CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3. New York Jets Jets get: 1-14, 3-79, 2020 first-round pick, DE Vic Beasley Jr. Falcons get: 1-3, 4-105, 2020 conditional pick The Falcons badly need to add an impact pass-rusher. They also need to conserve cap space as they attempt to extend Grady Jarrett and Julio Jones this offseason, which makes Beasley's $12.8 million fifth-year option unappealing. We know the Falcons have gone all-in for a potential superstar in the past when they traded a future first-round pick to move up from No. 27 to No. 6 in 2011 to draft Jones. That move worked out, and if the Falcons see a similarly impressive star in Nick Bosa or Josh Allen, it's not crazy to think that they would make the same sort of move to grab the edge rusher their defense desperately needs. It's a tougher sell for the Jets, who also need an edge rusher after Anthony Barr left them at the altar in free agency. In a deep class, though, they would still have a great shot at adding someone like Rashan Gary or Brian Burns with the 14th pick, so if they don't see whoever is left at No. 3 as a star, moving down would make sense. This franchise badly needs extra picks after trading three second-rounders as part of the Sam Darnold trade. They also take a flier on Beasley, who led the NFL with 15.5 sacks in his second season, but has just 14 sacks combined in his other three campaigns. The conditional pick here gives the Falcons a fifth-rounder in 2020 if Beasley hits six sacks and a third-rounder if he makes it to 10 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 For your reading pleasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Who wrote this nonsense, Stephen A? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 11. Cincinnati Bengals Bengals get: WR Robby Anderson, ILB Darron Lee, 1-3 Jets get: WR A.J. Green, 1-11, 4-110 I'd like to believe the Bengals will eventually come to terms with their star receiver as Green enters the final year of the four-year, $60 million extension he signed in September of 2015. After Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown were traded this offseason, though, it seems naive to rule out anything. If the Bengals don't think they're a Super Bowl team with their current core -- and it's hard to argue that they are -- this would be a chance to reshape their roster with one trade. This trade only makes sense if Kyler Murray is still on the board at No. 3, which would position the Bengals to come away with their quarterback of the future to develop under new Bengals coach Zac Taylor. Losing Green would obviously cost Murray his would-be top receiver, but the Bengals would still have a young wideout core with both a track record of production and future upside in Anderson and Tyler Boyd, both of whom are 25 or younger. They would also get an inside linebacker in Lee, a former first-round pick who doesn't have a spot in the Jets' starting lineup after the C.J. Mosley signing but showed promise last season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 Vic Beasley is a terrible Football player. Terrible. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, section314 said: Who wrote this nonsense, Stephen A? Bill Barnwell....And who cares? Its just for fun to think about possibilities 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: 3. New York Jets Jets get: 1-14, 3-79, 2020 first-round pick, DE Vic Beasley Jr. Falcons get: 1-3, 4-105, 2020 conditional pick The Falcons badly need to add an impact pass-rusher. They also need to conserve cap space as they attempt to extend Grady Jarrett and Julio Jones this offseason, which makes Beasley's $12.8 million fifth-year option unappealing. We know the Falcons have gone all-in for a potential superstar in the past when they traded a future first-round pick to move up from No. 27 to No. 6 in 2011 to draft Jones. That move worked out, and if the Falcons see a similarly impressive star in Nick Bosa or Josh Allen, it's not crazy to think that they would make the same sort of move to grab the edge rusher their defense desperately needs. It's a tougher sell for the Jets, who also need an edge rusher after Anthony Barr left them at the altar in free agency. In a deep class, though, they would still have a great shot at adding someone like Rashan Gary or Brian Burns with the 14th pick, so if they don't see whoever is left at No. 3 as a star, moving down would make sense. This franchise badly needs extra picks after trading three second-rounders as part of the Sam Darnold trade. They also take a flier on Beasley, who led the NFL with 15.5 sacks in his second season, but has just 14 sacks combined in his other three campaigns. The conditional pick here gives the Falcons a fifth-rounder in 2020 if Beasley hits six sacks and a third-rounder if he makes it to 10 sacks. Yet we do not gain any extra picks with this scenario. Do people even think before they type? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Vic Beasley is a terrible Football player. Terrible. You are taking a flyer on him, but getting an extra 3rd AND a first next year to move down 11 spots Bengals one is interesting, but also might need a BIT more from them since they are getting two 'starters'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, chrisfaceoff said: Yet we do not gain any extra picks with this scenario. Do people even think before they type? So, we get better picks, but you are complaining that there are not MORE of them? GOT IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: 11. Cincinnati Bengals Bengals get: WR Robby Anderson, ILB Darron Lee, 1-3 Jets get: WR A.J. Green, 1-11, 4-110 I'd like to believe the Bengals will eventually come to terms with their star receiver as Green enters the final year of the four-year, $60 million extension he signed in September of 2015. After Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown were traded this offseason, though, it seems naive to rule out anything. If the Bengals don't think they're a Super Bowl team with their current core -- and it's hard to argue that they are -- this would be a chance to reshape their roster with one trade. This trade only makes sense if Kyler Murray is still on the board at No. 3, which would position the Bengals to come away with their quarterback of the future to develop under new Bengals coach Zac Taylor. Losing Green would obviously cost Murray his would-be top receiver, but the Bengals would still have a young wideout core with both a track record of production and future upside in Anderson and Tyler Boyd, both of whom are 25 or younger. They would also get an inside linebacker in Lee, a former first-round pick who doesn't have a spot in the Jets' starting lineup after the C.J. Mosley signing but showed promise last season. Not sure how I feel about this. I'd love Green in addition to Robby. Not sure how I feel about swapping the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, chrisfaceoff said: Yet we do not gain any extra picks with this scenario. Do people even think before they type? They get a 3rd rounder and a 2020 1st rounder in this scenario. Do you read before you type? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: You are taking a flyer on him, but getting an extra 3rd AND a first next year to move down 11 spots Bengals one is interesting, but also might need a BIT more from them since they are getting two 'starters'. That's true...pretty good value when you include next years 1st. Dont like the AJ Green trade scenario, not enough value in return for 2 starters. Also dont love the idea of trading Anderson a young WR coming into his prime for an older WR that is having a hard time staying healthy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. Would love to see that. But I don't think the Giants will have the guts to trade with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: You are taking a flyer on him, but getting an extra 3rd AND a first next year to move down 11 spots Bengals one is interesting, but also might need a BIT more from them since they are getting two 'starters'. I wouldn't do the Bengals one. I like Anderson and would rather just pick a #1 WR next year in the draft. AJ Green's contract is gonna be tough to add to all of the others. We need to have a less expensive tier of of quality players. Can't have all big name expensive guys. The Falcons trade is interesting, but still slim. Beasley is not very good. Potential is still there I suppose, but I don't like him very much. Their 1st, 2nd, beasley and next years first would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, JiF said: Vic Beasley is a terrible Football player. Terrible. I’d do it for the 2020 first rounder so the new GM can start Rebuild 7b 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. I would do this without hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: So, we get better picks, but you are complaining that there are not MORE of them? GOT IT. Any trade the Jets make involving the #3 pick needs to include a 2nd round pick this year bc of the needs of the team and the depth in the 2nd round. Without that, a trade shouldn't be made. Beasley is irrelevant in this trade bc he's on his last year of his deal, expensive and hasn't been productive in years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. Montez Sweat Garrett Bradbury Sounds good to me! Come back in Round 3 for any combination of CB, WR, OT, fat NT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, ElBarrioJets said: They get a 3rd rounder and a 2020 1st rounder in this scenario. Do you read before you type? and we're giving them a 4th and a conditional in 2020 that could be a 5th or a 3rd depending on sacks. The number of picks are then a wash. Are they better picks? Absolutely, but if someone is saying we need to accumulate more picks, with that logic we aren't gaining quantity, but hopefully quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, JiF said: That's true...pretty good value when you include next years 1st. Dont like the AJ Green trade scenario, not enough value in return for 2 starters. Also dont love the idea of trading Anderson a young WR coming into his prime for an older WR that is having a hard time staying healthy. I think the Bengal trade, while interesting, would have to include another starter (OL), or it would have to include more picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. I like it too, but I am afraid that won't happen. IF it did, I would look at Montez Sweat at 6, and then depending on how the board looks, trade down from 17. You might STILL be able to get one of the top centers in the late part of round one, and regain a 2nd round pick as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. You wouldn't take the Giants 6th, second and third this year? I definitely would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said: You wouldn't take the Giants 6th, second and third this year? I definitely would I might....that's an early 2nd and could still land a Center there. Probably missing out on Bradbury but could have a choice between Jenkins and McCoy.....plus that early 3rd you mentioned. The more I think about it the more I like it. Edge - Montez Sweat, C - Elgton Jenkins + 3 Picks in Round 3 would be a very, very nice opportunity to improve this team. CB, WR, OT in that 3rd would appear to be a home run type of Draft (on paper). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: 11. Cincinnati Bengals Bengals get: WR Robby Anderson, ILB Darron Lee, 1-3 Jets get: WR A.J. Green, 1-11, 4-110 I'd like to believe the Bengals will eventually come to terms with their star receiver as Green enters the final year of the four-year, $60 million extension he signed in September of 2015. After Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown were traded this offseason, though, it seems naive to rule out anything. If the Bengals don't think they're a Super Bowl team with their current core -- and it's hard to argue that they are -- this would be a chance to reshape their roster with one trade. This trade only makes sense if Kyler Murray is still on the board at No. 3, which would position the Bengals to come away with their quarterback of the future to develop under new Bengals coach Zac Taylor. Losing Green would obviously cost Murray his would-be top receiver, but the Bengals would still have a young wideout core with both a track record of production and future upside in Anderson and Tyler Boyd, both of whom are 25 or younger. They would also get an inside linebacker in Lee, a former first-round pick who doesn't have a spot in the Jets' starting lineup after the C.J. Mosley signing but showed promise last season. Vic Beasley is on the downside, or he would have been extended. I have been a proponent of this trade for months now. I dont want to drop any further and Green is a beast. Big red zone threat, great route runner, tough to take down. Dalton is the only reason he is a notch below AB, OBJ, Hopkins and Julio. Trade for him, extend him and you have great skill position guys around Darnold. Anderson & Lee are gone after this year anyway. Might be able to get the tackle out of Alabama at 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: You are taking a flyer on him, but getting an extra 3rd AND a first next year to move down 11 spots Bengals one is interesting, but also might need a BIT more from them since they are getting two 'starters'. I would want next yrs 1 or 2 in the Bengals deal, since Green is no guarantee to sign an extension. Rebuilding year for them, in a stacked division, so they probably expecting to draft in top 5-10, which makes next yrs 2 acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Untouchable said: Giants get: #3 overall Jets get: #6 and #17 overall That’s the only trade I’m interested in. Otherwise, stick and pick Bosa/Allen. That has as much of a chance at happening as Woody's daughter rising from the grave to play left tackle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I might....that's an early 2nd and could still land a Center there. Probably missing out on Bradbury but could have a choice between Jenkins and McCoy.....plus that early 3rd you mentioned. The more I think about it the more I like it. Edge - Montez Sweat, C - Elgton Jenkins + 3 Picks in Round 3 would be a very, very nice opportunity to improve this team. CB, WR, OT in that 3rd would appear to be a home run type of Draft (on paper). I definitely think we're going to trade down but my expectations are that whatever we receive in return may be a little underwhelming because of the lack of Elite quarterbacks in this draft. However I really don't see any defensive player at 3 we can take that's better than having high picks. Smart move is to trade down and take the best we can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, JiF said: That's true...pretty good value when you include next years 1st. Dont like the AJ Green trade scenario, not enough value in return for 2 starters. Also dont love the idea of trading Anderson a young WR coming into his prime for an older WR that is having a hard time staying healthy. Anderson is a headache. If the team thought anything of him, they would have extended him. Enunwa & Crowder are the future, with a stud # 1. Can get Green to fill that spot, or roll the dice in next year's draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, GREENBEAN said: I wouldn't do the Bengals one. I like Anderson and would rather just pick a #1 WR next year in the draft. AJ Green's contract is gonna be tough to add to all of the others. We need to have a less expensive tier of of quality players. Can't have all big name expensive guys. The Falcons trade is interesting, but still slim. Beasley is not very good. Potential is still there I suppose, but I don't like him very much. Their 1st, 2nd, beasley and next years first would be better. According to spotrac, Jets are still 30mill under the cap. Ditching Lee & Anderson gives em another $6mill this year. Next year they have $43 mill in cap space, w/ no one they need to resign, especially not Leonard Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, DirtyJersey said: Anderson is a headache. If the team thought anything of him, they would have extended him. Enunwa & Crowder are the future, with a stud # 1. Can get Green to fill that spot, or roll the dice in next year's draft. Describe to me the headaches that Anderson has created for the New York Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: I’d do it for the 2020 first rounder so the new GM can start Rebuild 7b Jets would probably Fire Macc and hire his wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Some of those trade ideas are right up there with the 2005 trade for Doug Jolley. Our first for him, plus the Raiders 2nd netting us Mike Nugent and Justin Miller ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: 11. Cincinnati Bengals Bengals get: WR Robby Anderson, ILB Darron Lee, 1-3 Jets get: WR A.J. Green, 1-11, 4-110 I'd like to believe the Bengals will eventually come to terms with their star receiver as Green enters the final year of the four-year, $60 million extension he signed in September of 2015. After Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown were traded this offseason, though, it seems naive to rule out anything. If the Bengals don't think they're a Super Bowl team with their current core -- and it's hard to argue that they are -- this would be a chance to reshape their roster with one trade. This trade only makes sense if Kyler Murray is still on the board at No. 3, which would position the Bengals to come away with their quarterback of the future to develop under new Bengals coach Zac Taylor. Losing Green would obviously cost Murray his would-be top receiver, but the Bengals would still have a young wideout core with both a track record of production and future upside in Anderson and Tyler Boyd, both of whom are 25 or younger. They would also get an inside linebacker in Lee, a former first-round pick who doesn't have a spot in the Jets' starting lineup after the C.J. Mosley signing but showed promise last season. Lol no way in hell im doing this. AJ Green in a contract year for 2 players on rookie deals 1 of with is a productive WR, and then the #3 pick for #11?! You must be outta your damn mind lol. I’d want AJ #11,next years 1 and a 2 this year to move down to 11 and I’d add one of our 3rds this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Both of these trades are ass. Beasley sucks and AJ Green is 45 and always hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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