Copernicus Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Was listening to "Jet Up" podcast and there was a small segment about practice squad player center Jon Toth. The presenter brought up many points as to how Toth might make sense for the Jets. From his potential, current ability level, familiarity with the Jets, young age, and inexpensive value, it may be the reason why the Jets did not sign Paradis or Morse during free agency. The podcast also mentioned that Toth could be a better option than drafting a center. I couldn't find much about Toth. If anyone has information about this possible answer to our center position please post. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Jon Toth # C New York Jets | Official Team Site Height: 6-5 Weight: 310 Age: 25 Born: 2/11/1994 College: Kentucky Experience: 1st season High School: Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory School [Indianapolis, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dbatesman Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Love when the Jets solve a thorny personnel issue by simply elevating a guy off the practice squad. Definitely a thing that’s possible on this plane of existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I can't load anything from this $hitty old iPad ... But google has feel good story of him overcoming disc/back surgery to be fighting to achieve his lifelong dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Wasn’t this guy a really good prospect? What’s his injury status? Where’s he at on the road to recovery? He went UDFA because of injury concerns. Was tabbed as a 3rd/4th rounder. If you can play, you can play! Definitely an intriguing option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Too bad the usc dude flew the coup last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 PFF scouting report: Jon Toth, C, Kentucky BY PFF ANALYSIS TEAM • MAR 30, 2017 LEXINGTON, KY - SEPTEMBER 17: Jon Toth #72 of the Kentucky Wildcats gets set to snap the ball against the New Mexico State Aggies during the game at Commonwealth Stadium on September 24, 2016 in Lexington, Kentucky. Kentucky defeated New Mexico State 62-42. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images) Name: Jon Toth School: Kentucky Position fit: Center Stats to know: Graded better in 2015 than 2016. Allowed a sack, two QB hits and seven QB hurries in 2016. Finished with his lowest pass-blocking grade in 2016. What he does best: Stout, powerful frame. High ceiling, somewhat raw and unrefined. Shows good blocking demeanor on most blocks (looks the part). Executed Kentucky’s inside zone scheme well. Posted the top run-blocking grade among interior offensive linemen during both Senior Bowl practice and in the game. Committed only two penalties in all of 2016 and only nine over the last three years. Biggest concern: Will lose on initial contact and gets steered by the defensive tackle in the run game. Gets overextended a bit much and loses balance. Comes to a stop to hit at 2L. Is this coaching or lack of skill? Wasn’t asked to extend himself much within Kentucky’s scheme. Raises questions about versatility at the next level. Grading took a step back in 2016 after two strong seasons in 2014 and 2015. Bottom line: Toth was not challenged in Kentucky’s scheme, but he executed it well, even with a step back in his grading in 2016. He has the power and frame to be a solid run-blocker, though he may be limited to more of a downhill scheme rather than one that heavily feature outside zone. He has potential to develop into a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 The podcast also mentioned that if Gase is going to a power running game that it's one of Toth's strengths and fits that position well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Stefen Wisniewski or Sullivan as well Some decent draft prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 He slipped through the cracks. The Kurt Warner of Centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jon-toth?id=2557849 OVERVIEW Toth (pronounced TOETH) is a bit of Renaissance Man, a mechanical engineering major and fluent Spanish-speaker who just happens to have been one of the top centers in college football the past couple of seasons. He redshirted in his first year in Lexington, played as a back-up in the first game of his freshman season, and then started the next 48 games in the pivot over the next four years. Toth was a SEC All-Freshman squad selection in 2013, and capped his career with a first-team all-conference effort in 2016, helping the Wildcats get to their first bowl game since 2010. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Four-year starter in competitive SEC. Good size and bulk. Understands his physical limitations and plays to his strengths. Fits into blocks with good body control and at a leveraged strike position. Unlocks hips at contact on down blocks to pin defender and present a running lane. Generates power from his lower half. Held his own against formidable Alabama defensive front. Utilizes efficient, compact punch. Has good hand strength to snatch and engage. Operates with plus hand placement, and willing to re-set hands to improve positioning when necessary. Able to control shoulder and steer opponent away from the hole. Good arm length for a center. Looks for work in pass protection and has enough anchor to thwart a bull rush. WEAKNESSES Marginal athlete. Plays with heavy feet and below-average lateral quickness. Could struggle with sudden redirects inside to catch blitzers and twisters. Struggles to mirror athletic, interior rushers in pass pro. Labors to recover once beaten. Snap-to-step quickness is very average. Effectiveness wanes beyond line of scrimmage. Has some hip stiffness which causes him to rely on leaning over bending. A little slow in his climb to second level. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 BOTTOM LINE Toth is a tough, four-year starter. Will appeal to teams looking for centers who can operate in a power-based rushing scheme. While he's better in a phone booth than on the move, he understands his limitations and does a good job of staying within himself. He's not the best athlete at the position but his size, arm length, strength and consistency should outweigh that on the next level. Toth has the traits and ability to be an eventual starter in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, ljr said: I can't load anything from this $hitty old iPad ... But google has feel good story of him overcoming disc/back surgery to be fighting to achieve his lifelong dream https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-football/article160685344.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Forgot he was on the roster. Let him compete with Harrison, but still, can't go into the season counting on either of these guys to start. Maybe one of them steps up and proves they can handle it, but we still need to add an experienced guy to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Love when the Jets solve a thorny personnel issue by simply elevating a guy off the practice squad. Definitely a thing that’s possible on this plane of existence Like expecting a 6th round qb to be a HOFer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Only 25, so he's not too long in the toth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lith said: Forgot he was on the roster. Let him compete with Harrison, but still, can't go into the season counting on either of these guys to start. Maybe one of them steps up and proves they can handle it, but we still need to add an experienced guy to the mix. But not at 10M guaranteed. Wisniewski at vet minimum or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 It would be a great sports story, if he could win the C job at TC and end up hugging and kissing the Lombardi Trophy with his FQB and mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 If he is healthy, he is worth the shot and would compare to another player the Jets would take in RD 3 and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Sure, let him compete. But sign another FA - Wiesnewski or Brett Jones - or draft a guy in the 3rd round. We can't go into camp with just Harrison and Toth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Like expecting a 6th round qb to be a HOFer oh sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Only 25, so he's not too long in the toth. Get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Only 25, so he's not too long in the toth. Reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Copernicus said: The presenter brought up many points as to how Toth might make sense for the Jets. Confusing, what did the Jets do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Confusing, what did the Jets do? Nothing per say. I should have said host of the podcast. Hey was vey enthusiastic about Toth as a major possibility as starting center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 so, it got me thinking.... who do we know who is out there who we've heard of who started at practice/scout team? https://www.stack.com/a/7-nfl-stars-who-started-their-careers-by-dominating-on-the-scout-team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Too bad the usc dude flew the coup last year. If the dude was smart he would have said to himself "... this OL sucks! I could play on 1 leg and beat out all these JAG's with my boy Sammy." Instead he leaves to sit on the Broncos bench for an extra $50k and will never see the field. Dude deserves what he gets for abandoning Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I liked Toth coming out of Kentucky. He played decent against Bama. I was surprised when he didn't get drafted. Lost track of him after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: If the dude was smart he would have said to himself "... this OL sucks! I could play on 1 leg and beat out all these JAG's with my boy Sammy." Instead he leaves to sit on the Broncos bench for an extra $50k and will never see the field. Dude deserves what he gets for abandoning Sammy As of right now Nico Falah IS the Broncos starting center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneChrebet80 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 At this point the logical move for the Jets would be to sign a veteran, draft a kid in rd 3, and let both of them compete with Harrison and Toth for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Which would be better? Starting center for the New York Jets with the college quarterback you spent three years snapping the ball to or Joe Flacco? I think the answer is clear… Niko screwed the pooch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Toth is an interesting fit as his scouting report is pretty clear that he would be better suited for an inside zone/power scheme instead of outside zone, and we will be running inside zone/power now. Every scouting report and his combine performance mentions his lack of athleticism. It also appears he had surgery on his back which affected his draft status. I happen to think that Garret Bradbury is a very elite prospect and if there is a way for us to trade down and get him along with an edge rusher, it would be an ideal fit next to Osmele and allow the offense to do a ton of different things as he is such an incredible athlete for a center. Hes also still learning the position after originally being a tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, WayneChrebet80 said: At this point the logical move for the Jets would be to sign a veteran, draft a kid in rd 3, and let both of them compete with Harrison and Toth for the job. They could sign Josh Sitton who has experience playing center, knows Gase's offense (would help Darnold), shouldn't cost a lot and if he does lose the center battle, he would be good as a backup guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 IMO, Gase likes Harrison. Jets didn't even offer Paradis, or Morse. Harrison will more then likely be the opening day starter. I forgot about Toth. Could very well be competition, or a back up plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Ahhhh an Indy kid....now I gotta pull for the dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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