genot Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 If the Chiefs release Hill, or he's suspended by the NFL indefinitely, the Chiefs might make an offer to Robby, which is well beyond his market value. What doe's Mac do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, genot said: If the Chiefs release Hill, or he's suspended by the NFL indefinitely, the Chiefs might make an offer to Robby, which is well beyond his market value. What doe's Mac do?? I can see this happening. They have a high 2nd which isn’t ideal. We need a center badly and may need a pick like this. If they are confident they can get a good WR in the 3rd, it may be ok. I’d rather not take away weapons from Sam but we desperately need a C and time will help Sam with all of his weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoose Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Neither of the Chief’s second round picks are very desirable, #61 and #63... they’re practically third round picks. I’d imagine Macc has to match an offer from a late-picking team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, genot said: What doe's Mac do?? This is my next tattoo 2 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted March 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 I am still concerned a team might make a rich offer to swipe Robby. But it won't be Kansas City. The Chiefs are having character and image problems. I am a big believer in Robby's talents, but he hasn't quite been exemplary as a person during his career. The Chiefs won't dump one alleged character failure for another risky one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, genot said: If the Chiefs release Hill, or he's suspended by the NFL indefinitely, the Chiefs might make an offer to Robby, which is well beyond his market value. What doe's Mac do?? They'd have to sign Robby and make it a poison pill contract the Jets would refuse to match...I would think. Like 6 years for FQB money. Can they do something like that with their CAP situation? Suspending Hill doesn't subtract money from their CAP. And Chiefs would have zero flexibility from then on even if possible. I think Robby is safe as WR NYJ for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 The window for another team to sign Robbie to an offer sheet runs through April 19th. I doubt anything definitive comes down on Hill in the next month that would force the Chiefs to bail on him and tender an offer we couldn't match to Robbie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Why the **** do half of the fans want to create more holes? The WR core isn’t that good so why make it worse. Anderson serve a purpose. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsbb Posted March 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 According to spotrac Robby's market value is 11.7 million a year. He is a ****ING GOOD player. A low first round pick is even below market value for him. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/robby-anderson-19352/market-value/ 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 Not sure making an offer well beyond his market value is an option for them. They are in salary cap hell, demonstrated in the decimation of their defense through free agency and forced trades. Dee Ford was sacrificed by trade, due to cap constraints. In free agency Justin Houston, Mitch Morse, and Chris Conley were just some of the Chief's cap victims. The Chiefs are in no position to make generous offers to anyone. Should that scenario, come to pass, the Jets will weigh the offer and proceed accordingly. Tendering Robby for a #2 was a strategy not a careless mistake. I'm sure they prepared for any contingency that would arise. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: They'd have to sign Robby and make it a poison pill contract the Jets would refuse to match...I would think. Like 6 years for FQB money. Can they do something like that with their CAP situation? Suspending Hill doesn't subtract money from their CAP. And Chiefs would have zero flexibility from then on even if possible. I think Robby is safe as WR NYJ for this year. I like Robby. hope your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Why the **** do half of the fans want to create more holes? The WR core isn’t that good so why make it worse. Anderson serve a purpose. Trust me I get it. The problem with this draft is the talent for center will be dried up by round 3 and we may be able to get a decent wideout in the 3rd round. C is more of a desperate need which is the only reason why adding the pick may make sense. Now if we could just trade up our 2 3rd round picks and snag a center in the 2nd, that would be IDEAL. This trading Anderson scenario would help ensure that we can get our guy if we don’t trade down in the first is all. Yes it would create another hole. Just not as desperate of a position and odds are we could find a decent WR prospect in the 3rd unlike C. It’s just something that should be considered. I don’t like the idea of a hole at WR either but I see it as more of a shifting of assets and if Anderson doesn’t fit a Gase offense well, it’s not as big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Can’t they leave more than a few good targets Sam is familiar with, especially Robbie? I think it’s good for Robbie to be on this team with some of the high character guys on the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted March 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 I wonder if part of the reason for the R2 tender was to gauge Robby's market value and then match an offer for a long term deal, instead if bidding against themselves on an extension. Risky strategy if someone offers more than you think he is worth, but it gives us the option to either get a premium draft asset or match his long term deal. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Lith said: I wonder if part of the reason for the R2 tender was to gauge Robby's market value and then match an offer for a long term deal, instead if bidding against themselves on an extension. Risky strategy if someone offers more than you think he is worth, but it gives us the option to either get a premium draft asset or match his long term deal. I think you hit the nail right on the head. This Hill situation is what makes it a risky proposition. Some other teams key receiver blows out his knee playing pick up basketball. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lith said: I wonder if part of the reason for the R2 tender was to gauge Robby's market value and then match an offer for a long term deal, instead if bidding against themselves on an extension. Risky strategy if someone offers more than you think he is worth, but it gives us the option to either get a premium draft asset or match his long term deal. Thats a terrible strategy. I mean if Mac is afraid of bidding vs himself, then hes awful peorid. You risk losing Sams best target, a WR who can help Bell because hes a deep threat and has to be accounted for all because your negotiation tactics are terrible? YUCK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, genot said: If the Chiefs release Hill, or he's suspended by the NFL indefinitely, the Chiefs might make an offer to Robby, which is well beyond his market value. What doe's Mac do?? WTF do you mean WHAT "Does Mac do??" THE OBVIOUS!!!! He'll stare down his pants and assure that HIS Nutz are STILL there, unlike yours by the question and implied fret in your post, and TRADES that 1 STRIKE-AWAY from Suspension by the NFL Speed Demon (Gase would be on board according to his glowing comments to "up" Robbie's value at the combine") TO K.C. & the Kool-Aid Man for a 2nd and 5th Round pick in THIS DRAFT!!! I LOVE watching Robbie, but YOU TAKE the value and WE NEED Starting OLine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, TheGoose said: Neither of the Chief’s second round picks are very desirable, #61 and #63... they’re practically third round picks. I’d imagine Macc has to match an offer from a late-picking team. They STILL have value. IF you can package those picks WITH OUR 3rds (or some combination of other picks) to MOVE UP INTO the 2nd round, a team like the Giants, TB, Raiders would be willing dance partners in DIRE need of Quantity over quality. WE NEED Quality over Quantity b/c Mac can't Draft for $hit unless it's "gifted to him." With our luck, we'll be "Gifted Ed Oliver in the 2nd round" LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: They'd have to sign Robby and make it a poison pill contract the Jets would refuse to match...I would think. Like 6 years for FQB money. Can they do something like that with their CAP situation? Suspending Hill doesn't subtract money from their CAP. And Chiefs would have zero flexibility from then on even if possible. I think Robby is safe as WR NYJ for this year. Agreed but for the few xtra bucks I wish we tendered Robby with a 1st instead of 2nd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: Agreed but for the few xtra bucks I wish we tendered Robby with a 1st instead of 2nd. Agreed! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 For all the talk about a center, Jonathan Harrison was pretty good last year once he took over and they slid spencer long to left guard. I guess everyone is better than our player on the roster. you can’t fix it all in a single year and center was ok once we made the change. I feel like we can live with Harrison for a single year if need be until we can get a long term answer. as far as Robbie goes, he’s a really good player that needs to stay as long as he can stay out of trouble. With out cap situation I don’t think we’re in danger of losing him at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: They'd have to sign Robby and make it a poison pill contract the Jets would refuse to match...I would think. Like 6 years for FQB money. Can they do something like that with their CAP situation? Suspending Hill doesn't subtract money from their CAP. And Chiefs would have zero flexibility from then on even if possible. I think Robby is safe as WR NYJ for this year. Those are ILLEGAL now thanks to 1998 Cap-ologist and eventual Jets GM Michael Tannenbaum in his structuring Curtis Martin's RFA Contract Offer AND then, IIRC, it became an OFFICIALLY BANNED Practice by the NFL AFTER Steve Hutchinson's RFA Contract by Minnesota to steal him from Seattle the following year. The NY Jets . . . ALWAYS setting NEW PRECEDENT in the NFL! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 There has been nothing released that implicates Hill in anything. The incident took place at his address. That is all I have seen so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is my next tattoo Will you put it next to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: WTF do you mean WHAT "Does Mac do??" THE OBVIOUS!!!! He'll stare down his pants and assure that HIS Nutz are STILL there, unlike yours by the question and implied fret in your post, and TRADES that 1 STRIKE-AWAY from Suspension by the NFL Speed Demon (Gase would be on board according to his glowing comments to "up" Robbie's value at the combine") TO K.C. & the Kool-Aid Man for a 2nd and 5th Round pick in THIS DRAFT!!! I LOVE watching Robbie, but YOU TAKE the value and WE NEED Starting OLine. That's what you would do. To imply that if someone feels differently, he has his head in the sand is unfair. My guess is someone makes an offer and it's not ridiculously above market value. Mac matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Will you put it next to this one. Presuming you’re not posting this sh*t on an iPad because the juice running down your fingers from the home’s apricot slices would mess up the screen??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: Agreed but for the few xtra bucks I wish we tendered Robby with a 1st instead of 2nd. Mac is dangling Robby for another team to take and give us a second round pick. The Jets are not paying Robby 10mm/year. We can figure out the WR later. Take the pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Presuming you’re not posting this sh*t on an iPad because the juice running down your fingers from the home’s apricot slices would mess up the screen??? Come on man you and I both know i'm not living in a group home or at a facility where they do testing on humans, you on the other other hand seem to know all the tricks of the trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 you guys are nuts...RA is an average player who A) is too dumb to stay out of trouble and B ) only does 1 thing well.....never seen the guy break a tackle, run a complex route, or run an end around....he just runs straight really fast and falls down on first contact. if we can get a 2 for him, id drive him to KC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Team archer said: Thats a terrible strategy. I mean if Mac is afraid of bidding vs himself, then hes awful peorid. You risk losing Sams best target, a WR who can help Bell because hes a deep threat and has to be accounted for all because your negotiation tactics are terrible? YUCK I don't necessarily agree. By tendering him, we have control. We can match any offer, or we can let him go and get a 2. If he plays the season under the tender, then he is UFA next season, and he would have control rather than us. If he leaves, we might get a comp pick, but probably a 4 or 5 at best. Some risks involved either way, but I don't see it as a terrbile strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, k-met57 said: you guys are nuts...RA is an average player who A) is too dumb to stay out of trouble and B ) only does 1 thing well.....never seen the guy break a tackle, run a complex route, or run an end around....he just runs straight really fast and falls down on first contact. if we can get a 2 for him, id drive him to KC. A receiver who tracks the ball very well and makes very difficult catches along the sidelines. Best receiver we have had in a couple of years. Not a true #1 but could become one in time and with hard work 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I want to see Robby stay. I think he's a bit better than some of you are giving him credit to, based on his last 4 weeks once Sam got back on the field. Having said that, here's a question. After watching Kareem Hunt and now Tyreek Hill blow up due to bad off-field behavior, what do you think KC is looking for in their replacements? Probably not Robby. Certainly not to a huge contract. I think we can all put down the Zoloft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, nycdan said: I want to see Robby stay. I think he's a bit better than some of you are giving him credit to, based on his last 4 weeks once Sam got back on the field. Having said that, here's a question. After watching Kareem Hunt and now Tyreek Hill blow up due to bad off-field behavior, what do you think KC is looking for in their replacements? Probably not Robby. Certainly not to a huge contract. Robby is an angel compared to those 2 knuckleheads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, genot said: If the Chiefs release Hill, or he's suspended by the NFL indefinitely, the Chiefs might make an offer to Robby, which is well beyond his market value. What doe's Mac do?? Let him go. That's why he put a price tag on his head to begin with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Robby is an angel compared to those 2 knuckleheads. Yes, but don't you think KC is likely to err on the side of caution with their next move to possibly replace Hill if he's facing a suspension or they have to release him? Robby is still 1 strike away from a serious suspension as he's probably used up all of the league's patience. I think he'll be fine but I don't think KC is in a position to gamble on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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