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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Saffold has been there with Gurley for his entire career so he obviously gets credit there.

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I think our priority is too rebuild the interior of our line. Saffold at RG, would be a huge upgrade, as would Paradis or Morse at C. We might have to find our LG in the draft. That's why trading down and getting a 2nd round pick back, makes sense. Lindstrom would fit in real nice there.

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Just now, genot said:

I think our priority is too rebuild the interior of our line. Saffold at RG, would be a huge upgrade, as would Paradis or Morse at C. We might have to find our LG in the draft. That's why trading down and getting a 2nd round pick back, makes sense. Lindstrom would fit in real nice there.

But you can’t go into the draft NEEDING to draft your starting LG.   Maccagnan has to find a starting LG and Center at minimum in free agency.  

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10 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

But you can’t go into the draft NEEDING to draft your starting LG.   Maccagnan has to find a starting LG and Center at minimum in free agency.  

I don't see a quality LG, out there. Maybe a cap casuality candidate will turn up.

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Just now, genot said:

I don't see a quality LG, out there. Maybe a cap casuality candidate will turn up.

Well he needs to find someone.  Bring back Long if everything else fails.  

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Very solid options and they are options I made sure I wrote down in my mock FA’s. I’m very hopeful that we can at least get one or two of these guys.

i do doubt Paradis makes it go FA though.

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3 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Well he needs to find someone.  Bring back Long if everything else fails.  

We went to the AFCCG with a ToddBurger at LG....if the rest of the line is solid, Long would be fine.

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5 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Well he needs to find someone.  Bring back Long if everything else fails.  

I think he will. Don't laugh at me. That dude from Kutztown is intriguing me. Perfect size for a LG. Very athletic. Can he stay healthy and be coached up.

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Paradis should be our #1 priority this free agency.

Morse would be a very good signing if we can’t land Paradis.

Saffold would be great for another few years.

That has Center and Right Guard covered. Shell’s injury wasn’t major so he’ll be back at Right Tackle.

Unless we can trade down and draft Jonah Williams (He’s not worth a #3) I’m ok with Beechum back for another year. While, not the long term answer, he is very underrated and good enough to start next season.

Left Guard is still a hole. Carpenter shouldn’t be, and won’t be back. Long did okay at guard, but I think most fans overrated how well he did. Would be a cheap signing fill in for a year if we draft someone in the middle rounds to compete.

Really need to come out of free agency with Center and one of the guards taken care of. 

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3 minutes ago, genot said:

I think he will. Don't laugh at me. That dude from Kutztown is intriguing me. Perfect size for a LG. Very athletic. Can he stay healthy and be coached up.

Anything is possible.  You just can’t count on Morgan being the answer at LG though.  Maybe he develops, but if you go into camp with him as your LG1, that’s risky.  

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2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Anything is possible.  You just can’t count on Morgan being the answer at LG though.  Maybe he develops, but if you go into camp with him as your LG1, that’s risky.  

For sure. I can see a scenario where Long,{or another veteran signed],competes with Morgan for the job, and Morgan grabs it.

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The kid from USC Damian Mamma who played last night in the new football league also blocked for Sam Darnold.  If we could bring back his center who was plucked from our practice squad by Denver would be a nice young combination to grow.

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5 hours ago, genot said:

I don't see a quality LG, out there. Maybe a cap casuality candidate will turn up.

Saffold is a LG and I'm assuming people are forgetting that Winters will be back as the starting RG. Unless I'm missing something. 

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8 minutes ago, genot said:

Ummm that was written in 2015. He started at LG all of last year. He's actually started his last 46 games at LG.

 

Brian Winters is not going anywhere. They're not going to create another opening on the offensive line for no reason. Winters would look much better with competent play at Center and the LG spot.

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Winters also wasn't bad last season. The collective offensive line was bad but individually he played well. He was ranked the #34 Guard in the league by PFF. There are 64 starting guards in the league so you could definitely do a lot worse.

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18 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Ummm that was written in 2015. He started at LG all of last year. He's actually started his last 46 games at LG.

 

Brian Winters is not going anywhere. They're not going to create another opening on the offensive line for no reason. Winters would look much better with competent play at Center and the LG spot.

 

8 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Winters also wasn't bad last season. The collective offensive line was bad but individually he played well. He was ranked the #34 Guard in the league by PFF. There are 64 starting guards in the league so you could definitely do a lot worse.

Saffold was ranked 8th. This isn't about me hating on Winters. I just think Saffold would certainly upgrade the position.

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8 minutes ago, genot said:

 

Saffold was ranked 8th. This isn't about me hating on Winters. I just think Saffold would certainly upgrade the position.

They play different positions! IDK how much more I need to spell out that Saffold is a LG. He's started at RG a handful of times and he's started at LG the last 46 games. He's a LG and Winters is a RG. Your article about Saffold from 2015 did nothing to dissuade me of those facts.

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Just now, choon328 said:

They play different positions! IDK how much more I need to spell out that Saffold is a LG. He's started at RG a handful of times and he's started at LG the last 46 games. He's a LG and Winters is a RG. Your article about Saffold from 2015 did nothing to dissuade me of those facts.

Saffold has played every position on the line. If it wasn't for injuries he would have played RG for the Rams. They,[the rams], think that's his ideal position. But what do they know.

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17 minutes ago, choon328 said:

They play different positions! IDK how much more I need to spell out that Saffold is a LG. He's started at RG a handful of times and he's started at LG the last 46 games. He's a LG and Winters is a RG. Your article about Saffold from 2015 did nothing to dissuade me of those facts.

Saffold's been hurt alot. That concerns me.

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13 minutes ago, genot said:

Saffold has played every position on the line. If it wasn't for injuries he would have played RG for the Rams. They,[the rams], think that's his ideal position. But what do they know.

You're quoting an article from 2015 and the quote is from Jeff Fisher. He hasn't been the Coach there for 2 years. Prior to 2015 he mainly played LT but was not good there so they had him moving around the line to find a spot. But since then he's started 46 straight games at LG so they must've figured out his ideal position. A question for you, if he's started at LG for the past 3 seasons, including one with Fisher, why would you move him to RG? And if he's the 8th ranked Guard in the NFL while playing LG last year why would you move him to RG? You're making no sense. Just admit that you're wrong, like many others in this thread about his position. 

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6 minutes ago, genot said:

Saffold's been hurt alot. That concerns me.

He's missed 2 games in his last 3 years. If you want to go back 4-8 years ago then yes he missed time bc of injury but recent history suggests otherwise.

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3 minutes ago, choon328 said:

He's missed 2 games in his last 3 years. If you want to go back 4-8 years ago then yes he missed time bc of injury but recent history suggests otherwise.

Your being disagreeable, just for the sake of being disagreeable. Why, i have no idea. He's played both guard spots. He's excelled at both guard spots. Would he be an upgrade over Winters at RG. I think he would.

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5 minutes ago, genot said:

Your being disagreeable, just for the sake of being disagreeable. Why, i have no idea. He's played both guard spots. He's excelled at both guard spots. Would he be an upgrade over Winters at RG. I think he would.

You are just wrong. He started like 10 games at RG out of 114 in his entire career. Definitely not enough to say he excelled at that position. You'd make a better argument by saying he can play LT bc at least he's played more than 10 games at LT.

So in your theory we would move Saffold to RG even though he was the 8th rated guard in the NFL at LG and then cut Winters who played well by PFF standards therefore creating another open spot on the line? That is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

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Great job by the "author" who seems to have had  a couple of extra minutes on his hands to spew out an article, featuring the three most obvious free agents available, two of which are centers.  If I had my druthers. I would sign Mitch Morse, for the center position.  He's younger than Paradis, would be more attainable and less costly, with similar impact.  At the Tackle position I would make a play for Tampa's Donovan Smith, who is huge, has started every game over his four years in the NFL and can play both sides.  He is also from Hempstead, so that could be a plus.  I would also strongly consider resigning Long if the price is right.  He is versatile and can add depth at two positions, while buffering the impact of a complete overhaul of the offensive line.  At right tackle Daryl Williams may be out there, but is recovering from an injury, and may draw interest from the hated Gints who may have an inside track because of Dave Gettleman, who I believe drafted him.

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38 minutes ago, choon328 said:

You are just wrong. He started like 10 games at RG out of 114 in his entire career. Definitely not enough to say he excelled at that position. You'd make a better argument by saying he can play LT bc at least he's played more than 10 games at LT.

So in your theory we would move Saffold to RG even though he was the 8th rated guard in the NFL at LG and then cut Winters who played well by PFF standards therefore creating another open spot on the line? That is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

If you think Saffold isn't an upgrade over Winters, then you've got your head in the sand. If you watch Jet football, you'll realize that run blocking is a serious problem across the entire line. Your LG, is usually the most athletic of the two guards. Saffold at 31 years old, would move to RG, and still excell, because he's very strong at the point of attack, and would have to rely less on his athleticism, then he would at LG. At 31 yrs old, he's probably not as nimble as he used to be.

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13 minutes ago, genot said:

If you think Saffold isn't an upgrade over Winters, then you've got your head in the sand. If you watch Jet football, you'll realize that run blocking is a serious problem across the entire line. Your LG, is usually the most athletic of the two guards. Saffold at 31 years old, would move to RG, and still excell, because he's very strong at the point of attack, and would have to rely less on his athleticism, then he would at LG. At 31 yrs old, he's probably not as nimble as he used to be.

First off, I didn't say he wouldn't be an upgrade over Winters. What i said is that they play different positions and I proved that.

So in 2018 he's one of the best LG's in the league and in 2019 he won't have enough athleticism to play LG? WTF are you talking about. Age isn't always a determining factor in athleticism. That's such a simplistic view. Andrew Whitworth was 37 this year and ranked as the #3 Tackle in the league as a LT. In your view he should've played RT bc of his age. You just continue to be wrong. 

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1 hour ago, choon328 said:

You are just wrong. He started like 10 games at RG out of 114 in his entire career. Definitely not enough to say he excelled at that position. You'd make a better argument by saying he can play LT bc at least he's played more than 10 games at LT.

So in your theory we would move Saffold to RG even though he was the 8th rated guard in the NFL at LG and then cut Winters who played well by PFF standards therefore creating another open spot on the line? That is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

https://ramsondemand.com/threads/rodger-saffold-expects-to-start-week-1-at-right-guard.39455/   Read the comments from Rams fans. Is Brian winters married to your daughter or something. Saffold can play RG, has played RG, and would be a big upgrade over Winters.

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7 minutes ago, choon328 said:

First off, I didn't say he wouldn't be an upgrade over Winters. What i said is that they play different positions and I proved that.

So in 2018 he's one of the best LG's in the league and in 2019 he won't have enough athleticism to play LG? WTF are you talking about. Age isn't always a determining factor in athleticism. That's such a simplistic view. Andrew Whitworth was 37 this year and ranked as the #3 Tackle in the league as a LT. In your view he should've played RT bc of his age. You just continue to be wrong. 

There's nothing wrong about it. My position is the entire interior of the Jets line needs an overhaul. LG, C, RG. If we sign Saffold, I'd insert him at RG. I think he'd perform as well or better there than at LG. Why. Because he's very strong, and he'd have a better chance of keeping all these stud d tackles from collapsing the pocket, which has been a problem for a while with the Jets.

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32 minutes ago, choon328 said:

First off, I didn't say he wouldn't be an upgrade over Winters. What i said is that they play different positions and I proved that.

So in 2018 he's one of the best LG's in the league and in 2019 he won't have enough athleticism to play LG? WTF are you talking about. Age isn't always a determining factor in athleticism. That's such a simplistic view. Andrew Whitworth was 37 this year and ranked as the #3 Tackle in the league as a LT. In your view he should've played RT bc of his age. You just continue to be wrong. 

In fairness i have to say that he feels more comfortable at LG, and might not sign with a team that moves him somewhere else

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As a rookie Winters was the worst guard I’ve ever seen, now the stats back up that he’s risen to mediocre - a few more years and he could be competent...maybe Canton after that.  The arrows  pointing up👆 

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Winters is our RG & he's under contract. A competent Center like Paradis or Morse helps him. Saffold would be our LG. If we made those 2 signing & were able to trade back and draft Jawaan Taylor as our future LT. Beachum would be a great mentor for Taylor, then we could get another Guard in the 3rd round. 

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