Savage69 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Peace Frog said: Let me understand this. Are you suggesting Jamal Adams is not good? That he’s our strong safety version of....Mark Sanchez? Do you think Jamal Adams is a bad safety? Lower half of the league safety? Will never raise to the level of say a 2nd Team All Pro? Just how bad do you think he is? Calvin Pryor-like? And you’re dabbling in a bit I red herring there - I never said he was the best safety since Victor Greene, I said he is one of our best players NOW. Do you disagree with that? All-Pro Teams Jamal Adams Year Tm Level Voters 2018 1st Tm Pro Football Focus 2018 1st Tm Sporting News 2018 2nd Tm Associated Press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Jets defense as a whole gave up 47 catches for 547 yards and 5 tds to opposing TE’s last year . Which I believe puts them 3rd or 4th Best Defending against TE’s last season. Adams gave up zero of those TD’s FYI But were any of those TDs that he didn’t give up “memorable”? Stats without memorabilia doesn’t fit the narrative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: All-Pro Teams Jamal Adams Year Tm Level Voters 2018 1st Tm Pro Football Focus 2018 1st Tm Sporting News 2018 2nd Tm Associated Press Stop it! None of that was “memorable”! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Peace Frog said: Stop it! None of that was “memorable”! Micah Hyde was the second team all pro SS the year prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: You talk about remembering when TEs were killing us as if that was something that stopped with the addition of Jamal Adams. Only the really strong TE kill us now. The days of getting toasted by the likes of Tyler Higbee which happened all the time seem to be behind us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: Micah Hyde was the second team all pro SS the year prior. I don’t remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: Only the really strong TE kill us now. The days of getting toasted by the likes of Tyler Higbee which happened all the time seem to be behind us Strong TEs kill everyone. Is there a safety out there that stops Kelce? Folks are going to find reasons to complain about everything. Emily Ratsjkowski is too thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Only the really strong TE kill us now. The days of getting toasted by the likes of Tyler Higbee which happened all the time seem to be behind us I remember when we used to get killed by Ken Dilger and Jay Riemersma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Only the really strong TE kill us now. The days of getting toasted by the likes of Tyler Higbee which happened all the time seem to be behind us Beware of small sample sizes here. I'm old enough to remember the year before last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Strong TEs kill everyone. Is there a safety out there that stops Kelce? Folks are going to find reasons to complain about everything. Emily Ratsjkowski is too thin. It's also worth nothing that shorter posts with more extreme views are the ones that actually get acknowledged. So, the views look amplified. I think that's more it than people just want to complain about everything. I posted some thoughts in response to your Avery Williamson comment, for instance. A bit more thorough than most of the posts in this thread. It went completely ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: It's also worth nothing that shorter posts with more extreme views are the ones that actually get acknowledged. So, the views look amplified. I think that's more it than people just want to complain about everything. I posted some thoughts in response to your Avery Williamson comment, for instance. A bit more thorough than most of the posts in this thread. It went completely ignored. @Sperm Edwards doesn't agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 If this wasn't memorable, i don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dcat said: @Sperm Edwards doesn't agree. He can't help himself. But, he knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Its kind of weird we’re debating whether Adams was one of the better Jets last year and a bunch of us couch jockeys are suggesting not. What do the actual players think, the guys in the room that see him every day, practice, film room, game time. https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jamal-adams-named-jets-2018-curtis-martin-team-mvp Maybe they misremembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Its kind of weird we’re debating whether Adams was one of the better Jets last year and a bunch of us couch jockeys are suggesting not. What do the actual players think, the guys in the room that see him every day, practice, film room, game time. https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jamal-adams-named-jets-2018-curtis-martin-team-mvp Maybe they misremembered. We've posted video. I've posted articles how opposing teams are preparing to play the Jets, and their comments about Adams. I've posted comments from players and coaches at the pro Bowl, who explained why Adams is so damn good. It's a waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, TeddEY said: It's also worth nothing that shorter posts with more extreme views are the ones that actually get acknowledged. So, the views look amplified. I think that's more it than people just want to complain about everything. I posted some thoughts in response to your Avery Williamson comment, for instance. A bit more thorough than most of the posts in this thread. It went completely ignored. It was boring self serving clap trap trying to bolster an irrelevant analogy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Beware of small sample sizes here. I'm old enough to remember the year before last. Small sample sizes is all we have. He’s only been in the league 2 years for crissakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Hey!! Get a freaking grip! It's not like I'm selling babies on the black market! We haven't won absolutely anything and Jamal Adams has spearheaded absolutely nothing! He has barked, self-promoted and has concentrated very much so on his own brand. It's my opinion that he is a loudmouth who has done zero. If you're on his jock and you don't like what I have to say then go scratch! Is this guy your warrior hero or something? I simply asked what could we get for him if we traded him? I'd rather have a center a left tackle and a wide receiver then one pretty good strong safety. And unfortunately Marcus Maye hasn't been healthy. And sorry to say to any of you who are ready to jump off the cliff screaming whyyyyy!!!??? But I actually think Marcus Maye is a better player than Jamal Adams. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: Patrick Mahommes at one, and Jamal Adams in the 2nd, and then a 2018 1st, 2 seconds, and a 2019 second, and no I'm not wasting my Sunday on this topic. But, more to your point, if my wife didn't have my daughter at a birthday party, and my 4 week old son couldn't be brought along because he's too young to be vaccinated and we don't want him around 30-ish snotty 3-year-olds, so he's sleeping and I'm just hanging out watching the Master's, I'd also not be wasting my Sunday. Unfortunately, that's where life is at right now. Maybe give him a bath when he wakes up, and then head out for a walk or something. I got you, my actual point though was to make the point that a player can not live up to expectations of lofty draft status and still be a good player. Some folks dont seem to get that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: I don’t remember that. Tom is correct not bad for a 5th rd pick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 And to make another point I never said Jamal Adams stinks as a player. I said I don't like his schtick! He's a very good in the Box strong safety with pass rush skills that is terrible in coverage. To me he's No Superstar yet he seems to act like one. Would anybody take a pretty good player at a position of need and two picks? I may have been a little antagonistic cuz it's the slow time of year for us, but there's no reason for anybody to go jump off a bridge like I have blasphemed. I've been watching this team and following everything about it for decades. A lot of players come and go. Some I really think should have been Stars that we got rid of , and some I wonder why we kept so long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: It was boring self serving clap trap trying to bolster an irrelevant analogy. Never mind then. Thought you were capable of more thoughtful discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Its kind of weird we’re debating whether Adams was one of the better Jets last year and a bunch of us couch jockeys are suggesting not. You are literally the only person in this thread suggesting this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Hugh Douglas, Snacks Harrison, Jericho Cotchery, Brad Smith, Mohamed Sanu, Kareem McKenzie, Mr. Chadwick Pennington!? All very good impact players who were shown the door? And that's just off the top of my head. How many of their replacements or other players were forced down our throats when they were just goddamn terrible? And it was obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said: Mohamed Sanu NEVER a NY Jet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You are literally the only person in this thread suggesting this. Yup. He’s on this quixotic quest against the scores of non-existent posters making the argument that Jamal Adams is a bad football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Never mind then. Thought you were capable of more thoughtful discussion. I don’t feel like partaking I’m intellectually dishonest debate. Giving others some of the credit for what he does or denigrating some of what he does because of things out of his control or incidental to his play bores me. I sincerely apologize. I'm watching The Masters and quite frankly I don’t feel like taking the time to parse your analysis. I get it. You’re not an Adams fan. I think he’s going to be a main cog in helping us win a SB. And I don’t care that he’s a self promoter because he does it in a manner that is respectful to the team and us fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You are literally the only person in this thread suggesting this. I apologize for coming off like that. It just seems that folks taking shots at him are doing so because they don’t think he’s very good. Sorry for that. My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Yup. He’s on this quixotic quest against the scores of non-existent posters making the argument that Jamal Adams is a bad football player. Are you suggesting I’m tilting at windmills? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: I apologize for coming off like that. It just seems that folks taking shots at him are doing so because they don’t think he’s very good. Sorry for that. My bad. Summary of the general views of the “detractors”: 1) Yes, Jamal Adams is a good football player. 2) No, Jamal Adams was not a good draft pick, especially when we needed a QB. 3) The things Jamal Adams does well, are not significant contributors to winning in today’s NFL. Optional 4) Shut Up, Jamal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Summary of the general views of the “detractors”: 1) Yes, Jamal Adams is a good football player. 2) No, Jamal Adams was not a good draft pick, especially when we needed a QB. 3) The things Jamal Adams does well, are not significant contributors to winning in today’s NFL. Optional 4) Shut Up, Jamal. You and a few other nutjobs, are alone out om an island on this. Excuse the nutjob, comment. It's said in a friendly, non confrontational way. BUT REALLY. Can all these people be wrong. Do you even listen???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Summary of the general views of the “detractors”: 1) Yes, Jamal Adams is a good football player. 2) No, Jamal Adams was not a good draft pick, especially when we needed a QB. 3) The things Jamal Adams does well, are not significant contributors to winning in today’s NFL. Optional 4) Shut Up, Jamal. Still crying over a draft pick from 3 years ago . I think you should follow your own advice on Option 4.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Still crying over a draft pick from 3 years ago . I think you should follow your own advice on Option 4.. mz.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Still crying over a draft pick from 3 years ago . I think you should follow your own advice on Option 4.. Aye. Ye olde ancient olden days of yore, yon NFL Drafte, year of our Lord Two Thousand unt Seventeen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, genot said: You and a few other nutjobs, are alone out om an island on this. Excuse the nutjob, comment. It's said in a friendly, non confrontational way. BUT REALLY. Can all these people be wrong. Do you even listen???? Guy who says Macc has done a good job shouldn’t throw “nutjob” around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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