4 players Jets could take in NFL Draft if they trade down

[stugotz81]

These options mostly suck.  The only one I like is Greedy but would prefer one of the top WR instead at that point in the draft.

4 players Jets could take in NFL Draft if they trade down

Mike Maccagnan could still get elite defensive help further down

By Scott Thompson | Mar 21 | 2:53PM

Mike Maccagnan

As expected, the Jets have been extremely busy in free agency as the lead into the NFL Draft. And when late April comes around, New York has great position at No. 3 to add another immediate impact player for next season. 

But with that high draft pick and the Jets already settled in the quarterback department, GM Mike Maccagnan will certainly be listening to phone calls to potentially make a trade to move down. 

The Jets will likely be looking for a defensive playmaker with that third overall selection, and though players like DE Josh Allen and DE Nick Bosa are in the conversation in the Top 3, there are still plenty more elite prospects to choose from. But, if all signs point to the Cardinals selecting QB Kyler Murray first overall, the Jets would likely keep that No. 3 pick to get either Allen or Bosa.

So, with that in mind, here are a few quarterback-needy teams the Jets could trade with, and who they could take with their pick... 

Giants (No. 6 overall): DE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

It's hard to see DT Quinnen Williams dropping this far, especially passed the Raiders or Bucs who both need help up front. Ferrell, though, is an edge rusher that has also seen much success in the SEC during his career at Clemson. 

Over the past two seasons, the 6-foot-4, 264-pound Ferrell has totaled 21 sacks and 38 tackles for loss on his way to a National Championship in 2018 as well. Ferrell has the size, speed, and most importantly, pass-rushing technique with strong hands to get into the backfield. 

Broncos (No. 10 overall): LB Devin White, LSU

Yes, John Elway traded for veteran QB Joe Flacco, but he is on the last leg of his career and solidifying a quarterback for the future is once again on his agenda in Denver. Trading up with the Jets would make sense if he falls in love with Haskins, and wants to beat the Giants to him. 

Here the Dick Butkus Award-winning White finds his way to Gang Green, and he can be plugged either inside or outside for the Jets. White dazzled at the combine with a 4.42 40-yard dash, 22 bench press reps, and a 39.5 vertical. He has totaled 133 and 123 tackles in 2017 and 2018 respectively, and has 7.5 sacks over those two seasons. 

White has everything the Jets want in a linebacker, and combining him with Avery Williamson and C.J. Mosley would be a fun group to watch.

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Sep 15, 2018; Auburn, AL, USA; Auburn Tigers running back JaTarvious Whitlow (28) is tackled by LSU linebacker Devin White (40) during the fourth quarter at Jordan-Hare Stadium. LSU beat Auburn 22-21. Mandatory Credit: John Reed-USA TODAY Sports (John Reed)

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Dolphins - No. 13 overall: DE Rashan Gary

The Dolphins have Ryan Fitzpatrick as their starter at the moment, and that may not fly unless Miami is going full tank mode. So giving the Jets a nice package could be their move to land a quarterback to compete with Fitz in training camp. 

Here, the Jets get Gary, who some believe to be a Top-10 pick. Gary was highly touted coming out of Paramus Catholic High School in New Jersey, and though he didn't get the numbers he may have hoped for at Michigan, his ceiling is still said to be high. Gary totaled 3.5 sacks in nine games last season after posting 5.5 in 2017. 

At 6-foot-4, 277 pounds, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams could use him as a defensive lineman, making him a tough matchup with his speed and strength.

Redskins - No. 15 overall: CB Greedy Williams, LSU

If the Jets are trading down this far, they are surely getting a haul from Washington that would add to their six picks in this year's draft. But, instead of going for a new member on their front-seven, they shore up a hole at the cornerback position in Williams. 

Williams is arguably the best corner in the draft, possessing the physical stature and smarts needed to be shutdown in the NFL. At 6-foot-2, 185 pounds, Williams ran a 4.37 40-yard dash at the combine and that just verified his ability to stick with some of the fastest receivers in the game. He has also hauled in eight interceptions -- six in 2017 and two last season -- over his LSU career. 

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/4-players-jets-could-take-in-nfl-draft-if-they-trade-down/305517448

 

[UntouchableCrew]

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Ferrell, though, is an edge rusher that has also seen much success in the SEC during his career at Clemson. 

Is the author not aware Clemson is in the ACC?

[dbatesman]

I'm doing the calculations piecemeal, but so far Oliver and Gary are the only guys I've found who hit Waldo's Explosive Power number. Since we all know Maccagnan has neither the brains nor the balls to take Oliver at 3, trading down and getting Gary in the teens is probably our best bet.

[genot]

3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

I'm doing the calculations piecemeal, but so far Oliver and Gary are the only guys I've found who hit Waldo's Explosive Power number. Since we all know Maccagnan has neither the brains nor the balls to take Oliver at 3, trading down and getting Gary in the teens is probably our best bet.

A bunch of other GM's don't have any brains apparently neither. Oliver might not be a top ten pick. For whatever reason. Certainly won't be drafted in the top 5.

[Villain The Foe]

lol....

Not one f'ing offensive player!!!!!!

Drafting Sam Darnold will end up being the saddest thing this franchise has ever done. We're literally going to draft a high potential QB, then squeeze him dry by putting the entire franchise on his back and provide him with nothing but big name defensive draft guys who will end up being mediocre or bust potential (with 1 pro bowler every 4-5 years) and providing Darnold with developmental offensive skillset players in the 3rd round and offensive linemen in the 4th or 5th round. 

Same thing we did with Sanchez and Smith.  Philosophy is the exact same. BUT, Nick Bosa is there, we gotta get him, just like we had to get Leo Williams, just like we had to get Darron Lee, just like we had to get Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye, just like we had to get Pryor, just like we had to get Dee Milliner, just like we had to get Sheldon Richardson, just like we had to get Quinton Coples, just like we had to get Mo Wilkerson, just like we had to get Kyle Wilson. 

And every year, what's the #1 thing folks say that they're saying now? "This defensive guy is different". haha...sure he is. He's going to do wonders for our new QB. Protecting him and being a target all while rushing the QB and scoring touchdowns etc., etc. 

 

You know when this entire franchise changed and became winners? When they took two offensive linemen in the 1st round. 

That genius move did more for this team than any other defensive moves we made. Why? Because we were able to maximize the potential of whatever QB we had at the helm and we established a top 3-10 rushing attack. 

 

Stupid continuous moves like this literally decade after decade is why this franchise is losing respect by their own fans. 

[dbatesman]

3 minutes ago, genot said:

A bunch of other GM's don't have any brains apparently neither. 

No argument from me!

[genot]

3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

No argument from me!

His attitude. Conference he played in????????

[dbatesman]

3 minutes ago, genot said:

His attitude. Conference he played in????????

Who, Oliver?

[genot]

1 minute ago, dbatesman said:

Who, Oliver?

Yea.

[Ohhthepain]

To trade down and not pick an O lineman would just be plain stupid.

[dbatesman]

2 minutes ago, genot said:

Yea.

I don’t know anything about his attitude and I don’t care what conference he played in.

[Paradis]

59 minutes ago, stugotz81 said:

These options mostly suck.  The only one I like is Greedy but would prefer one of the top WR instead at that point in the draft.

4 players Jets could take in NFL Draft if they trade down

Mike Maccagnan could still get elite defensive help further down

By Scott Thompson | Mar 21 | 2:53PM

 Mike Maccagnan

 

Giants (No. 6 overall): DE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

 

 

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Dolphins - No. 13 overall: DE Rashan Gary

 

Redskins - No. 15 overall: CB Greedy Williams, LSU

 

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/4-players-jets-could-take-in-nfl-draft-if-they-trade-down/305517448

 

This whole article is a nightmare. A minefield of "fck no" picks. 

Scott Thompson needs to check himself. 

[playtowinthegame]

Don't see D.K. Metcalf on the list. If we trade down I'd like to get Metcalf, then ship Robby Anderson to the Stillers or Iggles to acquire another 2nd rd pick to go with our 2nd rd pick we got from trading down. Two picks in rounds 2 and 3 ought to fill some holes. 

[genot]

1 minute ago, dbatesman said:

I don’t know anything about his attitude and I don’t care what conference he played in.

Lol. Your not drafting him. This guy has been wrecking offenses alot longer than Williams. talk for two years or more about him being the best player in college football. Might not be a top ten pick. I don't really know why. These GM's do.

[Beerfish]

I want to trade down.

I would HATE any of those players.

[johnnysd]

I think the premise that we will "likely looking for a defensive player" statement to be absurd. We MAY choose defense if "forced" to by our board but we do not have Bowles or a defensive coach running the ship, we have an offensive head coach, AND I just cannot believe that the FO will not be aware of what happened when Indy did not protect Luck well enough . If anything the Jets are likely "looking for an offensive player" but according to all the so called experts none are available with enough value at 3. The Jets have far from hidden that they want to trade down, and if they did I would not be surprised if they drafted LT and C as first two picks, like we did with some success before. It is not McCagnans preferred way, but I believe Bowles had as big of a voice on high picks as Mac and I suspect that is somewhat true now with Gase.

[johnnysd]

23 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

lol....

Not one f'ing offensive player. 

Drafting Sam Darnold will end up being the saddest thing this franchise would have ever done. We're literally going to draft a high potential QB, then squeeze him dry by putting the entire franchise on his back and provide him with nothing but big name defensive draft guys who will end up being mediocre or bust potential (with 1 pro bowler every 4-5 years) and providing Darnold with developmental offensive skillset players in the 3rd round and offensive linemen in the 4th or 5th round. 

Same thing we did with Sanchez and Smith.  Philosophy is the exact same. BUT, Nick Bosa is there, we gotta get him, just like we had to get Leo Williams, just like we had to get Darron Lee, just like we had to get Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye, just like we had to get Pryor, just like we had to get Dee Milliner, just like we had to get Sheldon Richardson, just like we had to get Quinton Coples, just like we had to get Mo Wilkerson, just like we had to get Kyle Wilson. 

And like every year, what's the #1 thing folks say that they're saying now? "This defensive guy is different". 

 

You know when this entire franchise changed and became winners? When they took two offensive linemen in the 1st round. 

That genius move did more for this team than any other defensive moves we made. Why? Because we were able to maximize the potential of whatever QB we had at the helm and we established a top 3-10 rushing attack. 

 

Stupid continuous moves like this literally decade after decade is why this franchise is losing respect by their own fans. 

100% perfect post. Post of the week candidate right here, truer more accurate words have never been said. 

[dbatesman]

3 minutes ago, genot said:

Lol. Your not drafting him. This guy has been wrecking offenses alot longer than Williams. talk for two years or more about him being the best player in college football. Might not be a top ten pick. I don't really know why. These GM's do.

Or maybe they’re all morons. Just spitballing

[nico002]

If we trade down we are taking Offense

[#27TheDominator]

5 hours ago, dbatesman said:

Or maybe they’re all morons. Just spitballing

When I was hired there I was told that we were going to be a stunting defensive line. So in my mind I needed to find guys that stunt well, and to my evaluations of guys that stunted well was [Grady Jarrett] from Clemson, that the Falcons took [in the fifth round]. There’s a reason why I’m saying his name specifically. We get into a pre-draft discussion, and we’re talking about defensive ends’ arm length. And I’m semi-mad because a scout is telling me ... this guy’s trying to tell me that the defensive linemen need long arms like the offensive linemen, or they’ll never be able to beat them—the offensive lineman’s just going to hold them off. And I said, ‘Well, with all due respect, I don’t know what defensive line coaches that you’ve worked with have told you beforehand, but I teach from the ground to the man’s chest. And the guy can bring their hands from the ground to the chest the fastest are going to win the battle.’ That’s how I teach: We’re going to attack him, and offensive linemen are allowing us to do this now, because of where the game is going—they don’t get down in a stance no more, so they automatically are up, especially the offensive tackles. And he laughed at me, like, ‘He don’t know about arm length?’ And I lit off into them and everybody was, like, ‘Pep, why you do him like that?’ And, like, hey, the guy wants to smirk at me and act like he knows more about football than I do!

https://deadspin.com/q-a-pepper-johnson-on-drinking-with-bill-belichick-sp-1828726414

Ed Oliver has 31 3/4 arms 

[JiF]

50 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

I'm doing the calculations piecemeal, but so far Oliver and Gary are the only guys I've found who hit Waldo's Explosive Power number. Since we all know Maccagnan has neither the brains nor the balls to take Oliver at 3, trading down and getting Gary in the teens is probably our best bet.

Oliver I now get why he didnt put up the numbers in college but what's Gary's excuse?  That's hard pill to swallow just simply going off testing.  The dude was terrible in college. 

[Jetfan13]

If they trade down with the Dolphins and let them get their QB of the future, HEADS SHOULD ROLL IN OUR FO.

[choon328]

54 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

lol....

Not one f'ing offensive player!!!!!!

Drafting Sam Darnold will end up being the saddest thing this franchise would have ever done. We're literally going to draft a high potential QB, then squeeze him dry by putting the entire franchise on his back and provide him with nothing but big name defensive draft guys who will end up being mediocre or bust potential (with 1 pro bowler every 4-5 years) and providing Darnold with developmental offensive skillset players in the 3rd round and offensive linemen in the 4th or 5th round. 

Same thing we did with Sanchez and Smith.  Philosophy is the exact same. BUT, Nick Bosa is there, we gotta get him, just like we had to get Leo Williams, just like we had to get Darron Lee, just like we had to get Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye, just like we had to get Pryor, just like we had to get Dee Milliner, just like we had to get Sheldon Richardson, just like we had to get Quinton Coples, just like we had to get Mo Wilkerson, just like we had to get Kyle Wilson. 

And like every year, what's the #1 thing folks say that they're saying now? "This defensive guy is different". haha...sure he is. He's going to do wonders for our new QB. Protecting him and being a target all while rushing the QB and scoring touchdowns etc., etc. 

 

You know when this entire franchise changed and became winners? When they took two offensive linemen in the 1st round. 

That genius move did more for this team than any other defensive moves we made. Why? Because we were able to maximize the potential of whatever QB we had at the helm and we established a top 3-10 rushing attack. 

 

Stupid continuous moves like this literally decade after decade is why this franchise is losing respect by their own fans. 

It's funny bc year after year there is so much bitching and complaining about how the Jets take defensive players in the first round. Yet here we are again and the majority of this board is already rationalizing/defending taking another defensive player in the 1st round. The Jets have brain ****ed you all into being ok with this once again.

[JiF]

42 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

lol....

Not one f'ing offensive player!!!!!!

Drafting Sam Darnold will end up being the saddest thing this franchise would have ever done. We're literally going to draft a high potential QB, then squeeze him dry by putting the entire franchise on his back and provide him with nothing but big name defensive draft guys who will end up being mediocre or bust potential (with 1 pro bowler every 4-5 years) and providing Darnold with developmental offensive skillset players in the 3rd round and offensive linemen in the 4th or 5th round. 

Same thing we did with Sanchez and Smith.  Philosophy is the exact same. BUT, Nick Bosa is there, we gotta get him, just like we had to get Leo Williams, just like we had to get Darron Lee, just like we had to get Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye, just like we had to get Pryor, just like we had to get Dee Milliner, just like we had to get Sheldon Richardson, just like we had to get Quinton Coples, just like we had to get Mo Wilkerson, just like we had to get Kyle Wilson. 

And like every year, what's the #1 thing folks say that they're saying now? "This defensive guy is different". haha...sure he is. He's going to do wonders for our new QB. Protecting him and being a target all while rushing the QB and scoring touchdowns etc., etc. 

 

You know when this entire franchise changed and became winners? When they took two offensive linemen in the 1st round. 

That genius move did more for this team than any other defensive moves we made. Why? Because we were able to maximize the potential of whatever QB we had at the helm and we established a top 3-10 rushing attack. 

 

Stupid continuous moves like this literally decade after decade is why this franchise is losing respect by their own fans. 

You realize this is just some hypothetical piece, right?  

[Villain The Foe]

24 minutes ago, JiF said:

You realize this is just some hypothetical piece, right?  

It's not just hypothetical. Folks who follow the Jets closely recognize their tendencies. This is why we can have a hypothetical scenario like this and see nothing but defensive players. 

Why? Because if it's not a QB, 99.9% of the time we've picked defensive players. 

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, stugotz81 said:

 

 

Giants (No. 6 overall): DE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

Broncos (No. 10 overall): LB Devin White, LSU

Dolphins - No. 13 overall: DE Rashan Gary

Redskins - No. 15 overall: CB Greedy Williams, LSU

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All Four Defense?  Give me a break. 

[King P]

I'm ok with defense, but none of those names

[Beerfish]

59 minutes ago, Jetfan13 said:

If they trade down with the Dolphins and let them get their QB of the future, HEADS SHOULD ROLL IN OUR FO.

So if we traded down with a rival and their QB of the future is blaine gabbert of blake bortles and we get a haul of picks that is bad?

[jetspenguin]

48 minutes ago, choon328 said:

It's funny bc year after year there is so much bitching and complaining about how the Jets take defensive players in the first round. Yet here we are again and the majority of this board is already rationalizing/defending taking another defensive player in the 1st round. The Jets have brain ****ed you all into being ok with this once again.

lol its hilarious because the idiot who wrote this article has ZERO to do with the Jets front office and has no affiliation with them whatsoever. He is just randomly speculating and stirring the pot so fans can get all worked up over nothing. We have an offensive HC now, from the owner on down they have done nothing but make it clear they want to support Sam and change the identity of the franchise. They are even changing the damn uniforms, paid out huge money for the RB of the decade and if they trade down people here STILL think they wont even consider an offensive player? lol Cmon man...I know we have a sh*tty history but they are doing everything possible to change it right before your eyes and people still refuse to admit it because its more comfortable to bitccch and moan about what we used to do under the 47 previous defensive coaches we had. 

[Jetsplayer21]

Amazing, not one offensive option, weakest link OL,  as usual 🤣

[UntouchableCrew]

ME: Seems weird to include Devin White on that list, given that we just paid CJ Mosley and Avery Williamson in back to back off-seasons. ILB has to be the only position we definitely don't draft.

BIG MAC: 

[slats]

1 hour ago, Jetfan13 said:

If they trade down with the Dolphins and let them get their QB of the future, HEADS SHOULD ROLL IN OUR FO.

I really don’t see the Jets trading with the fish or the jints. 

And yeah, once the Jets are out of the top three they’re definitely looking at the offensive side of the ball. The only reason we keep hearing defense now is that there isn’t a non-QB on offense worth taking top three right now. 

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

Oliver I now get why he didnt put up the numbers in college but what's Gary's excuse?  That's hard pill to swallow just simply going off testing.  The dude was terrible in college. 

Beats me. I can't pretend to know anything about him. But the numbers tend to be highly reliable, and they say he's worth it in the first.

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

When I was hired there I was told that we were going to be a stunting defensive line. So in my mind I needed to find guys that stunt well, and to my evaluations of guys that stunted well was [Grady Jarrett] from Clemson, that the Falcons took [in the fifth round]. There’s a reason why I’m saying his name specifically. We get into a pre-draft discussion, and we’re talking about defensive ends’ arm length. And I’m semi-mad because a scout is telling me ... this guy’s trying to tell me that the defensive linemen need long arms like the offensive linemen, or they’ll never be able to beat them—the offensive lineman’s just going to hold them off. And I said, ‘Well, with all due respect, I don’t know what defensive line coaches that you’ve worked with have told you beforehand, but I teach from the ground to the man’s chest. And the guy can bring their hands from the ground to the chest the fastest are going to win the battle.’ That’s how I teach: We’re going to attack him, and offensive linemen are allowing us to do this now, because of where the game is going—they don’t get down in a stance no more, so they automatically are up, especially the offensive tackles. And he laughed at me, like, ‘He don’t know about arm length?’ And I lit off into them and everybody was, like, ‘Pep, why you do him like that?’ And, like, hey, the guy wants to smirk at me and act like he knows more about football than I do!

Ed Oliver has 31 3/4 arms 

This carries as much weight with me as the conference he played in. And learn to use the hyperlink function dude, ffs

[JiF]

38 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

It's not just hypothetical. Folks who follow the Jets closely recognize their tendencies. This is why we can have a hypothetical scenario like this and see nothing but defensive players. 

Why? Because if it's not a QB, 99.9% of the time we've picked defensive players. 

Folks who follow the Jets closely, know they never pull off trade downs.