Can the defense go from good to great with the 3rd overall pick

[Maxman]

Which player elevates this team the fastest?

[Nixhead]

Bosa - if he can stay healthy. 

[14 in Green]

When did we get this "Good Defense" you speak of?

[The Crimson King]

Remember that whoever is drafted is still a ROOKIE

[slimjasi]

Good is not the word I'd use, but regardless, an impact pass rusher is precisely what any good doctor is ordering. 

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, The Crimson King said:

Remember that whoever is drafted is still a ROOKIE

If we are talking about an impact pass-rusher, that statement is only marginally relevant. 

[Beerfish]

Good?  Dude please.  Can't vote after that.

Crappy to decent might be a better metric.

As for the players listed.

Bosa, Allen.  That is it.

[jeremy2020]

Todd Bowles presided over the 25th ranked defense which is pretty good by the standards of some posters on this board. That's only 4 spots behind Gregg Williams defense.

[SayNoToDMC]

Allen I guess. We need an edge rusher and I'm not sure I trust Bosa to stay healthy. I'd really just rather not pick at #3 though and collect more draft capital 

[NYJ1]

I don't think this poll was done correctly. People forget Rex's 2009 and 2010 defenses were number one and number four. This all without a pass rush. So my thinking says the Jets still can trade down and with Williams pulling the strings have a top 5 defense. It's all about personnel and the Jets already have it.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

1 hour ago, NYJ1 said:

I don't think this poll was done correctly. People forget Rex's 2009 and 2010 defenses were number one and number four. This all without a pass rush. So my thinking says the Jets still can trade down and with Williams pulling the strings have a top 5 defense. It's all about personnel and the Jets already have it.

I just have a feeling that a lot of Jets fans are going to be saying, “oh so that’s what real coaches do, game plan, strategize, make adjustments...both sides of the ball”...next year...”it’s been so long, I forgot what that looked like”.

[bealeb319]

Can't fill edge rusher role and cb2 with one draft pick and we have major holes at both

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[themeangreenkillingmachine]

Defense is less important than it has ever been in this league. The jets have been a defense 1st team for 20 years. 

Focus on offense. 

Trade down and focus on LT/C/WR

[New York Mick]

They need more then one player to make either side of the ball great. Off that list Bosa or Williams

[FidelioJet]

Todd Bowles presided over the 25th ranked defense which is pretty good by the standards of some posters on this board. That's only 4 spots behind Gregg Williams defense.

And 6 spots better than Adam Gase’s offense (31st overall)





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[Jethead]

To be honest, Bosa scares me the most. Poor man’s Clay Matthews and injury prone. High bust factor.

Hate the thought of another interior DL.

 I will be surprised if anybody offers enough value to trade out.

Right now, I take Allen but reserve the right to change my mind 50 times between now and draft day.

 

 

[Jetmech]

I don't think this poll was done correctly. People forget Rex's 2009 and 2010 defenses were number one and number four. This all without a pass rush. So my thinking says the Jets still can trade down and with Williams pulling the strings have a top 5 defense. It's all about personnel and the Jets already have it.

Revis had a lot to do with those rankings.


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[Philc1]

If Allen plays great right away yes

[Maxman]

9 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Good?  Dude please.  Can't vote after that.

Crappy to decent might be a better metric.

As for the players listed.

Bosa, Allen.  That is it.

If you don't think the defense is going to be good under Williams with Henry Anderson coming back and CJ Mosely in the mix, well then just wait and see.  Plus the draft day additions. And the pressure being off the defense with a real offense. Jets fans will be pleasantly surprised.

[GreenFish]

10 hours ago, Nixhead said:

Bosa - if he can stay healthy. 

That’s a big IF. 

[Philc1]

1 minute ago, Maxman said:

If you don't think the defense is going to be good under Williams with Henry Anderson coming back and CJ Mosely in the mix, well then just wait and see.  Plus the draft day additions. And the pressure being off the defense with a real offense. Jets fans will be pleasantly surprised.

Getting rid of Skrine, Lee and Bowles just by itself upgrades the D

[Maxman]

9 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Getting rid of Skrine, Lee and Bowles just by itself upgrades the D

I am not as down on Skrine and Lee as others. But getting rid of Bowles and Kacy is a huge upgrade for sure.

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, NYJ1 said:

I don't think this poll was done correctly.

Ya think?  He should have allowed one to choose more than one option, and instead of "Neither", it should have been "None of the Above". 

@Maxman do you even poll, bro?

[Maxman]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Ya think?  He should have allowed one to choose more than one option, and instead of "Neither", it should have been "None of the Above". 

@Maxman do you even poll, bro?

No, I really don't. If you all saw how long it took me to post what I did the already shaky level of confidence I have from the masses here would go way down.

[GreenFish]

Of that list, I’m going Quinnen. But he alone doesn’t make this defense great. Still need a CB #2 and an edge or two. 

[peebag]

4 hours ago, bealeb319 said:

Can't fill edge rusher role and cb2 and OLine with one draft pick and we have major holes at both

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fixed that for you.

[peebag]

If Quinnen is there, they take him - then tell Leo "prove it" and if he doesn't, he's gone.

[bitonti]

Jets fans are underrating Quinnen Williams. Not sure why exactly but he's real good, maybe a gold jacket type. I hope they get a shot at drafting him

[Scoop24]

I’m just here for the whining after we draft Quinnen. 

[jetstream23]

Question - If Nick's last name wasn't Bosa would he still be considered the #1 guy?  I think he'd be Top 5 but there's some "wind at his back" having the Bosa name IMO.

I do think a realistic discussion of his shortcomings is warranted in a Draft that easily has 5 pass rushers worthy of being taken in the Top 12.

[David Harris]

15 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Question - If Nick's last name wasn't Bosa would he still be considered the #1 guy?  I think he'd be Top 5 but there's some "wind at his back" having the Bosa name IMO.

I do think a realistic discussion of his shortcomings is warranted in a Draft that easily has 5 pass rushers worthy of being taken in the Top 12.

I think it does raise his profile for sure but appropriately so because bloodlines do count for something plus having a dad and brother know the ins and outs of the NFL and also teach him technique (supposedly he has great hand fighting like a samurai) - these things should give him a little boost.  He's a refined pass rusher and as good an athlete of his brother who was #3 overall and is/was worthy of being a first overall player in his own right.

[ljr]

21 minutes ago, David Harris said:

I think it does raise his profile for sure but appropriately so because bloodlines do count for something plus having a dad and brother know the ins and outs of the NFL and also teach him technique (supposedly he has great hand fighting like a samurai) - these things should give him a little boost.  He's a refined pass rusher and as good an athlete of his brother who was #3 overall and is/was worthy of being a first overall player in his own right.

 

[Jethead]

40 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Question - If Nick's last name wasn't Bosa would he still be considered the #1 guy?  I think he'd be Top 5 but there's some "wind at his back" having the Bosa name IMO.

I do think a realistic discussion of his shortcomings is warranted in a Draft that easily has 5 pass rushers worthy of being taken in the Top 12.

Major reservations:

• He seems like a real "me" guy. All that counts are his stats.
• Can he stay on the field? 
• Not the sharpest knife in the drawer

Sure doesn't seem like he ought to be the first overall pick in the draft.

[jack48]

12 hours ago, Nixhead said:

Bosa - if he can stay healthy. 

my prob with Bosa is how healthy he feels he has to be.