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I always thought the Jets would bring him back as as guard. If that's the case, I wonder if either the Bills gave him basically the same contract we gave him, or he's pissed we cut him.

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Lets see how much he signed for.  This sign and cut move is something that happens when you switch GMs, not when you keep the same GM.

Long was not part of the solution, but he was not part of the problem.  Dozier, Qvale and Carpenter are part of the problem.  

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12 minutes ago, varjet said:

Lets see how much he signed for.  This sign and cut move is something that happens when you switch GMs, not when you keep the same GM.

Long was not part of the solution, but he was not part of the problem.  Dozier, Qvale and Carpenter are part of the problem.  

I wanted him as our backup to both guard positions and center. That is valuable. I’d be fine with letting him go if it weren’t for all the holes that we had. I would have kept him and still possibly cut him later on which would have still saved about $3mil anyways.

Sure we would have lost his $3mil roster bonus due 2/6/19 but considering our o-line situation and lack of FA options and our lack of depth, this is probably a bad move. Time will tell. 

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14 minutes ago, varjet said:

Long was not part of the solution, but he was not part of the problem.

stab yourself in the eyes

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Wow, looks like a 3yr, 13M contract with incentives up to 15M.  He got a raise??

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Wow, looks like a 3yr, 13M contract with incentives up to 15M.  He got a raise!!

That doesn't seem to be the case. The contact would be about 4.3 to 5 Million a year. 

In 2019, his salary with the jets would have been 3 million, but in 2020 and 2021 it would have been over 6.25 and 6.65 respectively so even if he earns the incentives he will still make less than his Jets deal would have paid over the next 3 years.

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12 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Wow, looks like a 3yr, 13M contract with incentives up to 15M.  He got a raise!!

No he didn’t. He’s making about 2 million less with the Bills.

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I'm still a little surprised we let go of him considering our issues on the line. We're not really in a position to be cutting capable guys...

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2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm still a little surprised we let go of him considering our issues on the line. We're not really in a position to be cutting capable guys...

Hopefully it means we plan on drafting some olinemen for a change.

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I'm thinking it's a similar contract to what the Jets gave him. 

2019-$3 million guaranteed ($2 million more in incentives)

2020/2021-$5 million each year not guaranteed. 

If they guaranteed anything beyond this year they're fools.

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8 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Hopefully it means we plan on drafting some olinemen for a change.

The Jets will draft at least one lineman and sign at least 2.  

The guys they sign will be alot more expensive than Long.

I do believe that they were better off keeping long for his contract amount, at least now.  I will be proven wrong if they draft and sign upgrades.

After the Pete Kendall incident, the Jets starting to take the OL seriously and had success.  I don't see any evidence that the Jets have started to the OL seriously.  

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This opens up the possibility we might sign a Guard.  Before, I thought we'd bring Long back and start him and Winters there.

Give me Rodger Saffold, please!

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Jets need a new guard, center and right tackle. How can you count on Brandon shell coming off of surgery? You cant only guy returning will be Winters

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4 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

Jets need a new guard, center and right tackle. How can you count on Brandon shell coming off of surgery? You cant only guy returning will be Winters

Fortunately it’s a deep market at OL for free agents plus Mac will also draft Jonah

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so we got rid a bad player...great! getting darnold hurt was his downfall. completely in love with this move. Only jet fans would argue to keep a guy who can't snap on the team.

This is a great move, hopefully more like it to come!

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it's not like he was a tackle. or even center.  he would've been a guard.  they aren't a dime a dozen but there are quite a few of near equal talent.

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I think Mac is thinking he would rather take the $6mm and apply it to Saffold's $12mm.

That may be the right move.  

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Their oline sucks. They need help a OT, OG and OC so that signing makes sense. He’s an average OG and can play OC (when he has two hands) good enough to get by. 

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Lmaoo Allen Run after catch ability about to increase ten fold 

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8 minutes ago, The Crimson King said:

Always gets me nervous when teams start signing players and the Jets haven't

Except when some of the guys are ex-Jets. Then I crack open another beer.😀

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3 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I wanted him as our backup to both guard positions and center. That is valuable. I’d be fine with letting him go if it weren’t for all the holes that we had. I would have kept him and still possibly cut him later on which would have still saved about $3mil anyways.

Sure we would have lost his $3mil roster bonus due 2/6/19 but considering our o-line situation and lack of FA options and our lack of depth, this is probably a bad move. Time will tell. 

I am always happy to see people that did not measure up go.  It is better than seeing guys you gave no opportunity to go.

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2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm still a little surprised we let go of him considering our issues on the line. We're not really in a position to be cutting capable guys...

I agree.  Beggars can't be choosers and Long would immediately pencil in as a starting LG for the Jets while we work on upgrading at least 2 or 3 other spots.  I always thought that upgrading Center (ex. FA Paradis) while sliding Long to LG and retaining Winters for another year would be a good interim solution for the interior 3 spots on the OLine while the Jets look to get younger and upgrade through the Draft.  Cutting Long certainly isn't being done because the Jets need the Cap space so I'm wondering what's up.

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Gee Greg Williams isn't going exploit such a fine player 😎

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Long is an upgrade for the Bills. As bad as the Jets O-Line is the Bill’s were not far behind if at all.

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Let's not cry over spilt milk.  When the Jets cut Long they did so with the full intention of letting him go.  Permanently.  It was not a knee jerk reaction, based on an incident.  It was a reasoned response based on cost, past performance and future expectation.  That's fine with me.  Next.

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