UnitedWhofans Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, JiF said: lmfao - it's almost like saving up a bunch of money for FA and hoping that good players will be available is a bad strategy to build a team. It isn't. You still need to add good players in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 18 hours ago, Philc1 said: The patriots just won a super bowl playing great defensively against an offensive powerhouse After they had someone shoot out Todd Gurley's knee cartilage with a military grade laser rifle from a grassy knoll near the Rams' practice facility. Oh...it's time for my meds. Be back in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 6:03 PM, neckdemon said: the ravens have 18 million in cap space. not hard to outbid them Imagine Bell facing the Steelers 2X/yr!! LOL! There would be a bounty on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lith said: Hold out, unless a long term deal is made.... IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: It isn't. You still need to add good players in FA. Whofans, welcome back, thanks for this extremely hot take. Teams, need to add good players in FA. Solid. Ground breaking really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Surprising that the Texans put the tag on Clowney because they are getting close to having to resign Mercilus, Hopkins and others. That's why I thought they might not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Surprising that the Texans put the tag on Clowney because they are getting close to having to resign Mercilus, Hopkins and others. That's why I thought they might not Hopkins > Clowney > Mercilus. Could be a tag and trade of Clowney.... MacDaddy has a relationship with Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, 32EBoozer said: Hopkins > Clowney > Mercilus. Could be a tag and trade of Clowney.... MacDaddy has a relationship with Houston. Yeah they are not going to able to keep them all, along with Watt's massive salary. So something has to give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Hold out, unless a long term deal is made.... IMO He's DEFINITELY holding out! Once Watson is paid that team is f*cked with Watson, Watt, Hopkins, Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yeah they are not going to able to keep them all, along with Watt's massive salary. So something has to give OMG let it be Hopkins, please! Seriously though...they have a ton of cap room right now so they can play some games. I guess when Watson's up for his turn at the $30MM/year starting QB contract they'll have to figure some stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hopkins already sign 2017 season. On August 31, 2017, the Houston Texans signed Hopkins to a five-year, $81 million contract extension with $49 million guaranteed and a signing bonus of $7.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 hours ago, joewilly12 said: With all the money the NY Jets have there is no way MM screws this up. thats classic irony, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, Losmeister said: thats classic irony, there. Many, many players were impressed by Darnold. He was getting a lot of love after games, NFL is a small fraternity, Macc has the money & has 3 aces in the hole with Darnold & Williams (a tough well respected defensive coach) and the money to lure a few free agents our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rolloffjet said: Hopkins already sign 2017 season. On August 31, 2017, the Houston Texans signed Hopkins to a five-year, $81 million contract extension with $49 million guaranteed and a signing bonus of $7.5 million. 1 hour ago, nycdan said: OMG let it be Hopkins, please! Seriously though...they have a ton of cap room right now so they can play some games. I guess when Watson's up for his turn at the $30MM/year starting QB contract they'll have to figure some stuff out. No wonder AB wants out of Pitt..... His contract is outdated as compared to what other young studs being paid! Wide Receiver Contracts QuarterbackRunning BackFullbackWide ReceiverTight EndOffensive LineLeft TackleLeft GuardCenterRight GuardRight TackleDefensive LineInterior Defensive Line3-4 Defensive Tackle4-3 Defensive Tackle3-4 Defensive End4-3 Defensive EndEdge Rusher3-4 Outside LinebackerLinebackerTraditional Linebacker4-3 Outside LinebackerInside LinebackerDefensive BackCornerbackSafetyKickerPunterLong Snapper Full Contract198519861987198819891990199119921993199419951996199719981999200020012002200320042005200620072008200920102011201220132014201520162017201820192020202120222023 Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Odell Beckham, Jr. Giants 27 $90,000,000 $18,000,000 $65,000,000 $40,959,000 2024 UFA Antonio Brown Steelers 31 $68,000,000 $17,000,000 $19,000,000 $19,000,000 2022 UFA Mike Evans Buccaneers 26 $82,500,000 $16,500,000 $55,008,000 $38,258,000 2024 UFA DeAndre Hopkins Texans 27 $81,000,000 $16,200,000 $49,000,000 $36,500,000 2023 UFA Brandin Cooks Rams 26 $81,000,000 $16,200,000 $50,459,000 $20,459,000 2024 UFA Sammy Watkins Chiefs 26 $48,000,000 $16,000,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 2021 UFA Jarvis Landry Browns 27 $75,500,000 $15,100,000 $47,000,000 $34,000,000 2023 UFA A.J. Green Bengals 31 $60,000,000 $15,000,000 $26,750,000 $26,750,000 2020 UFA Davante Adams Packers 27 $58,000,000 $14,500,000 $18,000,000 $18,000,000 2022 UFA Stefon Diggs Vikings 26 $72,000,000 $14,400,000 $40,007,000 $16,907,000 2024 UFA Julio Jones Falcons 30 $71,250,000 $14,250,000 $47,000,000 $35,500,000 2021 UFA Allen Robinson Bears 26 $42,000,000 $14,000,000 $25,200,000 $18,000,000 2021 UFA TY Hilton Colts 30 $65,000,000 $13,000,000 $39,000,000 $11,000,000 2021 UFA Alshon Jeffery Eagles 29 $52,000,000 $13,000,000 $27,000,000 $14,250,000 2022 UFA Doug Baldwin Seahawks 31 $46,000,000 $11,500,000 $24,250,000 $12,000,000 2021 UFA Keenan Allen Chargers 27 $45,000,000 $11,250,000 $24,156,000 $20,656,000 2021 UFA DeSean Jackson Buccaneers 33 $33,500,000 $11,166,667 $20,000,000 $20,000,000 2020 UFA Emmanuel Sanders Broncos 32 $33,000,000 $11,000,000 $26,900,000 $20,000,000 2020 UFA Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals 36 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 2020 UFA Tyler Lockett Seahawks 27 $31,800,000 $10,600,000 $20,000,000 $11,000,000 2022 UFA Randall Cobb Packers 29 $40,000,000 $10,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 2019 UFA Donte Moncrief Jaguars 26 $9,600,000 $9,600,000 $9,600,000 $9,600,000 2019 UFA Pierre Garcon 49ers 33 $47,500,000 $9,500,000 $20,000,000 $17,000,000 2022 UFA Quincy Enunwa Jets 27 $36,000,000 $9,000,000 $20,250,000 $9,171,412 2023 UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Surprising that the Texans put the tag on Clowney because they are getting close to having to resign Mercilus, Hopkins and others. That's why I thought they might not Hopkins was already resigned he's under contract till '23. Mercilus doesnt break the bank. They have 80 mil in cap space. They can easily afford this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: No wonder AB wants out of Pitt..... His contract is outdated as compared to what other young studs being paid! How did you get there from the fact that he's the 2nd-highest paid WR in the league? The guaranteed number is much lower but he's in year 3 and nobody has much guaranteed money left by year 3 of a 5-year deal. This is not about comp. This is about the Steelers having the temerity to allow other players to catch passes and score TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, nycdan said: How did you get there from the fact that he's the 2nd-highest paid WR in the league? The guaranteed number is much lower but he's in year 3 and nobody has much guaranteed money left by year 3 of a 5-year deal. This is not about comp. This is about the Steelers having the temerity to allow other players to catch passes and score TDs. What I was alluding to is that it's a lot easier getting another big contract at 31 rather than the 34 he will be in 2022. This is the reason he started "acting up" in the hopes of getting released or traded to a team looking to negotiate a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: What I was alluding to is that it's a lot easier getting another big contract at 31 rather than the 34 he will be in 2022. This is the reason he started "acting up" in the hopes of getting released or traded to a team looking to negotiate a new deal. Sorry. Didn't get that the first time. Valid point. If the world made any sense, players would have to refund the pro-rated portion of their signing bonuses when they pull this crap. The team shouldn't have to be punished with dead cap money whenever a player decides he's not feeling 'the love' anymore from the contract he happily signed 2 years ago. AB could have signed a 3-year deal back in 2017 but he wanted the bigger signing bonus a 5-year deal afforded him (even though it was unusually low by current standards). I wouldn't shed a tear for him if he spends next season eating pizza on Sundays watching the JJ Schuster-Smith rack up 15 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, nycdan said: Sorry. Didn't get that the first time. Valid point. If the world made any sense, players would have to refund the pro-rated portion of their signing bonuses when they pull this crap. The team shouldn't have to be punished with dead cap money whenever a player decides he's not feeling 'the love' anymore from the contract he happily signed 2 years ago. Yeah let's consider the real victims in instances like this, the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, nycdan said: Sorry. Didn't get that the first time. Valid point. If the world made any sense, players would have to refund the pro-rated portion of their signing bonuses when they pull this crap. The team shouldn't have to be punished with dead cap money whenever a player decides he's not feeling 'the love' anymore from the contract he happily signed 2 years ago. AB could have signed a 3-year deal back in 2017 but he wanted the bigger signing bonus a 5-year deal afforded him (even though it was unusually low by current standards). I wouldn't shed a tear for him if he spends next season eating pizza on Sundays watching the JJ Schuster-Smith rack up 15 TDs. Hoping Deontay Burnett follows the same career path as Shuster-Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Yeah let's consider the real victims in instances like this, the owners. I'm talking about the impact on the salary cap that hampers a team when a player pulls this. This in turn affects the fans. I don't care about the owners' money any more or less than I care about the players' and I don't think that was at all unclear. Don't go all Norma Rae here please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: I'm talking about the impact on the salary cap that hampers a team when a player pulls this. This in turn affects the fans. I don't care about the owners' money any more or less than I care about the players' and I don't think that was at all unclear. Don't go all Norma Rae here please. I'm so affected right now. Raging affection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patriot Killa Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: I’d drive Darron Lee to the airport myself if we could pair Mosley with Williamson Lol exactly were my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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section314 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d drive Darron Lee to the airport myself if we could pair Mosley with Williamson I bet Jamaal Adams would offer to do that for you, too.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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