Jetster Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 We're all certain that the offensive line will be rebuilt but the defense will also be tweaked with Williams leading the charge. Will a free agent LB be targeted? No ones mentioned the LB position except to say Lee sucks, Jenkins & Avery are too slow footed & Brandon Copeland looks like a keeper. This is going to be an interesting development after Williams & his group review film from 2018. There are probably 3-4 players wondering what their future is with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If Skrine is on the roster next September I’m giving up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I would hope that realistically they cut ties with Skrine and Anderson who doesn't fit the new scheme as a 4-3 or DT unfortunately. I personally really don't see where Jordan Jenkins fits in with this new scheme either unfortunately. I don't think he has the speed and sideline to sideline ability to play MLB nor the coverage abilities to play OLB and cover RBs and TEs if that's the way the new scheme works. I don't think the defense if far off. If they plug in an impact interior lineman and put him next to Leo that'll in turn improve Leo's play dramatically I think. They need another quality CB even if Claiborne returns seeing as him and Trumaine Johnson are injury prone and I would get a MLB to play what I think is a key role in Greg Williams defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 free agent LBs to watch once free agency begins. CJ Mosley, Preston Smith, Za'darius Smith. With Lee, Jenkins, Williamson all having their warts it will be interesting what Williams thinks about these guys relative to his scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think Jenkins will likely be traded. He's a bad fit for the 4-3. The bright side is he had good year last year, so his trade value is as high as it likely can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think Jenkins is probably going to get moved. Lee is probably a better fit for the 4-3. I'm guessing Avery will be the Mike, Lee will be the Will and the Sam isn't on the roster. Pure speculation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: I think Jenkins is probably going to get moved. Lee is probably a better fit for the 4-3. I'm guessing Avery will be the Mike, Lee will be the Will and the Sam isn't on the roster. Pure speculation though. I thought the Mike in this scheme had to be fleet of foot? or is it the Will? I'm confused, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Jetster said: I thought the Mike in this scheme had to be fleet of foot? or is it the Will? I'm confused, lol. I mean all of the linebackers in a 4-3 need to be able to move. I see Lee as more of an OLB because blitzing and covering seems more suited to him than being a sideline to sideline tackle machine, but it's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jetster said: I thought the Mike in this scheme had to be fleet of foot? or is it the Will? I'm confused, lol. That would be the Will. Lee. Avery has the size for Mike. Hewitt at Sam. Surprise candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, genot said: That would be the Will. Lee. Avery has the size for Mike. Hewitt at Sam. Surprise candidate I thought Brandon Copeland outplayed Hewitt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jetster said: I thought Brandon Copeland outplayed Hewitt? I think your right. Hewitt might have more speed than Copland, though.That could be a difference maker in Williams eye????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F00tballGuy69 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 At minimum, we need 2 ends and a linebacker. I agree with most of the above posts that Jenkins is not a 4-3 end. Keep an eye on linebacker Kwon Alexander (TB) in free agency. He's everything we expected Darron Lee to be. If Bowles is bringing his 3-4 to Tampa, I don't think they'd see him as a fit. Pair him with Lee & Williamson and that's a solid starting 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, genot said: I think your right. Hewitt might have more speed than Copland, though.That could be a difference maker in Williams eye????? Hewitt looked way better than Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, F00tballGuy69 said: At minimum, we need 2 ends and a linebacker. I agree with most of the above posts that Jenkins is not a 4-3 end. Keep an eye on linebacker Kwon Alexander (TB) in free agency. He's everything we expected Darron Lee to be. If Bowles is bringing his 3-4 to Tampa, I don't think they'd see him as a fit. Pair him with Lee & Williamson and that's a solid starting 3. Besides Skrine who simply letting him go is an upgrade to the defense I think cutting Lee is almost a necessity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, genot said: That would be the Will. Lee. Avery has the size for Mike. Hewitt at Sam. Surprise candidate Lee most likely will try & fill this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Hewitt looked way better than Lee Let's see what happens here. Williams isn't gonna play anyone who shies away from contact. It's a different defense. Lee will be playing the same role he played at Ohio State. We have to trust at this point Williams judgement. He's been around a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Id be shocked if CJ mosely hit FA. The ravens love him, but if he somehow did dont be surprised if the jets make a run at him. Extremely Smart and while Williamson will be a good Mike, Williams Defense wants the mike to drop into the deeper middle if they go into a Tampa 2 coverage. Mosely would be a better fit to do this than williamson. I also believe Williamson can play the Sam in this defense so it allows for some versatility. The only downside is that is a lot of money invested into the LB position. It'll be interesting to see what they jets do because they need to add talent at both DE positions and a corner. On defense alone the jets need to add somewhere around 4-maybe 5 starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, jetsons said: Lee most likely will try & fill this role. More to talk about this off season. So much, juggling of personal. New coaching staff. Lot's of money to spend. And the draft, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Hewitt looked way better than Lee Different defense. Lets see what Williams does. One thing we know. He's not gonna put up with anyone who shies away from contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Hewitt looked way better than Lee I had a complete brain drain. Check out my double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Jetster said: I thought the Mike in this scheme had to be fleet of foot? or is it the Will? I'm confused, lol. in the base D he's the will. There was an interesting thread on here today about williams scheme and how he runs a decent amount of tampa 2 where Lee would probably be better at mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerfish Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Trania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Trania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Why is everyone assuming we run a base 4-3. Williams himself says he is flexible, so I am not sure that switch is quite etched in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 why does everybody say Lee and blitzing? He is the most easily blocked LB i have ever seen...he may as well run out the tunnel , cos he aint gonna get the QB there either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, genot said: Let's see what happens here. Williams isn't gonna play anyone who shies away from contact. It's a different defense. Lee will be playing the same role he played at Ohio State. We have to trust at this point Williams judgement. He's been around a long time. I agree Lee is more suited to play in 4-3 I just don’t think he will ever be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Losmeister said: why does everybody say Lee and blitzing? He is the most easily blocked LB i have ever seen...he may as well run out the tunnel , cos he aint gonna get the QB there either Lee is utter garbage and he keeps getting chances In coverage Lee gets abused by everyone and that isn’t really affected by whether it’s base 4-3 or 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I agree Lee is more suited to play in 4-3 I just don’t think he will ever be good If he doesn't perform in Williams defense, he'll be gone. No more nice, nice, with players not doing their job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Not sure why everyone is assuming Jenkins is a bad fit? The Sam linebacker in a 4-3 typically has a similar skill set to Jenkins. Jenkins actually might be a better fit as a Sam in the 4-3 than he was in the 3-4.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Williams will need a 4-3 NT (which we would need either way). He will also need a rush end. I think the other DT and DE can be filled on the roster depending on where Leo fits in. Those two positions can be filled by 3-4 DE types and we have a few of them. As far as LB goes I think We could use depth. Lee Williamson and Jenkins should be a good set of LBs.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, RSJ said: Williams will need a 4-3 NT (which we would need either way). He will also need a rush end. I think the other DT and DE can be filled on the roster depending on where Leo fits in. Those two positions can be filled by 3-4 DE types and we have a few of them. As far as LB goes I think We could use depth. Lee Williamson and Jenkins should be a good set of LBs. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Mo Lewis played in both the 4-3 and then 3-4 under Parcells. So did Marvin Jones. Jenkins and Lewis, both out of GA, are similar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, varjet said: Mo Lewis played in both the 4-3 and then 3-4 under Parcells. So did Marvin Jones. Jenkins and Lewis, both out of GA, are similar players. I agree. Jenkins is very similar to Mo Lewis. Jones is also very similar to WIlliamson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, RSJ said: Not sure why everyone is assuming Jenkins is a bad fit? The Sam linebacker in a 4-3 typically has a similar skill set to Jenkins. Jenkins actually might be a better fit as a Sam in the 4-3 than he was in the 3-4. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Agree. I actually think Sam linebacker is Jenkins natural position in the nfl The giants moved Kiwanuka to LB in a 4-3 and Jenkins is probably better tackling in space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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