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He just needs to be red shirted for a few more years.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

He just needs to be red shirted for a few more years.

Yeah, lots of well run teams carry 4 qbs one of whom wears pajamas 

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

He just needs to be red shirted for a few more years.

He's worn the entire color wheel of shirts at this point. 

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It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue.

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17 minutes ago, GaryM said:

It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue.

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23 minutes ago, GaryM said:

It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue. 

The last drafted Jets player to have struggles here and then go on to any noteworthy impact on another team was probably Jonathan Vilma.  The core issues for the Jets over the last decade have been an inability to bring IN NFL-caliber players, not their failure to develop hidden gems. 

This wasn't the coaching staff's failure to develop a QB with known, significant accuracy problems.  Problems at the level Hackenberg had never get fixed at the pro level.  If you can't complete 60 % of your throws against Indiana, you're not gonna do it against even the worst NFL defenses. 

Its easy and fair to be critical of everything the Jets do.  They hire bad GM's and bad HC's.  But in this case, the blame for Christian Hackenberg falls squarely on Mike Maccagnan. 

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Give the guy credit for trying to correct his problems. Can't get on him for persistence. Wish him luck. Would be a great comeback story, thats for sure.

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It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue.

I thought you were serious for a minute. Good one.


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34 minutes ago, GaryM said:

It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue.

Others with no clue... Chan Gailey, Jeremy Bates, John Morton, Jon Gruden, Bill Lazor, Alex Van Pelt, Doug Pederson, Mike Groh, Greg Olson, etc.  

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What is this the third or fourth time we've heard Hack's been fixed?  Look it's not Hack's fault he was over drafted and never lived up to expectations that falls on the Jets and he is right he's only 23 so if he can show anything in this new league I wouldn't be surprised to see him get another shot to at least be a backup somewhere in the NFL next year.  

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4 hours ago, GaryM said:

It is just like the Jets to never realize players potential. Watch Hack come back and  be a productive QB with some real coaching...Mac and Bowles had no clue.

I agree with the Bowles part, but Suckenberg really was that bad

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4 hours ago, drsamuel84 said:

What is this the third or fourth time we've heard Hack's been fixed?  Look it's not Hack's fault he was over drafted and never lived up to expectations that falls on the Jets and he is right he's only 23 so if he can show anything in this new league I wouldn't be surprised to see him get another shot to at least be a backup somewhere in the NFL next year.  

Did they also fix his inability to read defenses, avoid the rush, identify an open receiver, and get rid of the ball before being crushed by the rush, while he shuffles his feet and eats the ball?  I doubt it.  You as a Dr. should recognize when the patient is too far gone to be resuscitated, this patient is D.O.A.

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Hackenberg has identified his throwing motion as problematic before, though, and it did nothing to keep him in the NFL. After working out with Lee confidant Jeff Christensen last offseason, Hackenberg blamed a lack of Jets feedback for stunting his development.

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I hope he does OK. I'm Glad David Lee isn't coaching Darnold. 

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7 hours ago, kelly said:

I'm back in!  Sign this beast!!!

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If anyone is mildly interested in the AAF league starting up this weekend.  Here are the former Jets players that are on teams in the league.  Source if you want to see all the former NFL players and who they are playing for.  

 

Arizona Hotshots Atlanta Legends Birmingham Iron Memphis Express Orlando Apollos Salt Lake Stallions San Antonio Commanders San Diego Fleet
LB Obum Gwacham, LB Edmond Robinson, CB Dexter McDougle, K Nick Folk QB Matt Simms, LB Dylan Donahue TE Braedon Bowman QB Christian Hackenberg, RB Zac Stacy, DT Anthony Johnson WR Jalin Marshall LB Trevor Reilly LB Deion Barnes CB Kendall James

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34 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said:

If anyone is mildly interested in the AAF league starting up this weekend.  Here are the former Jets players that are on teams in the league.  Source if you want to see all the former NFL players and who they are playing for.  

 

 

Arizona Hotshots Atlanta Legends Birmingham Iron Memphis Express Orlando Apollos Salt Lake Stallions San Antonio Commanders San Diego Fleet
LB Obum Gwacham, LB Edmond Robinson, CB Dexter McDougle, K Nick Folk QB Matt Simms, LB Dylan Donahue TE Braedon Bowman QB Christian Hackenberg, RB Zac Stacy, DT Anthony Johnson WR Jalin Marshall LB Trevor Reilly LB Deion Barnes CB Kendall James

 

What channel is the AAF on?  ESPN?  What time is the game?  I might watch.

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I will try to check it out. I was just looking over the rules and saw this:

  • There will be no kickoffs; halves, odd overtime periods and after scores will begin on each team's own 25-yard line, the same as touchbacks in the NFL and NCAA. In lieu of an onside kick, a team can keep possession of the ball by attempting a scrimmage play from their own 28-yard line and gaining at least 12 yards.[22] (The original proposal for this play had teams making a 10-yard play from the 35-yard line.)[21][2]

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Hide your windows. Hide your windshields. Cause everybody’s getting hit with errant throws up in here.

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I don't understand the hatred for this kid. He didn't chose to be drafted where he was drafted or by us. He didn't decide he wanted to be on our team where his best coaches weren't capable of coaching peewee football. The kid never played a snap for us. It's not like he came in and threw a ton of interceptions and cost us games...he tried to make the team and wasn't good so we cut ties why blame him?

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16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'm back in!  Sign this beast!!!

..if he can play te  😎

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22 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said:

And Vilma wasn't so much bad as he was simply playing in the wrong system. 

We have seemed to do that a lot over the years... especially with LBs; remember how James Farrior was deemed a bust? Then he went to PIT...

As a franchise we never seem to learn that square pegs in round holes doesnt work...

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15 hours ago, Drums said:

I will try to check it out. I was just looking over the rules and saw this:

  • There will be no kickoffs; halves, odd overtime periods and after scores will begin on each team's own 25-yard line, the same as touchbacks in the NFL and NCAA. In lieu of an onside kick, a team can keep possession of the ball by attempting a scrimmage play from their own 28-yard line and gaining at least 12 yards.[22] (The original proposal for this play had teams making a 10-yard play from the 35-yard line.)[21][2]

Shades of the NFL.  Make and modify existing rules in order to make the game worse.  Just glancing at the rosters, the kickers seem to be a strength, in making the appearance of the league as "legitimate".  So in typical modern day sports league fashion, they make rule changes to further minimize the position.  Same case with the "onside kick substitute".  Ten yards from the 35, at least seems reasonable, both as a  gamble and risk/reward.  So of course they have to "tweak it" making it less reasonable.  Typical.  PS Seems like Hackensh*t will not be the starter, even in this league.  Bet  Mettenberger  beats him out.

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1 hour ago, Awesumtenor said:

We have seemed to do that a lot over the years... especially with LBs; remember how James Farrior was deemed a bust? Then he went to PIT...

As a franchise we never seem to learn that square pegs in round holes doesnt work... 

Those are pretty much the only 2 examples.  It doesn't happen "a lot".

We really just suck at picking the good players.  We're one of the worst teams in the NFL, historically, in that regard.

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16 hours ago, JETSfaninNE said:

If anyone is mildly interested in the AAF league starting up this weekend.  Here are the former Jets players that are on teams in the league.  Source if you want to see all the former NFL players and who they are playing for.  

 

 

Arizona Hotshots Atlanta Legends Birmingham Iron Memphis Express Orlando Apollos Salt Lake Stallions San Antonio Commanders San Diego Fleet
LB Obum Gwacham, LB Edmond Robinson, CB Dexter McDougle, K Nick Folk QB Matt Simms, LB Dylan Donahue TE Braedon Bowman QB Christian Hackenberg, RB Zac Stacy, DT Anthony Johnson WR Jalin Marshall LB Trevor Reilly LB Deion Barnes CB Kendall James

 

Dylan Donahue. hic....hic...... hic... hiccup.... Yeah- theres the tunnel!!!!! hic..🍸

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