T0mShane Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mike135 said: A judge has stepped in... https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-prosecutors-set-release-police-surveillance-video-patriots/story?id=62461763 "I don’t want this released until I’ve ruled," Florida Circuit Court Judge Joseph Marx said in an emergency hearing on a conference call with the two parties and the media late Wednesday afternoon. Ahhhhhh to be rich and commit felonies in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Ahhhhhh to be rich and commit felonies in Florida Would it be better if governmental entities had the ability to simultaneously commit an arguable constitutional violation and render moot any challenge to the action taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Would it be better if governmental entities had the ability to simultaneously commit an arguable constitutional violation and render moot any challenge to the action taken? Anyone associated with the Pat's dont get no constitutional rights cause they've been mean and stuff &inb4 shame backs down but points out that a POC wouldnt be granted such privilege in hopes of regaining your approval and saving face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Judge blocks release of Robert Kraft spa video By Ruth Brown April 17, 2019 | 4:30pm | Updated Enlarge Image Robert KraftGetty Images A judge on Wednesday blocked prosecutors from releasing footage of Robert Kraft allegedly receiving sexual services in a Florida spa — for now. “I don’t want this released until I’ve ruled,” Florida Circuit Court Judge Joseph Marx said in an emergency hearing Wednesday, according to ABC News. The New England Patriots owner has been fighting in court to stop the secret footage recorded at the Orchids of Asia Spa getting out — but prosecutors unexpectedly filed papers earlier Wednesday saying they were legally obligated to release the footage in response to public records requests in the case of alleged spa manager Lei Wang. Kraft’s attorneys responded with an emergency motion to stop the release, and the judge obliged — pushing the decision down the road to a hearing on April 29. Kraft, 77, was busted earlier this year alongside two dozen other men for allegedly soliciting prostitution at Orchids of Asia after cops installed secret cameras inside the business. He has pleaded not guilty. His attorneys argued at a hearing last week that the footage is “basically pornography” — and its release would breach his right to privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Kraft gone wild! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 In all seriousness who really gives a flying rat's ass? Big deal so an old man went and got a rub and tug? This has absolutely nothing to do with football. The unfortunate thing is that with his millions, he can hire about 5 hookers 24/7 all day long. And this absolutely does not make him involved in human trafficking! As much as I hate the Patriots I'm not going to put that on this guy. That's like saying if you go to a pizza place and there's a 13 year old kid starting sauce in the kitchen you're in violation of the child labor laws for eating a slice of f****** Pizza!!?? Unless it's proven that this guy requested underage girls, he has done absolutely nothing wrong in my eyesThen get your eyes checked. Regular guys get arrested for this stuff every day. Prostitution is illegal and should be. Very few women are into prostitution for the great benefit package. It’s because they need money in a desperate way. It’s almost never a good scene and whether it’s human trafficking or not, there is usually exploitation involved I’ve treated hundreds of girls who have prostituted themselves in one form or another. they have traumatic nightmares and are a mess for years following. The only reason this conversation is warranted on a jets message board is because it adds one more layer to the absolute scumbaggary that is the New England Patriots organization. It’s top down in that place. And the vids are an attempt to counteract his money. Don’t worry your tender heart. we will watch one of the richest men in America buy his way out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Disgusting, amoral pig gets away with buying his way out of his sordid and trashy life. Not surprising, considering the company he keeps....buying porn stars and thinking they can just grab and grope any female they please, and brag about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Would it be better if governmental entities had the ability to simultaneously commit an arguable constitutional violation and render moot any challenge to the action taken? Keep voting blue, and soon enough dreams like this can and will come true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: Disgusting, amoral pig gets away with buying his way out of his sordid and trashy life. Not surprising, considering the company he keeps....buying porn stars and thinking they can just grab and grope any female they please, and brag about it! Jets fans protesteth too much. If this were happening to anybody who is old and white and male and fat and well-off and without any connection to the Patriots, it would be like Attica up in this mother****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Would it be better if governmental entities had the ability to simultaneously commit an arguable constitutional violation and render moot any challenge to the action taken? 16 minutes ago, CTM said: Anyone associated with the Pat's dont get no constitutional rights cause they've been mean and stuff &inb4 shame backs down but points out that a POC wouldnt be granted such privilege in hopes of regaining your approval and saving face I’m just upset that my personal entertainment is being compromised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: I’m just upset that my personal entertainment is being compromised Is it true you are anxiously awaiting the auction to take place of all the contents of the massage parlor, heard you are interested in the table and towels used by Bob Kraft. @T0mShane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m just upset that my personal entertainment is being compromised Just watch some Ron Jeremy porn tonight and think of a young Bob Kraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I couldn’t care less if it was the neighbor across the street or Kraft, both would be pigs equally. I don’t have any of this rival or opponent hate in the NFL, so my stance is strictly about the acts, not because of who they are. Revolting men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: The fix is in. Tape never comes out now. Good. It shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Then get your eyes checked. Regular guys get arrested for this stuff every day. Prostitution is illegal and should be. Very few women are into prostitution for the great benefit package. It’s because they need money in a desperate way. It’s almost never a good scene and whether it’s human trafficking or not, there is usually exploitation involved I’ve treated hundreds of girls who have prostituted themselves in one form or another. they have traumatic nightmares and are a mess for years following. The only reason this conversation is warranted on a jets message board is because it adds one more layer to the absolute scumbaggary that is the New England Patriots organization. It’s top down in that place. And the vids are an attempt to counteract his money. Don’t worry your tender heart. we will watch one of the richest men in America buy his way out of this. What ever happened to "My body, my choice"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: I couldn’t care less if it was the neighbor across the street or Kraft, both would be pigs equally. I don’t have any of this rival or opponent hate in the NFL, so my stance is strictly about the acts, not because of who they are. Revolting men. What about the women who voluntarily do this (in exchange for money, of course)? Where is your comment about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Keep voting blue, and soon enough dreams like this can and will come true.... Red/Blue - it makes no difference. We're already way past that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: Disgusting, amoral pig gets away with buying his way out of his sordid and trashy life. Not surprising, considering the company he keeps....buying porn stars and thinking they can just grab and grope any female they please, and brag about it! As far as we know, absolutely none of what you wrote happened. There's no reason to think this wasn't consensual (sex exchanged for money between 2 consenting adults). The human trafficking thing seems to be a complete fabrication. That makes the whole thing even more ridiculous as it was the alleged reason the police were videotaping in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Weird because we know Kraft knows how to destroy evidence I'll hate myself but of course I'm gonna watch this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Really... prosecuting rub and tugs? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: What about the women who voluntarily do this (in exchange for money, of course)? Where is your comment about them? Aren’t they whores? They do what they’ve done since the beginning of time. Doesn’t mean their pimps and johns aren’t pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: As far as we know, absolutely none of what you wrote happened. There's no reason to think this wasn't consensual (sex exchanged for money between 2 consenting adults). The human trafficking thing seems to be a complete fabrication. That makes the whole thing even more ridiculous as it was the alleged reason the police were videotaping in the first place. Sounds like you’re justifying something you’ve done yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: Keep voting blue, and soon enough dreams like this can and will come true.... Or red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: Sounds like you’re justifying something you’ve done yourself. Such a girl reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, CTM said: Or red True dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Red/Blue - it makes no difference. We're already way past that point. Yeah, I'm pretty sure both red & blue have lots of supporters for no knock warrants, asset forfeiture etc etc etc, before any one party wants to go wrap themselves in the constitution etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82nd Airborne Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Not sure if it was posted, but DAMN! are legally obligated to release pixelated versions as soon as they’re ready unless a judge steps in to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Red/Blue - it makes no difference. We're already way past that point. Yup yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Such a girl reaction. Guess I’ve been surrounded by proud, moral, upright men with the utmost respect for women, but most of all, themselves. My father would have voiced his disdain for another man who stooped so low. Not a male or female opinion, but one from any decent and moral individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindOverMatter Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said: Then get your eyes checked. Regular guys get arrested for this stuff every day. Prostitution is illegal and should be. Very few women are into prostitution for the great benefit package. It’s because they need money in a desperate way. It’s almost never a good scene and whether it’s human trafficking or not, there is usually exploitation involved I’ve treated hundreds of girls who have prostituted themselves in one form or another. they have traumatic nightmares and are a mess for years following. The only reason this conversation is warranted on a jets message board is because it adds one more layer to the absolute scumbaggary that is the New England Patriots organization. It’s top down in that place. And the vids are an attempt to counteract his money. Don’t worry your tender heart. we will watch one of the richest men in America buy his way out of this. If it was legal and regulated many of these horrible things would be much easier to be caught and handled. Human trafficking, underage girls, STD's, all these things are kept in check when there is a legal structure in place. I'm with you though, in most cases prostitution is horrible but it's not going anywhere, and Kraft will squirm his way out of this situation untouched (no pun intended ?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Holy hell, please stop with the veiled political references you bunch of filthy animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, jetstream23 said: "I'm innocent!" - Bob Kraft "Don't release those videos...they're basically porn showing my little schween being manipulated by human trafficking victims." - Also Bob Kraft I’m still trying to find out what he apologized for, after saying he did nothing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said: Guess I’ve been surrounded by proud, moral, upright men with the utmost respect for women, but most of all, themselves. My father would have voiced his disdain for another man who stooped so low. Not a male or female opinion, but one from any decent and moral individual. You accused Kraft of "buying porn stars and thinking they can just grab and grope any female they please, and brag about it!" I said "As far as we know, absolutely none of what you wrote happened". You interpreted that as "sounds like you're justifying what you did". That's 100% a girl reaction. It's the "you're not allowed to defend a male against things that I don't like (even if we have no reason to believe that he did them). You must be one of those guys too!!!" (knowing the white knights will be there to defend you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: You accused Kraft of "buying porn stars and thinking they can just grab and grope any female they please, and brag about it!" I said "As far as we know, absolutely none of what you wrote happened". You interpreted that as "sounds like you're justifying what you did". That's 100% a girl reaction. It's the "you're not allowed to defend a male against things that I don't like (even if we have no reason to believe that he did them). You must be one of those guys too!!!" (knowing the white knights will be there to defend you). Bullsh*t. I don’t need a white knight, my daddy taught me to never take crap from a man, and to speak my mind. That particular part pertained to his disgusting, billionaire trash friend”....hence my remark about “Tell me who your friends are, I’ll tell you who you are” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Holy hell, please stop with the veiled political references you bunch of filthy animals. I was waiting for this. One of the reasons I came here was because of the no bullsh*t politics rule. I just saw a bunch of not too subtle political digs. Stop it. I get this sh*t all day every day--I don't need it on my Jets board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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