Scott Dierking Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 So far, from a short view, I am impressed with Rojas. The biggest thing I like is that he does not give star treatment. He has not been afraid to sit a struggling Rosario. His biggest star in the lineup, Alonso, he has not been afraid to drop him to the 6 hole. Nido and Ramos have split the last 6 games, as Ramos appears indifferent to playing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: So far, from a short view, I am impressed with Rojas. The biggest thing I like is that he does not give star treatment. He has not been afraid to sit a struggling Rosario. His biggest star in the lineup, Alonso, he has not been afraid to drop him to the 6 hole. Nido and Ramos have split the last 6 games, as Ramos appears indifferent to playing. Good post. Agree with you. I also like his mentality to just focus on winning today's game. Period. Also, to be fair, awfully tough to really evaluate any manager in this crazy season, especially a rookie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Why are you guys trying Diaz at closer again? You should be sticking with Lugo at closer and Diaz in the 8th where he was pitching better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 8:22 AM, JiF said: I just heard a fun stat: if the Mets scored just 4 runs in each of Jacob DeGroms last 64 started he would be 55-9. Jake just had his 16th scoreless outing without a win. 16!!!!!!! It's actually challenging to wrap my brain around that even though every Mets fan shouldnt be surprised. He's going to end up with some of the craziest stats like this the league has ever seen. Unreal. That said, legit, I dont care what anyone says, Jake is in the all time great conversation. He's un****ing believable. When you start to add up these types of stats that are out there about him, back to back CY Youngs, dude is an all time great. Bottom line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Why are you guys trying Diaz at closer again? You should be sticking with Lugo at closer and Diaz in the 8th where he was pitching better Because the starting pitching has been decimated. -Syndergaard out for year -Stroman opted out -Wacha injured -Peterson injured -Matz ineffective The good news is other relievers in the pen have stepped up to help fill the void Lugo will create. Whether Diaz can now be effective in the 9th is another story. Mets probably looking at Lugo to see if he can be a starter next year too. It is what he wants to do and the Mets need starting pitching for next year. Mets are not going anywhere this year, so might as well try stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2020 strikes again. Finally put together 3 straight wins. Chance to finish off the sweep tonight, then a weekend series with the Yankees. And we get a couple of Covid positives. Games tonight and tomorrow postponed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If the MLB decided tomorrow to contract the Mets I'm not even sure I'd be sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 No baseball this weekend because your dumbass batting coach couldn’t avoid getting infected with the hoax. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: No baseball this weekend because your dumbass batting coach couldn’t avoid getting infected with the hoax. Thanks guys. Where did you get your info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Well, all things considered, if they go by win %, missing a series with the Yankees is probably a good thing. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: No baseball this weekend because your dumbass batting coach couldn’t avoid getting infected with the hoax. Thanks guys. Mets hitting coach is Chili Davis, who has not been around the team this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: No baseball this weekend because your dumbass batting coach couldn’t avoid getting infected with the hoax. Thanks guys. I'm glad you could deign from your Yankees' throne to speak with us common folk in the Mets thread. I feel honored by your presence. On behalf of the organization, my deepest apologies to the Yankees and indeed the world for disrupting this totally legitimate season's title run by the great Yankee franchise. All things revolve around the Yankees, after all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'm glad you could deign from your Yankees' throne to speak with us common folk in the Mets thread. I feel honored by your presence. On behalf of the organization, my deepest apologies to the Yankees and indeed the world for disrupting this totally legitimate season's title run by the great Yankee franchise. All things revolve around the Yankees, after all. I wanted my three cupcake games against the Mets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: I wanted my three cupcake games against the Mets Pretty ordinary recent results against a supposed cupcake: 2018 06/08/18 L New York Yankees 4, Mets 1 deGrom (L, 4-1) . 06/09/18 L New York Yankees 4, Mets 3 Swarzak (L, 0-1) . 06/10/18 W Mets 2, New York Yankees 0 Lugo (W, 2-1) . 07/20/18 W Mets 7, New York Yankees 5 Syndergaard (W, 6-1) . 07/21/18 L New York Yankees 7, Mets 6 Matz (L, 4-8) . 08/13/18 W Mets 8, New York Yankees 5 deGrom (W, 7-7) . Totals for 2018: 3 wins, 3 losses 2019 06/11/19 L New York Yankees 12, Mets 5 Wheeler (L, 5-4) . 06/11/19 W Mets 10, New York Yankees 4 Vargas (W, 3-3) . 07/02/19 W Mets 4, New York Yankees 2 Lugo (W, 4-2) . 07/03/19 L New York Yankees 5, Mets 1 Vargas (L, 3-4) . Totals for 2019: 2 wins, 2 losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 OH THE METS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: OH THE METS wow those cutouts in the stands look pretty realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 No baseball until Tuesday . This blows chunks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: No baseball until Tuesday . This blows chunks . They got off easy, all things considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: They got off easy, all things considered. You see Dom Smith is tied for 3rd in NL with 21 RBI? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 9:56 AM, section314 said: You see Dom Smith is tied for 3rd in NL with 21 RBI? That DH has been crucial. What happens if they didnt have the DH the way Alonso is lost at the plate right now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Why isn't deGrom pitching today ? He can go 7 innings . And , now , he misses the Yankee series . Way to go Luis . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 13 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Why isn't deGrom pitching today ? He can go 7 innings . And , now , he misses the Yankee series . Way to go Luis . deGrom threw his pen on Monday. Your pen session is scheduled 2 days before your scheduled start. deGrom had not thrown since his start last week. The real Metsy thing to do would have been to throw deGrom off regular schedule and have an arm injury as a result. This season is catastrophic enough. Ruining deGrom for a start in a meaningless game against the Yankees would have been off the charts catastrophic. The Mets actually did the right thing. Let that sink in. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 games, same day, 0 runs! If aint one thing its' mother****ing nother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Will be interesting to see what they do with the trade deadline a few days away. I could see teams asking about Lugo, Gesellman and even Cano, if Mets will eat decent part of remaining contract. Wonder how the pending ownership change may impact the team making moves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: deGrom threw his pen on Monday. Your pen session is scheduled 2 days before your scheduled start. deGrom had not thrown since his start last week. The real Metsy thing to do would have been to throw deGrom off regular schedule and have an arm injury as a result. This season is catastrophic enough. Ruining deGrom for a start in a meaningless game against the Yankees would have been off the charts catastrophic. The Mets actually did the right thing. Let that sink in. Stop babying the players . Lugo could and should have gone more than 3 innings last night . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Stop babying the players . Lugo could and should have gone more than 3 innings last night . The arm is a very temperamental thing. It is used to routine, cadence and balance. When was the last time that Lugo went inning, rest, inning, rest, inning rest, inning (meaning pitching into the 4th inning)? It was July of 2018. Read the book "The Arm" by Jeff Passan if you want perspective on how pitcher's arms are temperamental. Lugo already has a balky elbow. No reason to push him into something that he hasn't done in over 2 years and risk injury. The Mets erred on the side of caution, and I am fine with that. This season is lost. they are done. It is also a sham of a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: The arm is a very temperamental thing. It is used to routine, cadence and balance. When was the last time that Lugo went inning, rest, inning, rest, inning rest, inning (meaning pitching into the 4th inning)? It was July of 2018. Read the book "The Arm" by Jeff Passan if you want perspective on how pitcher's arms are temperamental. Lugo already has a balky elbow. No reason to push him into something that he hasn't done in over 2 years and risk injury. The Mets erred on the side of caution, and I am fine with that. This season is lost. they are done. It is also a sham of a season. Jeff Passan went to Syracuse as a journalism major . What does he know about arms ? All major leager's are babied now . The WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Jeff Passan went to Syracuse as a journalism major . What does he know about arms ? All major leager's are babied now . The WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . If you read the book, what he did was research. Researched arm injuries and made causal effect summations. Much of what he stated in that book has been adopted by many MLB clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: If you read the book, what he did was research. Researched arm injuries and made causal effect summations. Much of what he stated in that book has been adopted by many MLB clubs. WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . I will tell you one thing, I learned a lot from this new modeling of pitchers workload. Unfortunately, it was too late. My son did not have a heavy workload as sophomore in high school. Lo and behold, he became the ace in his junior year and was relied upon heavily, using up his 100 pitches in each outing. His workload increased by 5-fold including those innings and the innings we pitched him in travel ball to get him to his commitment. SAure enough, his arm came up lame the next year. And he is just getting back to normal (2 years later). You call it wussification, I call it smart management. In the mlb, where pitchers have salaries in the 100's of millions, you had better treat those arms with care. Or, you will suffer the consequences. Just check out what Dusty Baker did to some arms before these concepts came to light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: I will tell you one thing, I learned a lot from this new modeling of pitchers workload. Unfortunately, it was too late. My son did not have a heavy workload as sophomore in high school. Lo and behold, he became the ace in his junior year and was relied upon heavily, using up his 100 pitches in each outing. His workload increased by 5-fold including those innings and the innings we pitched him in travel ball to get him to his commitment. SAure enough, his arm came up lame the next year. And he is just getting back to normal (2 years later). You call it wussification, I call it smart management. In the mlb, where pitchers have salaries in the 100's of millions, you had better treat those arms with care. Or, you will suffer the consequences. Just check out what Dusty Baker did to some arms before these concepts came to light. WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: I will tell you one thing, I learned a lot from this new modeling of pitchers workload. Unfortunately, it was too late. My son did not have a heavy workload as sophomore in high school. Lo and behold, he became the ace in his junior year and was relied upon heavily, using up his 100 pitches in each outing. His workload increased by 5-fold including those innings and the innings we pitched him in travel ball to get him to his commitment. SAure enough, his arm came up lame the next year. And he is just getting back to normal (2 years later). You call it wussification, I call it smart management. In the mlb, where pitchers have salaries in the 100's of millions, you had better treat those arms with care. Or, you will suffer the consequences. Just check out what Dusty Baker did to some arms before these concepts came to light. Mark Prior, for one. Guy was basically untouchable for two years. Then he couldn't get guys out in a slow pitch softball league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: WOOSIFICATION OF MLB . Might be time for you to watch another sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, section314 said: Mark Prior, for one. Guy was basically untouchable for two years. Then he couldn't get guys out in a slow pitch softball league. And Kerry Wood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: And Kerry Wood I hope your son will be able to get back to his normal velocity, and enjoy playing again. This always reminds me of what a great pitching coach Rube Walker was for the Mets. Seaver, Koosman, Ryan and Tug all pitched into their 40's, and were still effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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