "Wow" support your position? You accept no defeat, but all you can think up is how "wow'd" you are by the thought that someone felt like you should take your defeat with some class? The only thing I can say to this response of yours is..."Wow".

Now that I addressed these shenanigans, I will go and do what Auntie said and leave it here.

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3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

Yes you did. Here it goes below. 

#1. He didnt just imagine a ton of things, things that are being created today are things he discovered 100 years ago. 

#2. Here's a clear instance of when Tesla got ripped off, and anyone with just basic knowledge of the history behind Tesla would know this. He was ripped off by Thomas Edison when working for Edison's company. Edison stated that he would pay Tesla a sum of money if he could fix/enhance his DC electric issue. Tesla created something much more efficient and practical than Edison's DC in every way. Edison went back on his word of paying Tesla and that's when Tesla left Edison's company. This is how Tesla even ended up in a position to begin working with George Westinghouse.

3. I asked you again "A whack job based on whose account", which you conveniently ignored. The truth is, Tesla was simply an eccentric individual who wasnt the center of attention, money hungry type that wanted to be idolized by "underlings" for his accomplishments. He was about his ideas and giving those ideas to the world. This is why he would stay in his home or in his office. Also, if this guy was so crazy and off his rocker, then the FBI wouldnt have confiscated everything in his room and keep it under wraps for 80 years, only to release some "declassified" information on the case in 2016 due to a freedom of information act that was filed. 

That's why Auntie Linda said this to you...

 

 

You did attempt to negate his contributions by solely labeling him as a crazy whack job who had nothing but imaginations and became a weird poster boy for allegedly getting ripped off. 

Also, Tesla didnt die penny-less, given that his room and board was paid by the board members of Westinghouse, which was partly, a function of his royalties. Royalties are an asset, is it not? He did however not become the 2nd Billionaire in history (Family of the Red Shield being the 1st) given the fact that he wasnt driven by money like Edison and others. His success was based directly on his contribution to the world. And to prove this fact along with showing how he was not crazy that this is a direct quote of his that you can also find on his wiki page: 

"Let the future tell the truth and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine"

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

100 years later, is this quote not true? Is Tesla not the most impactful inventor of today, even after his death almost a century ago? Do crazy people say brilliant things like this and it be true? How rich and important are his inventions in todays time??? The only thing crazy about Tesla was how "crazy accurate" this quote of his was. 

 

Also, no one had a problem with my Einstein position because I wasnt trying to make people believe that he was some sort of whack job crazy person. I simply showed that Einstein really wasnt a scientist, but a philosopher, given that what Einstein is most praised for are his "theories", not "discoveries" or "inventions". And the only thing that I was TRULY NEGATING was his "Genius poster boy status" that society has declared him, by asking the simple question "How is Einstein impacting your life on a daily basis" (Which you also never answered by the way)? And my questioning of Einsteins contribution is valid, simply by using the above quote by Tesla and then associating it to Einstein's contributions while looking at the world today.  

 

You werent comprehending what was being said, and that's why Auntie L said it was done. She could clearly see that you werent dealing with anything being presented to you, all you did was deflect or try to move the goalpost by changing the topic of discussion, like you tried to do below. Oh, and speaking of rants and tirades, lets re-review this quote of yours again and highlight those tirades. Lets see who's really ranting here. 

Even worse, you try to save face with this "Your Einstein quote was wrong, he never said it" statement as if I didnt explain this to you right here...

But the best thing of all, is you trying to flip this conversation as me being wrong about the quote that I cleared up before you were then checked for the incorrect statement you made back at the beginning of this response to you. But more importantly, look at how I didnt run from the fact that you made a valid point, but instead acknowledged your position by explaining why I even used the quote. 

 

Before you call this a rant, then proceed to go on a rant, how about accepting the fact that maybe your position was a bit off. OR, present facts to support your position rather than talking about my 10,000 word responses, stupid rap quotes and saying that I have no idea what im talking about...meanwhile my 10,000 words and stupid quotes clearly show's that I've been the only person in this conversation supporting my position with facts and truths...instead of feelings and emotions...such as:

How does "Wow" support your position? You accept no defeat, but all you can think up is how "wow'd" you are by the thought that someone felt like you should take your defeat with some class? The only thing I can say to this response of yours is..."Wow".

Now that I addressed these shenanigans, I will go and do what Auntie said and leave it here.

You are the most annoying type of poster.  He went insane, sorry if you don't like it.  He wondered the streets of NYC feeding birds, a broken man.  Has nothing to do with his earlier accomplishments.  You think by propping up all he did accomplish, that anyone would agree he accomplished it somehow proves he didn't become the broken, reclusive wanderer that he was.  He was a great mind, no one is arguing that.  He lost it in the end.  Argue all you want.  

A simple comment, that your Einstein quote was wrong, and it was, has sent you off on a 20 paragraph rant talking about Tessa's.  God forbid you just leave it and move on.  Bye. 

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20 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Defeat?  The Einstein statement was wrong and Tesla went crazy.  If that's defeated, ok. 

Wow, just wow.  I'm done

I actually knew a guy who was related to Einstein

 

You want to talk about the apple falling far from the tree? 

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43 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Supporting my position with facts will do that to people who seem not to be able to do the same. 

Always going the ad hominem route. Typical.

Youre supporting nothing.  You just go on and on and on explaining something you for some reason think you need to prove.  I never said one disparaging comment about Teslas contributions, his genius, whatever.  He was a genius, anyone with half a brain gets this.  He went crazy in he end.  Sorry, its a fact.  He was a recluse.  Fact.  He lost all his money, fact.  He was maybe the worst business man in the history of science.  None of which diminishes what he accomplished.  If you didnt go on your rant trying to pound away at what no one is disputing and actually read what I wrote you would have gotten that.  But that wont ever happen.  So F' it, no one can get through to you

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26 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Youre supporting nothing.  

Saying this, is empty words without proof. What you mean to say is "what you said to support your argument I will ignore in order to conclude that you supported nothing". 

That's more accurate. You'd rather fuss than deal with the topic. To "support" that statement, you'd rather talk about me than the topic. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Saying this, is empty words without proof. What you mean to say is "what you said to support your argument I will ignore in order to conclude that you supported nothing". 

That's more accurate. You'd rather fuss than deal with the topic. To "support" that statement, you'd rather talk about me than the topic. 

 

OMG you are totally annoying.  

You have no idea what you are arguing about, its just pointless 

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