HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m sure you’re gorgeous now and I’d still do the flowers and the Shakespeare and all of it for you, but then you’d say some whack sh*t about how great Jamal Adams is and I’d have to call you an Uber because nuh uh girlfriend No Thomas, my opinion of Jamal is not whack..you’re acting like a petulant, spoiled little girl, a mean girl - regarding that adorable young Mr. Adams. Appreciate the stars on this team, Thomas....ain’t too many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: More like the people who understand the draft realize you need the athletic metrics on pass rushers before evaluating which one is a safer bet to succeed. Ok buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Two Centers in the Top 31 spells trouble for the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Two Centers in the Top 31 spells trouble for the Jets. I've been saying this for a while. The top 5 Centers will all be gone by the end of Round 2. Mostly bc almost all of them have position flexibility so teams who have a need at Guard will look at them as well. The Jets need, at the latest, a mid 2nd round pick if they want one of those guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 hours ago, WayneChrebet80 said: Only posting it because he’s pretty credible as NFL networks replacement for Mayock. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001026563/article/daniel-jeremiah-2019-nfl-mock-draft-30-drew-lock-to-packers%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Dpath-to-the-draft&p.ct=Path%2bto%2bthe%2bDraft&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523000&p.bgc1m=%2523EAEAEA&sr=amp Imagine Rodgers reaction if the Packers took Lock in round 1 I appreciate the fact that DK Metcalf fell out of the 1st round in this draft. Dude has become overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, choon328 said: I've been saying this for a while. The top 5 Centers will all be gone by the end of Round 2. Mostly bc almost all of them have position flexibility so teams who have a need at Guard will look at them as well. The Jets need, at the latest, a mid 2nd round pick if they want one of those guys. Maybe Ed Oliver can play Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 10 hours ago, greenwave81 said: Whatever Dude...ignore me. I will say however that in the past 9 yrs, the NYJ have had 26 picks in the first 3 rds of the NFL draft...and the picks on the Offensive side of the ball in those yrs totaled exactly 9 picks ..or 1/3, including only ONE 1st rd pick on O which was last year. 9 of the 10 1st round picks we have had in the past 9 yrs were on D. Let's definitely keep it up, we're bound to succeed eventually. That’s pathetic. Defense is my favorite side of the ball, every one of my heroes are defensive players....but not at the expense of offensive playmakers. Their purpose (defense) is to give the ball back to the offense so they can score points and win games- a dynamic offense with a well coached Oline you keep building on year after year. Balance is a beautiful thing on that field, how can you value the QB position yet do nothing for years to help any of them succeed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 this is flat out nuts. unless they trade back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 we did not hear much about Oliver until the Scouting Combine - usually not a good measure of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: we did not hear much about Oliver until the Scouting Combine - usually not a good measure of success I don't know about that. Wasn't he considered the #1 pick by many different guys until mid point of the season ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 all this talk about 3-4 and 4-3, for most teams the nickel is the base and whoever they draft with the 3rd overall pick will have his hand in the dirt on 3rd and long, regardless of scheme put it another way this pick at 3 should be scheme diverse, so good the defensive coordinator makes a look just for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, bitonti said: all this talk about 3-4 and 4-3, for most teams the nickel is the base and whoever they draft with the 3rd overall pick will have his hand in the dirt on 3rd and long, regardless of scheme put it another way this pick at 3 should be scheme diverse, so good the defensive coordinator makes a look just for him Absolutely......should thrive in any scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I have no problem with Bosa, Williams, Allen or Oliver at 3. Any can easily be justified. There is no hard fast argument of one over the other, no mock that has one of these at 3 should be ridiculed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 13 hours ago, RobR said: Don't ever compare the two. Nkemdiche had bust written all over him before he was drafted. He was a 5 star recruit that was a total dog with no motor, and he said he coasted and took plays off in college. Didn't he get high and fall out a 2nd story window before the Sugar Bowl? 13 hours ago, RobR said: Oliver has always been better and I've been saying it for THREE YEARS. I hope when you said "You all" I wasn't whom you had in mind. Oliver is a generational talent, everyone else in this draft isn't. It's the only reason I'm pining for a defensive player in the first round. Yeah, I sure wasn't pounding the drum for Williams all this time. the NFL.com blurb on him compares him to Michael Dean Perry and my first thought was that it was insulting. To put that in perspective, Michael Dean Perry was a 6 time pro-bowl, 2-time all-pro that McDonalds named a burger after. 2 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: we did not hear much about Oliver until the Scouting Combine - usually not a good measure of success You must not listen very hard. I think any credible mock that didn't have Oliver in the top 10 for the past couple of years only did so thinking he wouldn't be in that year's draft class. The only things he did at the combine were lift and jump. Maybe you heard he did great in the interviews? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said: No Thomas, my opinion of Jamal is not whack..you’re acting like a petulant, spoiled little girl, a mean girl On Wednesdays we wear pink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 9 hours ago, bitonti said: all this talk about 3-4 and 4-3, for most teams the nickel is the base and whoever they draft with the 3rd overall pick will have his hand in the dirt on 3rd and long, regardless of scheme put it another way this pick at 3 should be scheme diverse, so good the defensive coordinator makes a look just for him Exactly. This has been true for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: we did not hear much about Oliver until the Scouting Combine - usually not a good measure of success We? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 9 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Didn't he get high and fall out a 2nd story window before the Sugar Bowl? Let he amongst us who hasn’t cast the first stooooone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Let he amongst us who hasn’t cast the first stooooone I never win at I Never either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 23 hours ago, greenwave81 said: Please...he plays in the AAC. Here's Houston's list of opponents from last year: 9/1/2018Rice 9/8/2018Arizona 9/15/2018Texas Tech 9/22/2018Texas Southern 10/4/2018Tulsa 10/13/2018ECU 10/20/2018Navy 10/27/2018USF 11/3/2018SMU 11/10/2018Temple 11/15/2018Tulane 11/23/2018Memphis Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl 12/22/2018Army Oliver may be good...but it's no sure thing. Who cares where a player played at, or what conference they played in. If you can play, you can play. See Pj Hall the DT the Raiders took out of Sam Houston State with their second round pick. It took him a 1/4 of the season to get up to speed to the competition but second half he was the best DT against the run. M Hurst put up the better Stats than Hall, but the reason was teams were double teaming him ( so fast and powerful) that left M Hurst single blocked. Pj Hall game is Geno Atkins 6'1 310 4.73 forty, bench Press 36 Vj 38' . Point being you can play at big college where you were a superstar, and bust in the Nfl too. You have the athletic ability to compete it really doesn't matter where you played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I never win at I Never either. It’s a game explicitly designed to discriminate against shut-ins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It’s a game explicitly designed to discriminate against shut-ins I feel like being a shut-in would at least have drastically reduced, if not all the way to zero, my odds of drinking on the Nkemdiche round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 7:25 PM, Miss Lonelyhearts said: We? LOL - I guess it was just me not paying much attention to the top DL's in this draft, did not want the Jets to draft another DL after taking 4 in the last 8 years with minimal success but looks like that's what they are going to do, seemed like Oliver to the Jets got hot all of a sudden but thank for pointing out that it could be a good pick, happy to be wrong if he has been forecast as high pick the entire time Also thanks to section314 and #27dom for providing more detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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