Robert Kraft Thread

[MichaelScott]

2 hours ago, Bugg said:

Happy byproduct; Francesa is taking a torch to his career this fine day defending Kraft like it' no big deal, he had NO IDEA these girls were being held against their will. Sounds like a clueless old man in a PC world. Would Ol'Mike want his daughter to work 

He didnt say anything thats going to screw him up with the fan. He said the two women Kraft were with were 40 and 50 something and they hugged him on the way out - The point being he wasn't with underage girls that are chained up. 

Mike is an absolutely a$$hole blow hard, but nothing he said was wrong. Kraft embarrassed the hell out of himself but LEGALLY, and as far as league punishment goes... The guy went to a freaking rub and tug, big deal. He isnt the ringleader or some intercontinental sex trafficking ring (unless proof comes out otherwise). He has PISS POOR taste in his sex for hire habits and he sucks at being a billionaire as far as that goes. Would have been better off hiring @SAR I as his escourt guide. 

[TuscanyTile2]

23 minutes ago, SAR I said:

“Kraft allegedly spent 11 minutes with a masseuse who greeted him with a hug, fondled him on a massage table “and then put her head down by” his crotch the morning of Jan. 20, the day his Patriots beat the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.”

”Kraft’s Jan. 20 visit to the massage parlor was allegedly his second in two days, and was preceded by a 25-minute three-way that included a rubdown by two women the day before, court papers say.”

“During the Jan. 19 incident, the women entered the room at 4:49 p.m. and began massaging Kraft, who was facedown until he turned over at 5:12 p.m., when the lights went out, court papers say.

The lights came back on at 5:14 p.m., and one woman “can be seen standing to his right side and her right hand is seen” fondling him for two minutes, court papers say.”

https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/

11 minutes.  Not bad.

SAR I

 

 

 

[choon328]

1 hour ago, ghost_in_pads02 said:

Ahh so if true. You are now the judge n jury on this man because he has the right to live his life and date a month after HIS WIFE PAST OF CANCER?

Emmm....I see.

 

 

I'm the judge and jury of knowing you're a tool and a troll. And I don't need a judge and jury to know that dating a 31 year old a month after your wife loses a long battle with cancer is a scum bag move. And then he carried on with the patch on the uniforms while he's viagra effing some whore model. And let's not pretend he wasn't banging this young chick and getting handy's from underage Chinese girls while his wife was actively dying. He's a scum bag and that perfectly fits that franchise that has cheated and broken the rules since he's becomes owner. Oh, and also employed a double murderer. It must just be a coincidence that Brady started banging Giselle while his ex gf was pregnant with his kid. The Apple doesn't fall far from the piece of sh*t tree. Now get lost troll

[choon328]

1 hour ago, HighPitch said:

A lot of you guys are plain nutty hypocrites.

the old man went for a tug. He didnt create human trafficking. Most likely never even thought about it.

i never thought about it until this happened.

now all the haters can come down on my ignorance but i call bs on the lot of you. You didnt think about it either before this happened.

and if you knew about it you sure didnt do a damned thing to help.

so there

He actually got a blow job on his first visit.

[Jets86]

Let's see.....Coach was caught videotaping opponents. QB busted for deflating footballs. Old creepy owner now caught up in some sex sting. Not too mention the fact they employed a murderer for a few years.

Enough is enough. The NFL needs to put a stop to these hooligans once and for all. Take all of their picks away for 2018. And force the owner to sell them to an outsider.

[14 in Green]

13 minutes ago, choon328 said:

I'm the judge and jury of knowing you're a tool and a troll. And I don't need a judge and jury to know that dating a 31 year old a month after your wife loses a long battle with cancer is a scum bag move. And then he carried on with the patch on the uniforms while he's viagra effing some whore model. And let's not pretend he wasn't banging this young chick and getting handy's from underage Chinese girls while his wife was actively dying. He's a scum bag and that perfectly fits that franchise that has cheated and broken the rules since he's becomes owner. Oh, and also employed a double murderer. It must just be a coincidence that Brady started banging Giselle while his ex gf was pregnant with his kid. The Apple doesn't fall far from the piece of sh*t tree. Now get lost troll

 I get that you're dealing with who you think is a troll, but wow, you hate the Patriots with a special kind of hate, don't you? 

 

[southtown24th]

more than once in a 24 hour period?!?!?!? Time to stop sweeping this under the rug.  This guy had a problem.  Legitimate problem.  Going to little massage parlors with random trafficked Asian women and getting blow jobs for $100.00.  Jee wiz.  That's a problem.

[southtown24th]

19 minutes ago, choon328 said:

He actually got a blow job on his first visit.

Blowjobs.  And yes, if you pay humans who are trafficked, you are supporting human trafficking...sorry.  This one ain't going away.

[southtown24th]

3 hours ago, choon328 said:

He started dating that chick about a month after his wife died. This dude is the biggest effing phony.

this dude is a piece of garbage.  runs deep in that org.

[southtown24th]

46 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

He didnt say anything thats going to screw him up with the fan. He said the two women Kraft were with were 40 and 50 something and they hugged him on the way out - The point being he wasn't with underage girls that are chained up. 

Mike is an absolutely a$$hole blow hard, but nothing he said was wrong. Kraft embarrassed the hell out of himself but LEGALLY, and as far as league punishment goes... The guy went to a freaking rub and tug, big deal. He isnt the ringleader or some intercontinental sex trafficking ring (unless proof comes out otherwise). He has PISS POOR taste in his sex for hire habits and he sucks at being a billionaire as far as that goes. Would have been better off hiring @SAR I as his escourt guide. 

Mike spent the entire day defending this guy because "they weren't underage women".  Does this guy not realize that prostitution is illegal?  Does this guy not realize that these people are SEX SLAVES? Mike ( and I am a big fan) is so beyond tone deaf with this sort of stuff, he sounds out of touch and he is...

I don't want to act like some holier than thou puritan here but, let's call a spade a spade: What Robert Kraft did was ILLEGAL and what he did CONTRIBUTES to illegal and devastating human trafficking and human slavery.

Period.

It's black and white.

[southtown24th]

8 hours ago, #90 said:

oh god

[The Crusher]

41 minutes ago, choon328 said:

I'm the judge and jury of knowing you're a tool and a troll. And I don't need a judge and jury to know that dating a 31 year old a month after your wife loses a long battle with cancer is a scum bag move. And then he carried on with the patch on the uniforms while he's viagra effing some whore model. And let's not pretend he wasn't banging this young chick and getting handy's from underage Chinese girls while his wife was actively dying. He's a scum bag and that perfectly fits that franchise that has cheated and broken the rules since he's becomes owner. Oh, and also employed a double murderer. It must just be a coincidence that Brady started banging Giselle while his ex gf was pregnant with his kid. The Apple doesn't fall far from the piece of sh*t tree. Now get lost troll

So we will put you down as a f*ck no for the  annual Jetnation Patfan mixer?

[choon328]

10 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

So we will put you down as a f*ck no for the  annual Jetnation Patfan mixer?

Yes lol. Leave the asterisk, they deserve it

[southtown24th]

3 hours ago, Bugg said:

Don't usually but someone clued me in he was being completely clueless to the point he doesn't grasp what he's messing with. Nobody goes into a grubby place like that without knowing these girls are not some kind of radical libertarians looking to earn their fortune. It borders on slavery.

he could not have sounded more out of touch and tone deaf today.

what a moron.

Can't wait to listen more and listen to him continue to crash and burn on this one.

[southtown24th]

I do think that there is something to:

Kraft--Dirtbag

Belichick--Dirtbag

Brady--Dirtbag

Hernandez--Dirtbag.

 

There is a trend here.

[The Crusher]

14 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Yes lol. Leave the asterisk, they deserve it

^^ well done 

[joewilly12]

[joewilly12]

[Dcat]

3 hours ago, ghost_in_pads02 said:

Ahh so if true. You are now the judge n jury on this man because he has the right to live his life and date a month after HIS WIFE PAST OF CANCER?

Emmm....I see.

 

 

Kraft had his dick out before Myra's body was even cold.

[14 in Green]

I get it. Kraft owns the Patriots. We hate the Patriots. Kraft gets charged with solicitation. People jump all over the story, because he owns the Patriots, and anything that makes him/them look bad makes us happy. However the naivete and hypocrisy here is driving me nuts.

I'm going to say the same thing I said in the other thread on this subject, but try harder not to offend so many people this time.

The police in Florida "busted" a few massage parlors in extremely affluent areas of Florida such as Jupiter and Hobe Sound. We are talking multi-millionaire to billionaire type affluence here. This kind of thing happens all the time, all over the country, just not as often in uber-money areas like this. The names are known and powerful, so this story has gained national coverage. 

The local Police Chief goes on tv, talks about the girls working there being, quote unquote "virtual sex slaves" they were forced to service hundreds of clients a year because of this sex "trafficking" ring. Yada Yada . Its my opinion, but a rookie cop two weeks on the job could've figured out what was going on there within a few  patrol shifts. It was a "rub and tug" parlor, duh. Somebody complained loud enough, action had to be taken.

Do any of you have experience in law enforcement, or know the way prosecutors charge in cases like this? Do you even understand how often the terms "drug trafficking" or "sex trafficking" are used in the indictments of low level cases? The term "trafficking" as it is used by DA offices should be an affront to those who fight against real, sordid, forms of "trafficking".

The authorities in Jupiter had their press conferences, humiliated a couple of local names such as Kraft, a local billionaire financier, and even the town Fire Commissioner. When all is said and done what will happen to these people? A small fine, maybe a few hours community service, if that. Nothing else.

Now for those who own, and work in the parlors. The girls? If they were the "virtual sex slaves" the police claim, why didn't the police immediately swoop in and rescue them instead of letting the investigation go on for months and months? Also, if these girls were "cooking some meals out back" as claimed, couldn't they simply walk off of their own free will onto the mean streets of Jupiter or Hobe Sound? Or were they simply prostitutes, happy to make a quick, steady buck in a affluent community? Just asking. The owners? They'll rightly be prosecuted, and because of the attention this has received, be treated harshly by the courts. Somebody has to be, right? I'm sure there will be tax evasion charges, obviously prostitution (or as it's called in these cases, sex trafficking) charges. They'll be convicted to much fanfare, and then guess what?

Those who want to go to places like this will find others like Orchid Rose or whatever the hell the place was called, the "virtual sex slaves" will coincidentally find more work in those places, nobody will care. Until somebody does, and  that person complains often enough about what everyone and their mother knows is going on. Then police have to act. I'm not even going to mention how the local police will be "shocked, shocked I tell you" by what was going on in the new location. 

[JetPotato]

2 hours ago, SAR I said:

“Kraft allegedly spent 11 minutes with a masseuse who greeted him with a hug, fondled him on a massage table “and then put her head down by” his crotch the morning of Jan. 20, the day his Patriots beat the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.”

”Kraft’s Jan. 20 visit to the massage parlor was allegedly his second in two days, and was preceded by a 25-minute three-way that included a rubdown by two women the day before, court papers say.”

“During the Jan. 19 incident, the women entered the room at 4:49 p.m. and began massaging Kraft, who was facedown until he turned over at 5:12 p.m., when the lights went out, court papers say.

The lights came back on at 5:14 p.m., and one woman “can be seen standing to his right side and her right hand is seen” fondling him for two minutes, court papers say.”

https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-paid-for-sex-hours-before-afc-championship-court-papers/

11 minutes.  Not bad.

SAR I

 

Did these girls have any headsets or other form of communication devices? I bet Ernie Adams is in their ear walking them through the plays stroke by stroke.

[greenwichjetfan]

9 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

I get it. Kraft owns the Patriots. We hate the Patriots. Kraft gets charged with solicitation. People jump all over the story, because he owns the Patriots, and anything that makes him/them look bad makes us happy. However the naivete and hypocrisy here is driving me nuts.

I'm going to say the same thing I said in the other thread on this subject, but try harder not to offend so many people this time.

The police in Florida "busted" a few massage parlors in extremely affluent areas of Florida such as Jupiter and Hobe Sound. We are talking multi-millionaire to billionaire type affluence here. This kind of thing happens all the time, all over the country, just not as often in uber-money areas like this. The names are known and powerful, so this story has gained national coverage. 

The local Police Chief goes on tv, talks about the girls working there being, quote unquote "virtual sex slaves" they were forced to service hundreds of clients a year because of this sex "trafficking" ring. Yada Yada . Its my opinion, but a rookie cop two weeks on the job could've figured out what was going on there within a few  patrol shifts. It was a "rub and tug" parlor, duh. Somebody complained loud enough, action had to be taken.

Do any of you have experience in law enforcement, or know the way prosecutors charge in cases like this? Do you even understand how often the terms "drug trafficking" or "sex trafficking" are used in the indictments of low level cases? The term "trafficking" as it is used by DA offices should be an affront to those who fight against real, sordid, forms of "trafficking".

The authorities in Jupiter had their press conferences, humiliated a couple of local names such as Kraft, a local billionaire financier, and even the town Fire Commissioner. When all is said and done what will happen to these people? A small fine, maybe a few hours community service, if that. Nothing else.

Now for those who own, and work in the parlors. The girls? If they were the "virtual sex slaves" the police claim, why didn't the police immediately swoop in and rescue them instead of letting the investigation go on for months and months? Also, if these girls were "cooking some meals out back" as claimed, couldn't they simply walk off of their own free will onto the mean streets of Jupiter or Hobe Sound? Or were they simply prostitutes, happy to make a quick, steady buck in a affluent community? Just asking. The owners? They'll rightly be prosecuted, and because of the attention this has received, be treated harshly by the courts. Somebody has to be, right? I'm sure there will be tax evasion charges, obviously prostitution (or as it's called in these cases, sex trafficking) charges. They'll be convicted to much fanfare, and then guess what?

Those who want to go to places like this will find others like Orchid Rose or whatever the hell the place was called, the "virtual sex slaves" will coincidentally find more work in those places, nobody will care. Until somebody does, and  that person complains often enough about what everyone and their mother knows is going on. Then police have to act. I'm not even going to mention how the local police will be "shocked, shocked I tell you" by what was going on in the new location. 

[TuscanyTile2]

6 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Meme question:

This is a very popular animated GIF but is this from a movie or something?  Is this some famous actor? (famous for something other than this animated gif, that is).

 

[14 in Green]

9 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Your reply made me laugh, it was pretty funny. 

Seriously though, unless this case turns out to be one that actually involves trafficking of, and holding these girls against their will, which I seriously doubt, what did I post that was untrue based on what we know so far?

 

[southtown24th]

29 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

I get it. Kraft owns the Patriots. We hate the Patriots. Kraft gets charged with solicitation. People jump all over the story, because he owns the Patriots, and anything that makes him/them look bad makes us happy. However the naivete and hypocrisy here is driving me nuts.

I'm going to say the same thing I said in the other thread on this subject, but try harder not to offend so many people this time.

The police in Florida "busted" a few massage parlors in extremely affluent areas of Florida such as Jupiter and Hobe Sound. We are talking multi-millionaire to billionaire type affluence here. This kind of thing happens all the time, all over the country, just not as often in uber-money areas like this. The names are known and powerful, so this story has gained national coverage. 

The local Police Chief goes on tv, talks about the girls working there being, quote unquote "virtual sex slaves" they were forced to service hundreds of clients a year because of this sex "trafficking" ring. Yada Yada . Its my opinion, but a rookie cop two weeks on the job could've figured out what was going on there within a few  patrol shifts. It was a "rub and tug" parlor, duh. Somebody complained loud enough, action had to be taken.

Do any of you have experience in law enforcement, or know the way prosecutors charge in cases like this? Do you even understand how often the terms "drug trafficking" or "sex trafficking" are used in the indictments of low level cases? The term "trafficking" as it is used by DA offices should be an affront to those who fight against real, sordid, forms of "trafficking".

The authorities in Jupiter had their press conferences, humiliated a couple of local names such as Kraft, a local billionaire financier, and even the town Fire Commissioner. When all is said and done what will happen to these people? A small fine, maybe a few hours community service, if that. Nothing else.

Now for those who own, and work in the parlors. The girls? If they were the "virtual sex slaves" the police claim, why didn't the police immediately swoop in and rescue them instead of letting the investigation go on for months and months? Also, if these girls were "cooking some meals out back" as claimed, couldn't they simply walk off of their own free will onto the mean streets of Jupiter or Hobe Sound? Or were they simply prostitutes, happy to make a quick, steady buck in a affluent community? Just asking. The owners? They'll rightly be prosecuted, and because of the attention this has received, be treated harshly by the courts. Somebody has to be, right? I'm sure there will be tax evasion charges, obviously prostitution (or as it's called in these cases, sex trafficking) charges. They'll be convicted to much fanfare, and then guess what?

Those who want to go to places like this will find others like Orchid Rose or whatever the hell the place was called, the "virtual sex slaves" will coincidentally find more work in those places, nobody will care. Until somebody does, and  that person complains often enough about what everyone and their mother knows is going on. Then police have to act. I'm not even going to mention how the local police will be "shocked, shocked I tell you" by what was going on in the new location. 

Ok Mr. Local Cop hanging out at the donut shop committing all sorts of crooked behind the scenes crimes and shady stuff...tell us, how do you KNOW these women were not TRAFFICKED and they are not SLAVES being held against their will?

You wrote an entire article here.  No where did you say where you read or saw that...

I will wait Robo Cop...let's have it.

[14 in Green]

1 minute ago, southtown24th said:

Ok Mr. Local Cop hanging out at the donut shop committing all sorts of crooked behind the scenes crimes and shady stuff...tell us, how do you KNOW these women were not TRAFFICKED and they are not SLAVES being held against their will?

You wrote an entire article here.  No where did you say where you read or saw that...

I will wait Robo Cop...let's have it.

No you're right.

Lets just go with the trafficked and slaves version, because its way too outlandish to imagine you'd ever find actual prostitutes working in a place like that. Otherwise, it would just be some town police busting a local massage parlor, and trumping up the charges at a press conference. And that kind of stuff never happens. Ever.

I'm sorry for upsetting you. Does this make you feel better now?

[greenwichjetfan]

13 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

Your reply made me laugh, it was pretty funny. 

Seriously though, unless this case turns out to be one that actually involves trafficking of, and holding these girls against their will, which I seriously doubt, what did I post that was untrue based on what we know so far?

 

I don’t think anything you posted was wrong. I simply can’t believe that after two threads have already been locked up, serious discourse is still trying to make its way into a third thread.

You have a right to feel however you want, but this forum clearly isn’t the place for it. That has been made drastically clear. If, as you noted, certain things about these threads is “driving you nuts”, you have the ability to avoid the thread. 

I very much hate the patriots and everything about them. A vast majority of their fans are inbred alcoholic racists with no value system that live in a city that is essentially a wannabe NYC with an inferiority complex deeply rooted into the fabric of their society. It brings me great joy to hate on that division rival’s team on this fan forum. So really, I’m just looking to not have yet another thread locked up.

[14 in Green]

25 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

I don’t think anything you posted was wrong. I simply can’t believe that after two threads have already been locked up, serious discourse is still trying to make its way into a third thread.

You have a right to feel however you want, but this forum clearly isn’t the place for it. That has been made drastically clear. If, as you noted, certain things about these threads is “driving you nuts”, you have the ability to avoid the thread. 

I very much hate the patriots and everything about them. A vast majority of their fans are inbred alcoholic racists with no value system that live in a city that is essentially a wannabe NYC with an inferiority complex deeply rooted into the fabric of their society. It brings me great joy to hate on that division rival’s team on this fan forum. So really, I’m just looking to not have yet another thread locked up.

You're making a lot of sense. I just got fed up with reading this stuff, and should've just gone onto another thread instead of venting as I did. I'm going to take your advice, and not comment further about those involved.. Thanks, for the reply.

[joenamathwouldn'tcry]

4 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

A vast majority of their fans are inbred alcoholic racists with no value system

I want you to try to put yourself outside of your physical body for a moment.  Now you are reading this as a person with no predisposed notion about the author of  this comment.  What would your judgement be about what kind of person wrote something like that?  This is the person who is concerned with the thread being locked?  Really?

[greenwichjetfan]

9 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I want you to try to put yourself outside of your physical body for a moment.  Now you are reading this as a person with no predisposed notion about the author of  this comment.  What would your judgement be about what kind of person wrote something like that?  This is the person who is concerned with the thread being locked?  Really?

The theme of that particular paragraph was “hating on everything patriots”, and it was designed to get this thread back on that path so that it wouldn’t get locked up. So yes, really.

[HelenOfTroy]

I don’t hate the Patriots, Tom Brady or their fans, the city of Boston, nor do I have anything more than casual interest in all the success they’ve had...but I think Kraft is a sick pig.  

Viejo cochino.

[14 in Green]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

 

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

Kraft had his dick out before Myra's body was even cold.

 

1 hour ago, JetPotato said:

Did these girls have any headsets or other form of communication devices? I bet Ernie Adams is in their ear walking them through the plays stroke by stroke.

 

19 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I want you to try to put yourself outside of your physical body for a moment.  Now you are reading this as a person with no predisposed notion about the author of  this comment.  What would your judgement be about what kind of person wrote something like that?  This is the person who is concerned with the thread being locked?  Really?

The 3 posts above yours were the ones preceding mine on this page. Are any of them any better? I don't think locking this thread would really be such a bad thing, actually. I think after 3 days enough is enough, don't you? 

[joenamathwouldn'tcry]

5 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

 

 

 

The 3 posts above yours were the ones preceding mine on this page. Are any of them any better? I don't think locking this thread really be such a bad thing. I think after 3 days enough is enough, don't you? 

No.  They were worse.  Much worse.  I didn't agree with your point but you were trying to take a pragmatic  approach to a very serious and sad situation.  While I disagreed with your read on the situation it is understandable and not mean spirited.  The desire to keep this thread for the sake of some sophomoric low brow "humor is regrettable, at best.  This thread had already run it's course a while ago.  So yes I do agree with you.

[southtown24th]

1 hour ago, 14 in Green said:

No you're right.

Lets just go with the trafficked and slaves version, because its way too outlandish to imagine you'd ever find actual prostitutes working in a place like that. Otherwise, it would just be some town police busting a local massage parlor, and trumping up the charges at a press conference. And that kind of stuff never happens. Ever.

I'm sorry for upsetting you. Does this make you feel better now?

Ok.  So all prostitutes are doing what they're doing by their own free will?  Are you that out of touch and tone deaf?  Wake up man.  Turn on the TV, read a book, grab a magazine, newspaper, podcast, literally ANYTHING these days can inform you to the fact that many prostitutes are being held against their will and are working for someone who is mentally, physically, psychologically, emotionally, etc. abusing them.  

I am not holier than thou and I enjoy a gentlemen's club as much as the next guy.  But, I am also not a ******* ignorant moron.  For you to say that you know for sure that these girls were NOT trafficked and were all "working" by their own FREE WILL is downright moronic.  You don't know.  So just stop.  

[jetstream23]

There's almost too much material here to be used on old Krafty.  The irony of Kraft being caught on surveillance and videotaped ala Spygate as he is Deflated by women from foreign countries where many of the Patriots Super Bowl Championship t-shirts (from the years they lost) likely ended up?  It's almost unbelievable.  Next thing you'll tell me is that Kraft kisses Tom Brady on the lips.

The entire Patriots hierarchy of Kraft -> Belichick -> Brady will soon all have some sort of sanction, penalty, suspension, or fine against it during their "rain" of "suck cess" over the past 18 years.  There's simply a culture of arrogance and cheating unlike anything we've seen since the baseball steroid era with Bonds and all those guys.  It really is amazing that all of these things have been happening in plain sight for years and yet the Patriots are put up on a mantel.  It's become an open secret just like the mafia.  Vincenzo would come home from his 4 hour shift at the laundromat with $6,000 and nobody thought anything of it.  What a crock of sh!t the entire Patriots "die nasty" looks like.