stugotz81 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Oh yeaaah!! Kentucky's Josh Allen to visit Jets next week By: Sam Neumann | 8 hours ago Josh Allen will visit the Jets next week, according to ESPN’s Rich Cimini. Allen, who will likely be a top three pick in next month’s draft, stuck with his combine testing results and just weighed/measured in on Friday at his pro day. Notably not in attendance was Mike Maccagnan, but that was probably because Allen is sticking with his combine results and meeting with the Jets in Florham Park next week. With the Jets in desperate need of a pass-rusher, Allen presents himself as one of the best available options in Gregg Williams’ defense. New York is sticking to a 3-4 scheme for now and Allen is capable of putting his hand in the dirt or bull-rushing off the edge. Allen fills a hole on the Jets roster that has not been correctly addressed for over 10 years now. From Eric Mangini to Adam Gase, the position has been a persistent issue. Taking Allen can change that. Allen is being talked up as the second-best edge rusher in this class. He had 17 sacks and five forced fumbles for Kentucky this past season and totaled 31.5 for his career with the Wildcats. Unless Nick Bosa slips past San Francisco at No. 2, Allen presents himself as the Jets’ best chance at addressing their pass-rushing issue. Allen’s motor and explosiveness are off the charts; his numbers at Kentucky speak for themselves after facing NFL caliber tackles in the SEC. Next week’s visit may be a trial run for the real thing. If Allen hits it off with the Jets’ contingency, there is a very real possibility that they take him at No. 3 instead of trading back. https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/23/kentucky-josh-allen-visit-jets-2019-nfl-draft/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Good. I hope everyone has a nice time . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 As soon as we decide we want him the 49ers will take him at #2 so lets not get our hopes up quite yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Hopefully this helps them decide to trade down. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 This is the guy we need to draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The more film I see of William's, Bosa, and Allen, the more I am convinced Willaims is the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Trade down! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: The more film I see of William's, Bosa, and Allen, the more I am convinced Willaims is the guy. Oh joy! Another DT. SMH. 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Can't wait until Josh Allen sacks Josh Allen multiple times a year in the afc east. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Trade down! Do you trust our GM's ability to draft outside the first round? I don't. Bosa, Allen, and Williams in all likelihood will be pro bowl players. They are game changers. Pick one and be done with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: Do you trust our GM's ability to draft outside the first round? I don't. Bosa, Allen, and Williams in all likelihood will be pro bowl players. They are game changers. Pick one and be done with it. Preachhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don’t understand the obsession with trading down when it’s almost a lock that 1 of the top 2 edge rushers is going to be there at 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I don't know what to make of this guy. I watch his highlights and it looks like he gets a lot of sacks without even being blocked. So it's a lot of "easy" sacks that pad the numbers. The thing is, sometimes the elite guys make those easy sacks look easy because they're so good. He does have a quick first step and long stride to the outside that he seems to get around OTs pretty easily with. I can see NFL OT's adjusting to that pretty quickly if he doesn't develop a strong counter move inside. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: I don't know what to make of this guy. I watch his highlights and it looks like he gets a lot of sacks without even being blocked. So it's a lot of "easy" sacks that pad the numbers. The thing is, sometimes the elite guys make those easy sacks look easy because they're so good. He does have a quick first step and long stride to the outside that he seems to get around OTs pretty easily with. I can see NFL OT's adjusting to that pretty quickly if he doesn't develop a strong counter move inside. There was a sack when he went low to go under the grasp of an OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, SR24 said: Preachhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don’t understand the obsession with trading down when it’s almost a lock that 1 of the top 2 edge rushers is going to be there at 3 Well the obsession is that they get a #1 pick back next year, so they would have 2 1's next year. Plus this draft is pretty eep efensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Bring em' in!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Oh joy! Another DT. SMH. 🤦🏻♂️ We don't have a guy like this. He sheds blocks like they aren't even in his way, he sacks QB'S with one arm and throws them to the ground. He blocks passes and makes tackles from behind. For a guy of his size, he gets to the QB incredibly fast. Who on the Jets can do any of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wonderboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: We don't have a guy like this. He sheds blocks like they aren't even in his way, he sacks QB'S with one arm and throws them to the ground. He blocks passes and makes tackles from behind. For a guy of his size, he gets to the QB incredibly fast. Who on the Jets can do any of that. Darron Lee LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 One thing I noticed about Josh Allen is he gets from here...to there like lightning. I watched him play 1 game just because I don't watch college ball & wanted to see what the hype was about. He caused a false start, had 3 sacks, CHASED DOWN ball carriers & ran with a TE with ease! This dude looks like he's really versatile & tackled very well, when he got a hold of you, you were going down. Guys this big, fast, with this kind of speed and strength don't come along every draft. Unlike Gholston, this guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. I would not be surprised if Allen came off the board at #2, he's got zero injury history either. 17 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, in the SEC? That's production at a high level! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetster said: One thing I noticed about Josh Allen is he gets from here...to there like lightning. I watched him play 1 game just because I don't watch college ball & wanted to see what the hype was about. He caused a false start, had 3 sacks, CHASED DOWN ball carriers & ran with a TE with ease! This dude looks like he's really versatile & tackled very well, when he got a hold of you, you were going down. Guys this big, fast, with this kind of speed and strength don't come along every draft. Unlike Gholston, this guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. I would not be surprised if Allen came off the board at #2, he's got zero injury history either. 17 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, in the SEC? That's production at a high level! He seems to be less of a pass rusher exclusively and more of an all around player. Which is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The Jets did the following surprising things: Announced that they are sticking with a 3-4 defense. Signed a pure 3-4 ILB for big money. Overpaid a good 3-4 DE. Other than Anthony Barr, were not really active in the 3-4 EDGE market (and that was reaching back to his college years 5 years ago-I think the Jets got lucky here). All this to me points to the Jets planning on taking Allen with the 3rd pick in the draft. They probably should have been more aggressive with signing OL if they knew they were doing that, but if the Jets get a long term EDGE that is good for the team, in 2020. They will need to hope for at least a good C to be around in rd 3, and that the Ts are healthy, for 2019 to be truly competitive. I understand that for a team still building for really 2020-2021, paying big money for Morse or Paradis was stretching it. I would have rolled the dice on Paradis, but he did not want to be in New Jersey. I have friends in Paramus who have bear in their yard, so I don’t get the New Jersey is not country thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, varjet said: The Jets did the following surprising things: Announced that they are sticking with a 3-4 defense. Signed a pure 3-4 ILB for big money. Overpaid a good 3-4 DE. Other than Anthony Barr, were not really active in the 3-4 EDGE market (and that was reaching back to his college years 5 years ago-I think the Jets got lucky here). All this to me points to the Jets planning on taking Allen with the 3rd pick in the draft. I think this too unless they are blown away by an offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 MAKE HIM DO THE VERT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jetster said: One thing I noticed about Josh Allen is he gets from here...to there like lightning. I watched him play 1 game just because I don't watch college ball & wanted to see what the hype was about. He caused a false start, had 3 sacks, CHASED DOWN ball carriers & ran with a TE with ease! This dude looks like he's really versatile & tackled very well, when he got a hold of you, you were going down. Guys this big, fast, with this kind of speed and strength don't come along every draft. Unlike Gholston, this guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. I would not be surprised if Allen came off the board at #2, he's got zero injury history either. 17 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, in the SEC? That's production at a high level! Yet some would argue that he's not a great athlete. If you saw him play, the one thing that jumps out is his athleticism -- burst, quickness, bend -- physical hallmarks of an elite pass rusher. What he seems to be lacking is instinctive ability to read the play and react -- that could be a problem at the pro level. Bosa is great at the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Jetster said: One thing I noticed about Josh Allen is he gets from here...to there like lightning. I watched him play 1 game just because I don't watch college ball & wanted to see what the hype was about. He caused a false start, had 3 sacks, CHASED DOWN ball carriers & ran with a TE with ease! This dude looks like he's really versatile & tackled very well, when he got a hold of you, you were going down. Guys this big, fast, with this kind of speed and strength don't come along every draft. Unlike Gholston, this guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. I would not be surprised if Allen came off the board at #2, he's got zero injury history either. 17 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, in the SEC? That's production at a high level! This kid is Jadeveon Clowney 2.0, maybe 3.0, without the waiting period or uneven performance. He will be a better pro than Clowney, mark it down. Whether or not that makes him the Jets pick, I don't know. What I do know is if they do indeed pick Josh Allen, I won't complain, and we won't be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: He seems to be less of a pass rusher exclusively and more of an all around player. Which is good. I think your right but you only need to look at the guy in charge up there in New England, he believes versatility is superior to anything else on defense. With Josh Allens skills, you have LBs consisting of Lee- Williamson- Mosley- Jenkins with Safeties like Adams & Maye, they replaced Skrine with Poole, this defense could be lights out when they jell under Greg Williams. We will find out how bad Kacey Rogers was very quickly in 2019. Williams is an aggressive Mo Fo, I see us being crazy aggressive when playing with leads, none of that prevent sh*t. A guy like Josh Allen dropping back into coverage once in a while, while we're blitzing LBs & Safeties is invaluable being able to run with a TE or RB trying to slip out on a short blitz route. Josh closing speed would negate those quick routes instantly with his quick first step afterward falling back could be a fun defense to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well the obsession is that they get a #1 pick back next year, so they would have 2 1's next year. Plus this draft is pretty eep efensively Right but why pass on elite level edge rusher when that’s been our biggest need for like a decade? I guess maybe it would make more sense if I had faith in our GM but apart from Herndon he hasn’t hit on anything solid from the #6 pick and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, SR24 said: Right but why pass on elite level edge rusher when that’s been our biggest need for like a decade? I guess maybe it would make more sense if I had faith in our GM but apart from Herndon he hasn’t hit on anything solid from the #6 pick and on QB was the biggest need for the last decade by far and it’s time to protect him and get him playmakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 hours ago, More Cowbell said: The more film I see of William's, Bosa, and Allen, the more I am convinced Willaims is the guy. I'm starting to think he won't even be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, SR24 said: Right but why pass on elite level edge rusher when that’s been our biggest need for like a decade? I guess maybe it would make more sense if I had faith in our GM but apart from Herndon he hasn’t hit on anything solid from the #6 pick and on Just because you think he's going to blow those picks doesn't mean the process should be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, freestater said: I'm starting to think he won't even be there I agree. Murray, Williams, "WITH THE 3rd pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the NY Jets select....Nick Bosa, Defensive End, Ohio State. Helluva consolation prize. Many, many draftnicks believe Nick has better bend than his brother Joey. If we don't move from #3, I'll be happy with any of Williams, Bosa, Allen. Great spot to be in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, long time suffering Jets f said: Do you trust our GM's ability to draft outside the first round? I don't. Bosa, Allen, and Williams in all likelihood will be pro bowl players. They are game changers. Pick one and be done with it. I do. We need more than a #3 pick to make this team a true contender. We can still buy a pass rusher in free agency. if he trades down say gets a 1st rd pick in the 10-15 range + a 2nd and say a 3rd, we can still get a good 1st day starter on the OLine, get a Center with the 2nd pick then find a possible deep threat WR with the 3rd. Done Super bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Regardless of the GM, doing the process the right way needs to be done. You cant be scared out collecting a bounty of picks just because you're afraid the GM's going to **** them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I don't know what to make of this guy. I watch his highlights and it looks like he gets a lot of sacks without even being blocked. So it's a lot of "easy" sacks that pad the numbers. The thing is, sometimes the elite guys make those easy sacks look easy because they're so good. He does have a quick first step and long stride to the outside that he seems to get around OTs pretty easily with. I can see NFL OT's adjusting to that pretty quickly if he doesn't develop a strong counter move inside.Yep. He may be a nice player but it’s highly unlikely that he will be the 15 sack a year guy. It’s more likely that he will disappoint. Even if he ends up being decent. NFL tackles will easily handle what he’s done in college. I see bust all over this fella. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 21 hours ago, Nixhead said: As soon as we decide we want him the 49ers will take him at #2 so lets not get our hopes up quite yet. I'm pretty sure John Lynch isn't basing his decision on what Mac would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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