Bruce Harper Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Thai Jet said: Wish the idiot Todd would have given Webb some reps when Sam was hurt so we'd know a little about what we have. My suspicion is that Webb sucks or the Giants would not have released him after drafting him fairly high and watching Eli slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 McCown and Webb? One in back in his player/ Coach Role l and the other in development ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Case Keenam is likely free now,no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Pac said: McCown was paid 10 mil because he was the starter the year before and presumed to be the starter this year. Tannehill has been hurt much of the last 2 years and hasn't played particularly well when hes healthy. No one is offering him 14 mil a year. Golden Tate is an overrated JAG. If you think hes worth 15 mil a year you're namesake is dead on. McCown was worth 10 million because he was the presumed starter? Okay. I’ll buy that. Now remind me again where you fell on the 12 million for names starter Fitzpatrick? Tate is not a jag. He’ll get at least 12-14 in free agency. He’s better and healthier than Enunwa and he got 20 guaranteed with up to 12 million a year. Please. The WR free agents are not great. He’s going to cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Bring in Osweiler Has a bunch of experience in Gase’s offense and should be comfortable with his role as a backup at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 You would have to think it won't be McCown who didn't look good in his three starts last season. No way the Jets will pay him 10 mil as backup/coach like they did last season. It's kind of an unknown but one guy who could be available is Keenum. It's an important decision since Qbs get regularly injured and sometimes out for the season. Sam missed three games his rookie year. And if a team like the Jets spends big money to become competitive and their starting Qb goes down you want someone who can run the offense competently. That's why NO traded for Teddy last year and the Bears had Chase Daniel etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 15 hours ago, Philc1 said: Holy God I want NOTHING to do with Fitz even as a backup the guy is cursed I think it’s been like 5 qbs in a row now he backed up all got seriously injured Oh and Fitz also sucks My dad and I have an ongoing joke about the Fitz curse. Follows him everywhere he goes. Scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 the only thing osweiler has going for him is he would be cheap and knows the offense, the guy is terrible. There is not much out there however unless some of these other vet qbs shake loose and get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 hours ago, joewilly12 said: I think I repeatedly called for that last season................. Yes because it made sense. The season was lost at that point...play the kid . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, JiF said: Wont pay Golden Tate 12 mil to the be the best WR on the team because he's an overrated JAG. Will pay 14 mil for a back up QB because familiarity. Will pay 7 mil for Eli Rodgers because well, no actual reasoning at all just because. #Paclogic 12 mil for Tate ? There's a reason Philly not looking to resign him. Over hyped IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: 12 mil for Tate ? There's a reason Philly not looking to resign him. Over hyped IMHO. He wont cost that. He's never made near that in his career. That was a # that Pacturd threw out and I used it against him to laugh at how much he thinks Tannehill will cost and how he'd be willing to spend stupid money on a back up vs. surround Sam with the best possible available talent. If you think a guy who is 1 year removed from having 5 straight years of 90+ receptions is over hyped than I think you should let go of the college bias that is showing right now. If he played for your tide, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Do you know for a fact Philly isnt looking to resign him? They thought highly enough to trade him for a 3rd round pick. That's a high pick for someone they dont think is good. And if I'm not mistaken, the only WR they have under contract dropped an easy pass to knock them out of the playoffs shortly after Tate caught the go ahead score. But laugh on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Tony MaC said: Sam's the guy going into 2019, but as of now he's the only QB on the roster. They need backup and there are few options out there. He might have been a good presence at Sam's side but it feels like McCown is done. Davis Webb is an option, but will Gase find him a good fit in his offense or alternative if (knock on wood) Sam get's hurt? My biggest bet is that Brock Osweiler winds up on the team. He's been under Gase's offensive system for three years out of his career and was with him in Miami last year. He'd bring a good amount of experience to the QB room and though he's proven he isn't a franchise QB I think he has a certain level of upside as a relief QB off the bench. It makes sense. There are other options like Tyrod Taylor and the usual list of castoffs, Cassel, Weeden, Josh Johnson, etc. Given that our QB is a 22 year old and the team has other needs it feels like drafting a QB isn't gonna happen, so what do you all think will happen at QB2? (or QB3?) Peyton. God. Damn. Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 If Osweiler comes cheap, sign him as the backup QB. If Webb can be a future trade asset or can develop into a viable backup, sign him as the 3rd QB. If Webb has no future, draft a late round developmental prospect: Tyree Jackson, Gardner Minshew. This should be the last resort as it would cost a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I don't really want a QB3. I mean, they need one or two extra for camp, but I'd just as soon carry two. If they carry a QB4 I am going to be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, JiF said: He wont cost that. He's never made near that in his career. That was a # that Pacturd threw out and I used it against him to laugh at how much he thinks Tannehill will cost and how he'd be willing to spend stupid money on a back up vs. surround Sam with the best possible available talent. If you think a guy who is 1 year removed from having 5 straight years of 90+ receptions is over hyped than I think you should let go of the college bias that is showing right now. If he played for your tide, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Do you know for a fact Philly isnt looking to resign him? They thought highly enough to trade him for a 3rd round pick. That's a high pick for someone they dont think is good. And if I'm not mistaken, the only WR they have under contract dropped an easy pass to knock them out of the playoffs shortly after Tate caught the go ahead score. But laugh on... You're so confused.. let me make it easy for you. Neither Tate nor Tanehill SHOULD make over 10 Mil next year. Some idiot team might give Tate 10 mill but it won't be us. Tannehill should slide into very good backup money which is 5 to 7 mil. What is so hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, Pac said: You're so confused.. let me make it easy for you. Neither Tate nor Tanehill SHOULD make over 10 Mil next year. Some idiot team might give Tate 10 mill but it won't be us. Tannehill should slide into very good backup money which is 5 to 7 mil. What is so hard to understand? Because you're wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, Pac said: You're so confused.. let me make it easy for you. Neither Tate nor Tanehill SHOULD make over 10 Mil next year. Some idiot team might give Tate 10 mill but it won't be us. Tannehill should slide into very good backup money which is 5 to 7 mil. What is so hard to understand? We just paid friggin mccown 10 million last year did we not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 hours ago, JiF said: He wont cost that. He's never made near that in his career. That was a # that Pacturd threw out and I used it against him to laugh at how much he thinks Tannehill will cost and how he'd be willing to spend stupid money on a back up vs. surround Sam with the best possible available talent. If you think a guy who is 1 year removed from having 5 straight years of 90+ receptions is over hyped than I think you should let go of the college bias that is showing right now. If he played for your tide, he'd be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Do you know for a fact Philly isnt looking to resign him? They thought highly enough to trade him for a 3rd round pick. That's a high pick for someone they dont think is good. And if I'm not mistaken, the only WR they have under contract dropped an easy pass to knock them out of the playoffs shortly after Tate caught the go ahead score. But laugh on... His college has nothing to do with it. He under performed with Philly. Outside of his 7-85-1 game against the Skins he never topped 48 yds in any game. He averaged 3.7 CPG with Philly vs 6.4 with Detroit. I can easily see Philly letting him walk . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: We just paid friggin mccown 10 million last year did we not. Quincy Enunwa in 4 years of the NFL has caught 118 passes, when healthy. He just signed for roughly 10 mil a year. Golden Tate during that time from has caught 347 passes but he's not worth 10 mil. #Paclogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: His college has nothing to do with it. He under performed with Philly. Outside of his 7-85-1 game against the Skins he never topped 48 yds in any game. He averaged 3.7 CPG with Philly vs 6.4 with Detroit. I can easily see Philly letting him walk . It was a new team, new offense, 2 new QB's, etc he joined them mid season. When he was with a QB familiar that knew him in Det. He had multiple games over 100 yards and over your 48. He had 44 receptions and 3 TD's in 7 games before being traded. Did he forget how to play when he got to Philly in the same year or maybe they used him different/he was learning a new system and getting used to a QB on the fly? Philly gave a 3rd round pick for him. They clearly valued his skill set. He'd be the best WR on the team instantly and give Sam a much needed consistent target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, JiF said: Quincy Enunwa in 4 years of the NFL has caught 118 passes, when healthy. He just signed for roughly 10 mil a year. Golden Tate during that time from has caught 347 passes but he's not worth 10 mil. #Paclogic Coincidentally enough, Quincy's contract will be pretty much what Tate gets when all is said and done. And it won't be from us. I mean you're just playing stupid, right? 26 year olds entering their prime get bigger contracts than 31 year old (when next season starts) overrated JAG's. Teams don't pay for past production. The only reason he'll get as much as he will is because it's a particularly weak FA class for WR's and he can point to his paper tiger stats when the Lions refused to establish the run and used him to supplement the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: We just paid friggin mccown 10 million last year did we not. Not explaining this again.. If you want to bet $50 that Tannehill won't get $14 mill a year I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 23 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said: Wish Josh McCowan would come back at a lower/manageable salary. I am tired of Josh. He showed last season that he is incapable of winning a game. He was not even close. I think a backup should be capable of winning a game. I think people who want him back are the same people who think many of our guys are worthy backups, guys like Elijah McGuire or Daryl Roberts or Charone Peake. Or basically any offensive lineman we have. If our front line talent was not any good, how could our backups be any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Pac said: Coincidentally enough, Quincy's contract will be pretty much what Tate gets when all is said and done. And it won't be from us. I mean you're just playing stupid, right? 26 year olds entering their prime get bigger contracts than 31 year old (when next season starts) overrated JAG's. Teams don't pay for past production. The only reason he'll get as much as he will is because it's a particularly weak FA class for WR's and he can point to his paper tiger stats when the Lions refused to establish the run and used him to supplement the run game. At this point the only reason I want to sign Tate is to watch you defend the signing once it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 bring back teddy.( actually think he might start somewhere. ) matt moore is someone who i always thought looked decent when the starter went down. i believe he was still with Miami when gase got there. wouldnt mind going cheap with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 In 2017 McCown had practiced and prepped for game days, and he was capable of winning in 2018 when Darnold was the starter, McCown was done when he had to come in. I would rather have Webb cheap than McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 hours ago, BroadwayBen said: My dad and I have an ongoing joke about the Fitz curse. Follows him everywhere he goes. Scary The jets would be better off with Christian friggin Hackenberg than Fitzgarbage and his curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Untouchable said: Bring in Osweiler Has a bunch of experience in Gase’s offense and should be comfortable with his role as a backup at this point. Osweiler on a 1 or 2 year deal at reasonable $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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