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2 hours ago, SR24 said:

Anybody hear anything about what he's asking for?! seems so weird I haven't heard a single thing about him making a visit or any teams even being interested. Guys the best F/A available and he's been a ghost. I'm assuming he's asking for an astronomical amount of money

Right now our out starting WSOLBs would be Basham and Luvu as the pass rusher. We have to add a FA and the draft one with our #3 overall pick(which should be Bosa or Allen assume a QB Murray or Haskins goes in one of the top 2 spots (likely)). They could also bring Copeland back though even though not a sexy move he did man the position fairly well and got 5 sacks. I have no problem with Copeland coming back and then drafting Bosa or Allen, then hopefully Luvu also keep progressing since he got 3.5 sacks while only playing <20% of the snaps.

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3 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

For a short term deal with an out, I see no reason not too. We have so much cap and glaring holes. Give him $13-15mil per for 3 years with an out after 2. We need talent at all costs and don’t have to worry about the cap for s few years. 

This gives us draft flexibility in case we are lucky enough to have a trade down option. We aren’t stuck reaching because we have zero pass rush. Houston alone would help greatly compared to the trash that we had last year. It wouldn’t be a “good deal” but would fill a major need and be better than rolling over a sh*t ton of money again. 

We still have about $40 mil I read. It's pretty crazy that with all we've done, we still have that much left. I agree with grabbing someone like Houston. But who knows? Maybe he told the Jets he was feeling queasy at the thought of coming here. 

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33 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

We still have about $40 mil I read. It's pretty crazy that with all we've done, we still have that much left. I agree with grabbing someone like Houston. But who knows? Maybe he told the Jets he was feeling queasy at the thought of coming here. 

I think he said that coming to the Jets would be like dating his mom.

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38 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

We still have about $40 mil I read. It's pretty crazy that with all we've done, we still have that much left. I agree with grabbing someone like Houston. But who knows? Maybe he told the Jets he was feeling queasy at the thought of coming here. 

All we’ve done? We signed a ILB and a RB. The rest have been peanuts. We need another 1-2 splash contracts. 

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We need one more big signing or a big trade for a WR. I feel Huston is more realistic. 4 year deal with an out after 2. Good job by Mac so far but needs to stay aggressive. Go get this guy and it softens the blow from Barr

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4 hours ago, CanadaSteve said:

More recent:

Robert Mathis

Dwight Freeney

John Abraham

Julius Peppers

James Harrison

Many older ones as well

Cameron Wake

They keep themselves in great shape. Over the years their experience allows them to read the protection schemes and anticipate the plays. They put a lot of time into this in the offseason. Eventually...they evolve into excellent technicians. 

With them...It becomes an art form. IMO Houston is going to join them, and be effective 3-5 more years.

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16 minutes ago, jack48 said:

he has to bring in some decent depth

For a lot of positions. 

This team can be competitive with every team on their schedule.  But the grind of a 16 game campaign will take its toll.  The OL-CB-WR-TE-Etc. positions can't afford serious injuries to starters.

Oh...forgot to mention QB.  

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1 hour ago, Paradis said:

All we’ve done? We signed a ILB and a RB. The rest have been peanuts. We need another 1-2 splash contracts. 

lol. Fair enough. 

We did do quite a bit though. The top RB, and overall player in FA, The top LB, A Mauler LG, One of the top Slot WR's, a nickel back to replace Skrine, resigned Anderson, Harrison,  Mclendon and couple other guys. Kicker, ST gunner and bought ice cream and cotton candy for all of them. Its not cheap man.  

And the fact that we did better with some of the contracts, especially Bell, doesn't negate the quantity or quality of the group. 

I agree that a couple more of the better/bigger named guys would be a positive, but thats not the worst haul. I was really disappointed that we didn't get Morse or your name sake, but if you look at the injury histories of both it can be seen from a different point of view. It doesn't seem like the Jets were really as enamored as we all were with those two.  

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14 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

lol. Fair enough. 

We did do quite a bit though. The top RB, and overall player in FA, The top LB, A Mauler LG, One of the top Slot WR's, a nickel back to replace Skrine, resigned Anderson, Harrison,  Mclendon and couple other guys. Kicker, ST gunner and bought ice cream and cotton candy for all of them. Its not cheap man.  

And the fact that we did better with some of the contracts, especially Bell, doesn't negate the quantity or quality of the group. 

I agree that a couple more of the better/bigger named guys would be a positive, but thats not the worst haul. I was really disappointed that we didn't get Morse or your name sake, but if you look at the injury histories of both it can be seen from a different point of view. It doesn't seem like the Jets were really as enamored as we all were with those two.  

I guess what i'm saying is -- most of that is what teams with $20-30 million in cap room do.... Resigning a couple vets and some role players like Crowder.. it's as rudimentary as it gets.

The only significant thing we've done with that $100 million is sign an ILB and a RB -- the two easiest positions to draft -- to mega contracts... It what it is, but i expect a lot more mileage out of that hundred.... KO was a nice start, but we're gonna need at least 1-2 more significant moves. 

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24 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I guess what i'm saying is -- most of that is what teams with $20-30 million in cap room do.... Resigning a couple vets and some role players like Crowder.. it's as rudimentary as it gets.

The only significant thing we've done with that $100 million is sign an ILB and a RB -- the two easiest positions to draft -- to mega contracts... It what it is, but i expect a lot more mileage out of that hundred.... KO was a nice start, but we're gonna need at least 1-2 more significant moves. 

While FA is always a bit of a disappointment, especially for teams that have a lot of gaps, the quality of their top two signings were for elite, if not "best at position" players. As a number of coaches and analysts have pointed out, Bell will be a terror for defenses given his skill set. You don't just draft guys like that casually. Mosley is also an important addition -- the Jets need a QB on defense and improvement to the LB core. It was their weakest unit on defense. 

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I guess what i'm saying is -- most of that is what teams with $20-30 million in cap room do.... Resigning a couple vets and some role players like Crowder.. it's as rudimentary as it gets.
The only significant thing we've done with that $100 million is sign an ILB and a RB -- the two easiest positions to draft -- to mega contracts... It what it is, but i expect a lot more mileage out of that hundred.... KO was a nice start, but we're gonna need at least 1-2 more significant moves. 

Gotcha. I have it a little better than that In my mind but your point is valid. Who do you have on your radar?

At this point the pickings are obviously slimmer. I really do think the Barf thing screwed up our plans in the edge rusher dept. obviously they thought that was top 3 in level of importance. He was the first one we agreed to. Him waiting a whole day to change his mind took away 24 hours during the feeding frenzy of legal tampering. I’d be willing to bet they had a few guys as plans B and C if he didn’t work out.

Who would you see coming in at this point ?


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2 hours ago, Paradis said:

All we’ve done? We signed a ILB and a RB. The rest have been peanuts. We need another 1-2 splash contracts. 

I think osemele is being overlooked a bit, saffold was the best G available and he signed for 4/44 despite being 2 years older. osemele has 2/20 with no guaranteed $ left so he could probably be extended and restructured to move cap money around. that said, if the jets could pull off signing houston and then go draft bosa or allen this defense will be absolutely nasty

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7 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Agree, but we have the 3rd overall pick in a draft loaded with edge talent 

You want as many important pieces as possible on rookie deals. 

Agreed which is why I’d spend the money on Houston and add Bosa or Allen then we’re set T edge for years 

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8 hours ago, cant wait said:

I think osemele is being overlooked a bit, saffold was the best G available and he signed for 4/44 despite being 2 years older. osemele has 2/20 with no guaranteed $ left so he could probably be extended and restructured to move cap money around. that said, if the jets could pull off signing houston and then go draft bosa or allen this defense will be absolutely nasty

I think will get a little Greedy come 1st round and go CB.  Just a gut feeling.

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15 hours ago, Skeptable said:

Ray or Ansah at around 10 Mil would be great but I bet they are looking in the 13+ Mil range. Plus there is all that talk around Ansah and how he takes a lot of plays off...

Ray is not even an adequate player and always hurt.

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Any idea why not hearing anymore Mac interest in this guy-?

Are we not serious about spending some available cash on the best available sack specialist in FA

Signing Houston FA now gives us a lot more options in the draft-  We could Pick Bosa/Allen have best bookend DEs football or

gives us the flexibility to trade down for more OL picks . Not getting why we havent heard more especially with Barr shunning the team.

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16 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Again it just seems no team is showing interest in him

He’s probably looking for 15 million a year for 3 years.

Teams look at his age and the fact he won’t have dee ford on the other side commanding more blocking attention and know he’s really worth half that $ on a short term deal.

He’ll come down to earth when he sees the market. He’d be a very good signing at the right price and term limit.

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