jack48 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The Tomlinson penalties are what I hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, tfine said: Here we go with the Jets fans thinking every backup has to be a pro bowler Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Wrong. We would like our players not to be walking penalty machines killing drives with stupidity. Big diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Exactly. Criticizing Macc for his mistakes is absolutely fair but not giving him credit for anything is just agenda driven IMO MDO--Macc Derangement Syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Nobody is saying they are great but its ******* depth, they wont be used F that....we know who these two guys are and the one thing they aren't is good. I'd much rather sign some no-names or players that were lower round draft picks that ended up injured and never got a shot to stick with their original teams. At least they would have a 1% chance of turning into something useful. Hell, look at the AAF and scout some lineman that looks halfway decent. I really don't care but continuing to employ two worthless bodies for "depth" does absolutely nothing to improve this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I made it a point to watch Qvale last preseason. I think he's horrible and should not be anyone's swing tackle. Need to address the tackle position in the draft (as well as center). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, JetFreak89 said: F that....we know who these two guys are and the one thing they aren't is good. I'd much rather sign some no-names or players that were lower round draft picks that ended up injured and never got a shot to stick with their original teams. At least they would have a 1% chance of turning into something useful. Hell, look at the AAF and scout some lineman that looks halfway decent. I really don't care but continuing to employ two worthless bodies for "depth" does absolutely nothing to improve this team. SO you would rather deal with the devil you dont know rather than the devil you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, RichardTodd27 said: I made it a point to watch Qvale last preseason. I think he's horrible and should not be anyone's swing tackle. Need to address the tackle position in the draft (as well as center). Didnt Compton play tackle as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, RichardTodd27 said: I made it a point to watch Qvale last preseason. I think he's horrible and should not be anyone's swing tackle. Need to address the tackle position in the draft (as well as center). Braden was much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 These guys are both terrible. Arguably the two worst players on the team last yr. Hopefully they get beat out by some rookies and are cut prior to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetFreak89 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: SO you would rather deal with the devil you dont know rather than the devil you do? 100%. Qvale has been here 5 years! Tomlinson 3. I'm not looking for Pro Bowlers, I'll settle for league average players. But if your back up roster spots are all taken by guys who have been around for 5 years and still haven't amounted to anything, you're limiting the potential to find a diamond in the rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tomlinson literally has one job to do but still commits the dumbest penalties in the worse situations. Hope he takes advantage of this second chance. I thought for sure he was headed to the AAF or XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tomlinson is a great example of fans not understanding what they're watching, and how difficult it is to grade blocking. He's not a great TE but he is a very good blocker. If you pancake a safety you get an A but if you get run over by Khalil Mack it's an F and everyone hates you. He's not a tackle but he was asked to block like one last year and didn't do very well. I would hope the new staff puts him in a better position this year. No TE is going to fare well blocking premier edge rushers one on one which ET was tasked with many times last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: Tomlinson is a great example of fans not understanding what they're watching, and how difficult it is to grade blocking. He's not a great TE but he is a very good blocker. If you pancake a safety you get an A but if you get run over by Khalil Mack it's an F and everyone hates you. He's not a tackle but he was asked to block like one last year and didn't do very well. I would hope the new staff puts him in a better position this year. No TE is going to fare well blocking premier edge rushers one on one which ET was tasked with many times last year. Doesn't matter how well you block on 3rd and 1 when you move before the whistle and turn it into a 3rd and 6, changing the call from a run to a pass so that your "run-blocking" TE jogs over to the sideline shaking his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tomlinson is a great example of fans not understanding what they're watching, and how difficult it is to grade blocking. He's not a great TE but he is a very good blocker. If you pancake a safety you get an A but if you get run over by Khalil Mack it's an F and everyone hates you. He's not a tackle but he was asked to block like one last year and didn't do very well. I would hope the new staff puts him in a better position this year. No TE is going to fare well blocking premier edge rushers one on one which ET was tasked with many times last year. He definitely fell off hard from his previous years so hopefully you're right. But the penalties, especially mental errors, are inexcusable given the limited amount of snaps he gets. Either way, I'm sure they will bring in others to compete with him during camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I’m surprised Tomlinson was able to be resigned With the intense market he found out there. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Qvality signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Qvale deal is 1 year, $1.4 million with a chance to reach $2.4 million with incentives, per source . $550k guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: Correct and there's nothing wrong with that. If they get beat out it will mean we found better replacements as an upgrade. I don't see the problem bringing in bodies either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, rayzor said: Qvale deal is 1 year, $1.4 million with a chance to reach $2.4 million with incentives, per source . $550k guaranteed. Qvale is a good back up RT, (actually IMO, as good as Shell) and an adequate RG. As long as they don't try to put him at LT this is a good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Understand both signings but disappointed none the less. Hope that by the end of camp our roster has improved enough that both get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mrcoops said: Tomlinson gets a bad rep because he has had penalties, but he's easily the best blocking TE on the team and one of the better blocking specialists in the league. For a cheap #2 behind Herndon, he's more than adequate. I'll have to disagree here. He's labeled as a blocking TE but he sucks at blocking. All I remember is him getting pushed around at the point of attack. I really hope he doesn't make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, RobR said: I'll have to disagree here. He's labeled as a blocking TE but he sucks at blocking. All I remember is him getting pushed around at the point of attack. I really hope he doesn't make the team. Because he was asked to do this year what a blocking TE is NOT suppose to do, and that is take on the best edge rushers. He is suppose to cover blitzing CB's and Safeties, not the likes of Cameron Wake and Khalil Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Lmaoo we just can’t escape these 2 huh . I don’t get it. They are pure trash and we’re actually free agents. Just let them go and give any bums off the street a chance. Wtf??? Why can’t we get away from this garbage??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tomlinson was the biggest waste of a roster spot last year. He will continue to be if he is on the roster this year. Zero value added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ken Shroy said: I really think that Tomlinson isnt worthy of even being on any nfl roster. Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Because he was asked to do this year what a blocking TE is NOT suppose to do, and that is take on the best edge rushers. He is suppose to cover blitzing CB's and Safeties, not the likes of Cameron Wake and Khalil Mack. This is true. We also have to consider bang for buck. The top blocking TEs on other teams are pulling down $4M-$5M or more per year. The Jets just resigned Tomlinson, a good blocker, probably for less than the $2M low tender they refused to use on him. He's a cheap option as the blocking TE. Like kicker, it's just a position where the Jets just don't ever want to spend big money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, RobR said: I'll have to disagree here. He's labeled as a blocking TE but he sucks at blocking. All I remember is him getting pushed around at the point of attack. I really hope he doesn't make the team. You have to look at whom he is getting pushed around by to make a judgment. No TE is going to do well against a DE. It's just not going to happen. They need to chip, double team, or block in the secondary. That he does as well as any TE. That's why he plays. The rest of our guys are move TEs. They don't even play the same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Lmaoo we just can’t escape these 2 huh . I think Macc accidentally left a contract laying around the office and Tomlinson found it and quickly signed it before the Jets could stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Perhaps you will be available when Mac is fired. Nah he only drafts scrubs. Don’t lose hope, he may draft your heroes from the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: Because he was asked to do this year what a blocking TE is NOT suppose to do, and that is take on the best edge rushers. He is suppose to cover blitzing CB's and Safeties, not the likes of Cameron Wake and Khalil Mack. 1 hour ago, NYs Stepchild said: You have to look at whom he is getting pushed around by to make a judgment. No TE is going to do well against a DE. It's just not going to happen. They need to chip, double team, or block in the secondary. That he does as well as any TE. That's why he plays. The rest of our guys are move TEs. They don't even play the same position. The problem is as a blocking TE he couldn't block anybody regardless of who his responsibility was on a certain play. It's also the reason why his playing time was cut to almost nothing towards the end of the season. It baffles me why some people stick up for a guy who was the worst player on our team last year. He's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Nah he only drafts scrubs. Don’t lose hope, he may draft your heroes from the CFL. Too bad you're new; two of us Canadians suggested 10 years ago for the Jets to check out a young guy named Cameron Wake. But, you weren't born yet, so......We will give you a pass on that one Wonderboy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, RobR said: The problem is as a blocking TE he couldn't block anybody regardless of who his responsibility was on a certain play. It's also the reason why his playing time was cut to almost nothing towards the end of the season. It baffles me why some people stick up for a guy who was the worst player on our team last year. He's useless. Nobody is sticking up for the guy! He is a camp body. If he gets beat out, great! If he improves...great! Its all the posters who rag on decisions like this as if its the only thing that has been done in all of free agency so far that gets annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hold the forters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, NYs Stepchild said: Tomlinson is a great example of fans not understanding what they're watching, and how difficult it is to grade blocking. He's not a great TE but he is a very good blocker. If you pancake a safety you get an A but if you get run over by Khalil Mack it's an F and everyone hates you. He's not a tackle but he was asked to block like one last year and didn't do very well. I would hope the new staff puts him in a better position this year. No TE is going to fare well blocking premier edge rushers one on one which ET was tasked with many times last year. Did you stick up for Matt Mulligan like this? Cause Mulligan was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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