Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Welcome to nfl free agency Buster Skrine just got $16 million from the bears Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: “Much”? No, he’s not. They’re about the same. One is just younger. And we just handed him high end WR2 money. Much. Yes. And that’s the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Much. Yes. And that’s the market. Prove he’s much better. The market? What slot receivers are getting paid more than Crowder? I’m very happy with the Barr and Osemele moves, as well as the aggressive attempt to get Paradis. But this one’s a head scratcher to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Prove he’s much better. The market? What slot receivers are getting paid more than Crowder? I’m very happy with the Barr and Osemele moves, as well as the aggressive attempt to get Paradis. But this ones a head scratcher to me. Dude, they’re not even remotely comparable. Lol. you’re cray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Dude, they’re not even remotely comparable. Lol. you’re cray I just showed you they are. Beasley was better last year than any season Crowder has put up the past 4 seasons. And Beasley was pretty awesome in 2016 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I just showed you they are. Beasley was better last year than any season Crowder has put up the past 4 seasons. You showed me nothing. Lol Cole Beasley. Hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 You showed me nothing. Lol Cole Beasley. Hahahahaha Beasley was # 5 in DVOA in 2016 and # 34 last season. Crowder has never been higher than # 44. And last year PFF had Crowder as the # 91 receiver.I get you like the guy for some reason but sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Beasley was # 5 in DVOA in 2016 and # 34 last season. Crowder has never been higher than # 44. And last year PFF had Crowder as the # 91 receiver. I get you like the guy for some reason but sheesh. This was a good signing for the 2 / 17 value and especially considering that there were no higher end options out there. Crowder is young and talented and plays a position (slot) that will really, really help Darnold (aka priority number one two and three) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Crowder’s consistency or lack thereof was more a result of how the redskins offense was designed and how Cousins functioned in it Still back to back 800 yard seasons is pretty good especially when your usually the 2nd or 3rd progression of a not great qb Well if 9 million is the going rate for below average seasons then I guess that’s what it is. That said, Macc overpaid because he can’t draft WRs to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 so what's the consensus here: good or bad signing? I say Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 This was a good signing for the 2 / 17 value and especially considering that there were no higher end options out there. Crowder is young and talented and plays a position (slot) that will really, really help Darnold (aka priority number one two and three) A competent GM could find his own Jamison Crowder in the 3rd/4th round. Not pay one high end WR2 money. It’s really not that difficult of a skill set to find. Crowder himself was a 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: so what's the consensus here: good or bad signing? I say Good. Crowder's issue is his health. If he is over his ankle issues then I think we got ourselves a really good player. It's a typical Macc move on a guy with high upside that he locks in for 3/28 but only 17 is guaranteed so it's just a 2 year deal. This is from 2 years ago before the injuries. Dude is explosive, get's great separation and can do it from the outside or inside. This is Crowder from this past year playing a little banged up with the likes Alex "check down" Smith and Josh Johnson. Still looks pretty explosive: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, NYJets8 said: For his career, Crowder is averaging 11.9 yards per reception on a 67.2% catch rate. The only other wide receivers (minimum 300 targets) since 2015 to average those numbers are Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen, Doug Baldwin, and Adam Thielen.#Jets Here you go...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I just showed you they are. Beasley was better last year than any season Crowder has put up the past 4 seasons. And Beasley was pretty awesome in 2016 too. Beasley is going to be 30 and he has had foot/ankle problems the last couple years. I know Crowder has had some as well, but he is way younger. Beasley had Romo throwing to him most of his career which is way better than Kirk Cousins. Beasley has less of a chance to score than Crowder just based on athleticism. Beasley doesn't have the explosiveness of Crowder. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Well if 9 million is the going rate for below average seasons then I guess that’s what it is. That said, Macc overpaid because he can’t draft WRs to save his life. When you draft as horribly as Macc you gotta splurge in free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: A competent GM could find his own Jamison Crowder in the 3rd/4th round. Not pay one high end WR2 money. It’s really not that difficult of a skill set to find. Crowder himself was a 4th round pick. We don’t have a competent GM Macc’s evaluation of WRs in the draft is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 hours ago, southtown24th said: so what's the consensus here: good or bad signing? I say Good. I think it’s a good signing. Crowder is the same thing as Humphries or Beasley maybe a little more upside Jets still need another wr tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Crowder's issue is his health. If he is over his ankle issues then I think we got ourselves a really good player. It's a typical Macc move on a guy with high upside that he locks in for 3/28 but only 17 is guaranteed so it's just a 2 year deal. This is from 2 years ago before the injuries. Dude is explosive, get's great separation and can do it from the outside or inside. This is Crowder from this past year playing a little banged up with the likes Alex "check down" Smith and Josh Johnson. Still looks pretty explosive: This is why I’m not a fan of the Bellamy signing. Assuming we sign Andre Roberts for returns, we tie up 2 WR slots for old special team aces. Our other 4 slots are Anderson, Enunwa, Crowder and Burnett. 2 of those (Enunwa and Crowder) are injury prone. We don’t have the space or luxury for a second special team ace. That is assuming Roberts comes back. I guess we’ll just see how things play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Philc1 said: We don’t have a competent GM Macc’s evaluation of WRs in the draft is laughable Sam Darnold will make those WR's better than what they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Jesus. No religion please! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Beasley was # 5 in DVOA in 2016 and # 34 last season. Crowder has never been higher than # 44. And last year PFF had Crowder as the # 91 receiver. I get you like the guy for some reason but sheesh. So Cole Beasley was the 5th best WR in Football in 2016? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Well if 9 million is the going rate for below average seasons then I guess that’s what it is. That said, Macc overpaid because he can’t draft WRs to save his life. You don't pay free agents based on past performance. If that were the case, Frank Gore's one year deal with the Bills would be worth 30 million. You pay free agents based on potential. We will know if this is a good deal if he looks like a bargain three years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, JiF said: So Cole Beasley was the 5th best WR in Football in 2016? Lol It means he's better than Jamison Crowder. He's just older, so somehow Crowder gets paid on "potential". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, DJF71 said: Beasley is going to be 30 and he has had foot/ankle problems the last couple years. I know Crowder has had some as well, but he is way younger. Beasley had Romo throwing to him most of his career which is way better than Kirk Cousins. Beasley has less of a chance to score than Crowder just based on athleticism. Beasley doesn't have the explosiveness of Crowder. Not even close. Beasley did just fine with Dak Prescott, too. Better than Crowder did with Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I'm not even really saying we should have signed Beasley. I'm saying we would have been better off signing neither and addressing the slot WR spot in the draft. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: It means he's better than Jamison Crowder. He's just older, so somehow Crowder gets paid on "potential". Not just better than Crowder, he was #5, he’s basically elite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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